The last game you gave up on and your reasons + some gooseberry fool about MGS

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by TheChosenOne » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:05 pm

I'd definitely be up to giving Pikmin 2 and 3 a go as the core gameplay was still fun. If I see 2 in CEX I'll probably get it. Might even be able to go back to 1 if I get better at the game.

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by IAmTheSaladMan » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:12 pm

TheChosenOne wrote:There are only 2 games I can think I've given up on.

Pikmin was the first. The mechanics were fun, but I just kept messing up a day, redoing it, and then messing up again until I got frustrated and gave up. Tried it again a few years later and got the same result, accepted it wasn't for me.


I had similar issues with Pikmin too. I started out really enjoying it but it just got way too hard for me. I had the same problem with Little King's Story which I really wanted to like but relatively early on; maybe a boss or two in the difficulty just got silly and I lost interest.

EDIT: Now I think about it I didn't get on with Overlord either... I guess this style of game just isn't for me.

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by Trelliz » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:26 pm

Squinty wrote:Steamworld Heist. I didn't like the procedurally generated maps. They dragged the game down considerably. I can't see me going back to it. It's a shame as I loved Steamworld Dig.


Time for me to join the club - got to the fight with the queen, put it on the easiest difficulty to just get through it. I got her down to 1HP and then everyone got pinned and killed.


Tragic Magic wrote:It's so pink when he bangs it on teh floor. Pi mm p boy pink.

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by ignition » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:01 pm

Metal Gear Solid Rising: Revengeance

Hot off the heels of finally playing and finishing MGS4 I thought I'd give this a whirl as I had got it free on PS+ years ago.

I knew it was a totally different type of game, and actually quite enjoyed the prologue and first level, but very quickly it became tedious and I just asked myself why am I even bothering.

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by OrangeRakoon » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:17 pm

ignition wrote:Metal Gear Solid Rising: Revengeance

Hot off the heels of finally playing and finishing MGS4 I thought I'd give this a whirl as I had got it free on PS+ years ago.

I knew it was a totally different type of game, and actually quite enjoyed the prologue and first level, but very quickly it became tedious and I just asked myself why am I even bothering.


Play it for the codec calls

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by FudgeDiver » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:22 pm

Revengeance is unironically better than everything released after Snake Eater though

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by IAmTheSaladMan » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:34 pm

I really enjoyed Revengeance although I did get a little tired of the brutal violence toward the end particularly during the final boss fight and after MGS4 I really didn’t like the direction they took Raiden in.

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by OrangeRakoon » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:46 pm

FudgeDiver wrote:Revengeance is unironically better than everything released after Snake Eater though


Difficult to compare cross-genres, and Snake Eater is the best MGS game, but I would comfortanly put MGS4/Ground Zeroes/V/Peace Walker all above revengeance

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by FudgeDiver » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:53 pm

Revengeance captures the metal gear spirit much more than those games.

4 literally is only saved by Ocelot

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by OrangeRakoon » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:58 pm

4 is peak MGS, it opens with you changing between live-action in universe TV channels and only gets stranger from there. Revengeance has some great stuff in it but it owes a lot of itself to MGS4 if you ask me

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by garfield.0 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:04 am

revengeance was great but I didn't rate the dlc

the robot dog did not deliver on its promise

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by FudgeDiver » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:05 am

In terms of being a sequel, it does, yes.

But it also fills the villain quota much more rigidly and memorably than 4, which is 60% of MGS outside of 2, which is memorable for something only it can uniquely perform. 4 also loses points for trying to explain MGS2. Vamp being explained as 'lol nanomachines' is a strawberry floating sin

No-one remembers anything about Beauty and the Beast corps, but every member of Desperado is great, even Khamsin

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by OrangeRakoon » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:12 am

FudgeDiver wrote:In terms of being a sequel, it does, yes.

But it also fills the villain quota much more rigidly and memorably than 4, which is 60% of MGS outside of 2, which is memorable for something only it can uniquely perform. 4 also loses points for trying to explain MGS2. Vamp being explained as 'lol nanomachines' is a strawberry floating sin

No-one remembers anything about Beauty and the Beast corps, but every member of Desperado is great, even Khamsin


I see constant retconning and flip-flopping between science explanations or the paranormal as vital to the MGS brand. And that vamp/raiden split-screen fight in 4 was ballin'.

You're right about the Beauty and the Beast corps, but then MGS4 also had the metal gear mech fight and the ocelot fist fight.

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by FudgeDiver » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:39 am

MGS4's finale is rightfully the highpoint of the franchise, it's just the rest of the game that's meh

Whilst there was always the paranormal in MGS, MGS2 as a game thrives on the 'is this actually happening' on several levels. Fortune being fairly normal (with a bit of mysticism thrown in at the end) and Vamp both being crazy supernatural helps with this, as a form of escalation from Foxhound to Dead Cell. Vamp should have just been packed away and left as a mystery, if they wanted the events of 2 to have actually happened for MGS4

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by OrangeRakoon » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:42 am

I'm still not sure if Ocelot was actually possessed by Liquid or if he just conditioned himself to think he was.

I'm pretty sure the canon explanation is that both actually happened

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by FudgeDiver » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:34 pm

At least, that one wasn't as much of a copout as it was left ambiguous what actually happened

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by Vermilion » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:15 pm

FudgeDiver wrote:MGS4's finale is rightfully the highpoint of the franchise


I didn't think it was ever going to end.

The biggest problem i've always had with Metal Gear Solid, was that while the gameplay was sound, the plot was bollocks.

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by Squinty » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:32 pm

RULES OF NATURE!!!!!!!!

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by FudgeDiver » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:04 pm

Vermilion wrote:the plot was bollocks.


Literally only 4 and 5 is that and for different reasons

4 because it tries to piece together the deliberate lunacy of MGS2

and 5 because there is no plot


also stealing orphans brains to make soldier robots is a great villain motive

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PostRe: The last game you gave up on and your reasons
by Minoru » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:32 pm

I gave up on Danganronpa. It seemed in theory like the kind of game I'd like and I kept hearing good things, but all of the characters were really boring stereotype/cliches with no interesting features. I don't know if they get more interesting later on, but it was enough to put me off by the time I finished the first trial and I haven’t felt inclined to go back.

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