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Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:13 pm
by jamcc
Moggy wrote:jamcc wrote:Sounds like he is guilty but this should never have gone to court in the first place.
Why?
If every similar instance of one line of racist 'abuse' ended up in court the country would fold in on it's knees. I'm not saying that nothing should be done, it just shouldn't require a 5-day court case.
blackoutHERO wrote:I don't get the 'please, please, please, please' thing
I think that makes you even thicker than JT. Congratulations.
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:48 pm
by BraithGwirod
jamcc wrote:If every similar instance of one line of racist 'abuse' ended up in court the country would fold in on it's knees. I'm not saying that nothing should be done, it just shouldn't require a 5-day court case.
But if it were glossed over, people would think that it's ok to make such remarks. Because it's high-profile, the right thing has to be done.
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:56 pm
by Mafro
It's just a bit of banter.
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:57 pm
by Tomous
TigaSefi wrote:Eighthours wrote:Terry's going to win this, I think. He's very obviously guilty and his excuse is laughable, but the Crown have done a terrible job of proving it.
I think they have deliberately done a bad job so Terry doesn't get sentenced.
Er why would they do that?
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:04 pm
by TigaSefi
See two post above you... The entire UK would be prisoned
ie. lots of "he said that, she said this" etc.....
also really the FA should have had balls in the first place and dished out the same treatment and procedure Suarez got.
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:05 pm
by jamcc
BraithGwirod wrote:jamcc wrote:If every similar instance of one line of racist 'abuse' ended up in court the country would fold in on it's knees. I'm not saying that nothing should be done, it just shouldn't require a 5-day court case.
But if it were glossed over, people would think that it's ok to make such remarks. Because it's high-profile, the right thing has to be done.
So you think it's okay to treat 'celebrities' one way and ordinary people another?
This should have been dealt with out of court. And, no, not with a handshake.
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:12 pm
by Return_of_the_STAR
Tomous wrote:TigaSefi wrote:Eighthours wrote:Terry's going to win this, I think. He's very obviously guilty and his excuse is laughable, but the Crown have done a terrible job of proving it.
I think they have deliberately done a bad job so Terry doesn't get sentenced.
Er why would they do that?
I didn't think he could get sentenced for this. I thought it was a maximum of £2,500 fine.
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:15 pm
by BraithGwirod
No, I don't. But I do think that letting accused racism slide in the public eye is not a good move. It shouldn't have come to this court case, but equally it shouldn't have been ignored. Terry should have accepted and apologised so the whole mess could move on, I think. But he hasn't, so here we are.
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:48 pm
by SpaceJebus
TigaSefi wrote:See two post above you... The entire UK would be prisoned
ie. lots of "he said that, she said this" etc.....
also really the FA should have had balls in the first place and dished out the same treatment and procedure Suarez got.
I think it has been said before but as soon as it became a police matter the FA were unable to do anything until the trial is over.
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:21 pm
by Wedgie
Cuban Pete wrote:They'll surely give him a big ban? Considering they took the England captaincy off him for shagging Wayne Bridge's girlfriend.
If he is found not guilty then the FA can't do anything as in the eyes of law, he is innocent.
Not sure what will happen if a "not proven" verdict is handed, if that is allowed in this type of case.
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:43 pm
by Tomous
Wedgie wrote:Cuban Pete wrote:They'll surely give him a big ban? Considering they took the England captaincy off him for shagging Wayne Bridge's girlfriend.
If he is found not guilty then the FA can't do anything as in the eyes of law, he is innocent.
Not sure what will happen if a "not proven" verdict is handed, if that is allowed in this type of case.
Isn't not proven a Scotland only thing?
The FA could still surely charge them under their rules whatever the law has said, but they'll use it as opportunity to not do anything if he's found not guilty in my opinion
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:06 am
by Wedgie
Ah yes it is, my bad.
But if not guilty is the case, FA wouldn't do anything even if they think he is guilty of it as they allowed him to go to the euros.
I don't understand why it wasn't held before the euros as its only a five day court proceeds.
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:11 am
by Moggy
If he is found not guilty, the FA will do nothing. And rightly so.
If he is found guilty, I hope for a lengthy ban. And rightly so.
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:34 am
by Monkey Man
BBC Sport's Richard Conway at Westminster Magistrates' court: "While the trial is drawing to a close, Terry does have the right to appeal to Crown Court if he is found guilty.
"An FA disciplinary investigation into the alleged racist incident at Loftus Road last October will likely continue, regardless of what verdict is delivered today, after being put on hold for 10 months due to the police and court process."
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:33 am
by blackoutHERO
jamcc wrote:blackoutHERO wrote:I don't get the 'please, please, please, please' thing
I think that makes you even thicker than JT. Congratulations.
Are ya?
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:28 pm
by Tomous
Wedgie wrote:Ah yes it is, my bad.
But if not guilty is the case, FA wouldn't do anything even if they think he is guilty of it as they allowed him to go to the euros.
I don't understand why it wasn't held before the euros as its only a five day court proceeds.
I guess they would have followed procedures on how trial dates are booked. The Euros would have been of no concern to them
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:24 pm
by evanswolves
Terry cleared, not guilty
Re: The John Terry trial thread - verdict due 2pm on Friday
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:24 pm
by Skippy
Not guilty, of course!
Re: The John Terry trial thread - Not Guilty
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:25 pm
by St Nick
Tezza.
Re: The John Terry trial thread - Not Guilty
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:28 pm
by TigaSefi
whey hey... lots of "get that strawberry floating ***** ****" in the sunday/children leagues