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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by Squinty » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:48 am

Steamworld Heist. I didn't like the procedurally generated maps. They dragged the game down considerably. I can't see me going back to it. It's a shame as I loved Steamworld Dig.

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PostRe: RE: Re: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by Blue Canary » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:00 am

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Blue Canary wrote:Cuphead. I got past the first island, then I tried to take on the food themed one and went "Bugger this".

It's a beautiful game and I love everything about the music and aesthetic, but bloody hell did I find it hard.
Did you play this on the easiest level? If so, you need to do it all on the harder level if you want to do the finale after island 3. Didn't find this out until I'd completed island 3 and have since been playing through the bosses at the harder level in the hope of one day completing it. Just finished all of the bosses on island 2. Island 3 is up next when I can muster the strength to continue.


I played on the harder difficulty because I heard about that before starting the game and thought I'd rather not have to backtrack through all the bosses. Then I gave up.

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by Jamo3103 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:13 am

Behold the Kickmen

Thought this might be a fun alternative football game, the pitch of it as a football game by somebody that didn't particularly like or understand football sounded interesting and gameplay wise it looked a little bit like Sensible Soccer meets Mario Football. After about an hour and a half of play though I've given up on it, at times it's fairly fun but the mechanics are really hit and miss, when they work it plays okay but often they're quite broken which makes it a really frustrating experience. Silly rules are then added to it which, when combined with the poor AI, often make the game feel totally unfair.

The 'comedy' aspect of the game is pretty dreadful too, primary school esque humour poking fun at football with phrases like 'you did a goal' popping up all over the place, there is the occasional decent parody of football culture hidden away but all that does is highlight what a missed opportunity the script is as a whole.

I only paid about £2 for this and considering that I've had a reasonable amount of play out of it but I still wish I hadn't bothered!

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by Trelliz » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:43 am

Squinty wrote:Steamworld Heist. I didn't like the procedurally generated maps. They dragged the game down considerably. I can't see me going back to it. It's a shame as I loved Steamworld Dig.


Out of interest, how did the maps make it worse for you? I'm playing through it at the moment and yes, they can be a bit samey but not enough to turn me off it compared to some of the other stuff i've given up on.

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by Blue Canary » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:03 pm

Jamo3103 wrote:Behold the Kickmen

Thought this might be a fun alternative football game, the pitch of it as a football game by somebody that didn't particularly like or understand football sounded interesting and gameplay wise it looked a little bit like Sensible Soccer meets Mario Football. After about an hour and a half of play though I've given up on it, at times it's fairly fun but the mechanics are really hit and miss, when they work it plays okay but often they're quite broken which makes it a really frustrating experience. Silly rules are then added to it which, when combined with the poor AI, often make the game feel totally unfair.

The 'comedy' aspect of the game is pretty dreadful too, primary school esque humour poking fun at football with phrases like 'you did a goal' popping up all over the place, there is the occasional decent parody of football culture hidden away but all that does is highlight what a missed opportunity the script is as a whole.

I only paid about £2 for this and considering that I've had a reasonable amount of play out of it but I still wish I hadn't bothered!


I read an article on it ages ago and I was hoping it would be good. From what i've heard so far however I shan't bother.

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by Squinty » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:16 pm

Trelliz wrote:
Squinty wrote:Steamworld Heist. I didn't like the procedurally generated maps. They dragged the game down considerably. I can't see me going back to it. It's a shame as I loved Steamworld Dig.


Out of interest, how did the maps make it worse for you? I'm playing through it at the moment and yes, they can be a bit samey but not enough to turn me off it compared to some of the other stuff i've given up on.


It seems to randomly generate cover points for your bots. Sometimes, it just doesn't generate enough cover for the 3 or 4 robots you are using. I had two or three missions go really badly because of this, played through them again they were piss easy. It really annoyed me.

I would have preferred the levels to be designed from the ground up.

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by OrangeRKN » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:04 pm

I do think Steamworld Heist would be better with fully designed maps, but I think it does a good job of them (they are clearly tweaked every level to heavily favour particular layouts, so they are mostly designed).

As you say cover placement can seem the most randomised, but I probably only had myself stuck without cover once or twice in the game. Lack of cover can be worked around though if you play aggressively, which I found the game encourages.

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by Jamo3103 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:07 pm

Blue Canary wrote:
Jamo3103 wrote:Behold the Kickmen

Thought this might be a fun alternative football game, the pitch of it as a football game by somebody that didn't particularly like or understand football sounded interesting and gameplay wise it looked a little bit like Sensible Soccer meets Mario Football. After about an hour and a half of play though I've given up on it, at times it's fairly fun but the mechanics are really hit and miss, when they work it plays okay but often they're quite broken which makes it a really frustrating experience. Silly rules are then added to it which, when combined with the poor AI, often make the game feel totally unfair.

The 'comedy' aspect of the game is pretty dreadful too, primary school esque humour poking fun at football with phrases like 'you did a goal' popping up all over the place, there is the occasional decent parody of football culture hidden away but all that does is highlight what a missed opportunity the script is as a whole.

I only paid about £2 for this and considering that I've had a reasonable amount of play out of it but I still wish I hadn't bothered!


I read an article on it ages ago and I was hoping it would be good. From what i've heard so far however I shan't bother.


Yeah, I had really high hopes for it but just ended up frustrated and disappointed, the most frustrating thing is that there's definitely a decent game under there waiting to be let out!

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by danbish » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:47 pm

Double Dragon 4 - because it was horse sh**e. I love the old school DD games and I didn't want to believe that this was as bad as I'd heard, so I bought it on faith and nostalgia.

My God, what a mistake to make. Very quickly I realised what I;d done and it then dawned on me that Nintendo don't do digital returns. Money gone forever and couldn't be deleted off my Switch quick enough.

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by Gemini73 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:52 am

Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition (PS4) - Mightly impressive at first, but then I suddenly found myself becoming increasingly bored by it all. Gameplay wise HZD doesn't really do anything to make it stand out from the crowd. It's not bad by any stretch, just a bit 'flat'.

While I may have picked up the complete edition I never got as far as the DLC. :lol:

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by Manwell Pablo » Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:21 pm

Not sure if it counts but The Last Guardian has been in the library for well over a year without being played, I intend to complete it - but can't bring myself to put the disc in the drive....

Aliens Colonial Marines sticks in the mind of actually being so physically bad I couldn't carry on with it, probably the worst game I've bought on release, Omerta City of gangsters l I just could not get on with at all. It's not something that happens very often though I normally plan my purchases quite well (Aliens a glaring exception).

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by The Watching Artist » Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:32 pm

TheChosenOne wrote:Pikmin was the first. The mechanics were fun, but I just kept messing up a day, redoing it, and then messing up again until I got frustrated and gave up. Tried it again a few years later and got the same result, accepted it wasn't for me.

You should give 2 and 3 a go. They are far more forgiving when it comes to this. Especially 2.

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by TheChosenOne » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:05 pm

I'd definitely be up to giving Pikmin 2 and 3 a go as the core gameplay was still fun. If I see 2 in CEX I'll probably get it. Might even be able to go back to 1 if I get better at the game.

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by Cumberdanes » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:12 pm

TheChosenOne wrote:There are only 2 games I can think I've given up on.

Pikmin was the first. The mechanics were fun, but I just kept messing up a day, redoing it, and then messing up again until I got frustrated and gave up. Tried it again a few years later and got the same result, accepted it wasn't for me.


I had similar issues with Pikmin too. I started out really enjoying it but it just got way too hard for me. I had the same problem with Little King's Story which I really wanted to like but relatively early on; maybe a boss or two in the difficulty just got silly and I lost interest.

EDIT: Now I think about it I didn't get on with Overlord either... I guess this style of game just isn't for me.

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by Trelliz » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:26 pm

Squinty wrote:Steamworld Heist. I didn't like the procedurally generated maps. They dragged the game down considerably. I can't see me going back to it. It's a shame as I loved Steamworld Dig.


Time for me to join the club - got to the fight with the queen, put it on the easiest difficulty to just get through it. I got her down to 1HP and then everyone got pinned and killed.


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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by ignition » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:01 pm

Metal Gear Solid Rising: Revengeance

Hot off the heels of finally playing and finishing MGS4 I thought I'd give this a whirl as I had got it free on PS+ years ago.

I knew it was a totally different type of game, and actually quite enjoyed the prologue and first level, but very quickly it became tedious and I just asked myself why am I even bothering.

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by OrangeRKN » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:17 pm

ignition wrote:Metal Gear Solid Rising: Revengeance

Hot off the heels of finally playing and finishing MGS4 I thought I'd give this a whirl as I had got it free on PS+ years ago.

I knew it was a totally different type of game, and actually quite enjoyed the prologue and first level, but very quickly it became tedious and I just asked myself why am I even bothering.


Play it for the codec calls

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by FudgeDiver » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:22 pm

Revengeance is unironically better than everything released after Snake Eater though

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by Cumberdanes » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:34 pm

I really enjoyed Revengeance although I did get a little tired of the brutal violence toward the end particularly during the final boss fight and after MGS4 I really didn’t like the direction they took Raiden in.

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by OrangeRKN » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:46 pm

FudgeDiver wrote:Revengeance is unironically better than everything released after Snake Eater though


Difficult to compare cross-genres, and Snake Eater is the best MGS game, but I would comfortanly put MGS4/Ground Zeroes/V/Peace Walker all above revengeance

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