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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:26 pm
by kuliand
Finally got a ancient core drop from a guardian last night! Just need a few more ancient gears now which I think are best collected by cutting their legs off but I usually end up dying whilst trying that. Still the tide is starting to turn on me vs the guardians.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:13 pm
by Green Gecko
You occasionally find some from the dead guardians. There's a massive graveyard of them in front of fort whatever it's called and akillablah fields.
You can also buy them from some guy wandering around.. sorry that's not much help
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:20 pm
by Jenuall
I think the Guardians are only really much trouble if they attack in numbers or whilst you are busy trying to deal with other enemies at the same time.
My approach:
I do enjoy the satisfying way they explode on defeat as well - a nice shower of gears and cogs!
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:22 pm
by Green Gecko
You also get less stuff if you use ancient arrows. I'm pretty sure they drop a lot more screw, cogs and gears if you take out their legs, giving you enough parts to stock up on ancient arrows for when you need them.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:50 pm
by CuriousOyster
Green Gecko wrote:You also get less stuff if you use ancient arrows. I'm pretty sure they drop a lot more screw, cogs and gears if you take out their legs, giving you enough parts to stock up on ancient arrows for when you need them.
Think you get less stuff for taking more than one shot. One shotting their eye with ancient arrow gives you loads of drops, even one ancient core and giant core in same drop.
I gambled and bought abput 14 ancient arrows, one shotted about 14 guardians just outside Hyrule Castle and had enough for complete Ancient Gear.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:58 pm
by Jenuall
Green Gecko wrote:You also get less stuff if you use ancient arrows. I'm pretty sure they drop a lot more screw, cogs and gears if you take out their legs, giving you enough parts to stock up on ancient arrows for when you need them.
I've not tested this extensively but you certainly get a "minor" item like a screw or cog for each leg you remove - whether those are additional to the total the "body" drops or whether they get removed from that amount would be interesting to compare.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:58 pm
by Green Gecko
CuriousOyster wrote:Green Gecko wrote:You also get less stuff if you use ancient arrows. I'm pretty sure they drop a lot more screw, cogs and gears if you take out their legs, giving you enough parts to stock up on ancient arrows for when you need them.
Think you get less stuff for taking more than one shot. One shotting their eye with ancient arrow gives you loads of drops, even one ancient core and giant core in same drop.
I gambled and bought abput 14 ancient arrows, one shotted about 14 guardians just outside Hyrule Castle and had enough for complete Ancient Gear.
Sounds good, maybe they consider it a skillshot then, I thought it was punitive versus hacking them up. I at least find the latter more fun. It might just be a placebo seeing each part smash up and picking up bits as you fight versus hammering the button from the pile of ashes.
ancient arrows are great when you have low defence though.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:32 am
by Skarjo
Are there a finite number of Guardians in the game? I've just realised that I spent most of my time spaffing the screws and gears etc away for money and only held on to the cores because they seemed important. I doubt I've killed enough to worry about there not being enough left to farm for ancient gear, but I just wonder whether there's only a certain amount available.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:38 am
by That
Skarjo wrote:Are there a finite number of Guardians in the game? I've just realised that I spent most of my time spaffing the screws and gears etc away for money and only held on to the cores because they seemed important. I doubt I've killed enough to worry about there not being enough left to farm for ancient gear, but I just wonder whether there's only a certain amount available.
Nah, they respawn with blood moons like anything else.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:47 am
by Green Gecko
I'm not 100% sure, I think some of the ruined ones deplete, or are replaced and you can never remember which ones you destroyed anyway. Ruined guardians get randomly activated (for example by thunder) and all the walking ones re-spawn. I've defeated static guardians in Hyrule town, wandered off and then had an apparently different one in a similar place. I've gone to the same Guardian "graveyards" and had different ones wake up and catch me by surprise.
The theory is the ones lit up blue aren't possessed and are there as a test for Link, and so they just come from... places. It's the red/purple ones that are controlled by Calamity Ganon.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:25 am
by OrangeRKN
Green Gecko wrote:Ruined guardians get randomly activated (for example by thunder).
This game continues to reveal new secrets to me
Anyway, best tactic is clearly
stasis+ to get close, then stun lock them as you hack through the legs with
the master sword at two hits per leg. Once you're through the legs you either finish them right away or have
stasis+ recharged
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:34 am
by KjGarly
Guardian weapons are also great for hacking their legs off.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:11 pm
by Skarjo
OrangeRakoon wrote:Green Gecko wrote:Ruined guardians get randomly activated (for example by thunder).
This game continues to reveal new secrets to me
Anyway, best tactic is clearly
stasis+ to get close, then stun lock them as you hack through the legs with
the master sword at two hits per leg. Once you're through the legs you either finish them right away or have
stasis+ recharged
I literally never think to use anything besides bombs outside of shrines.
I don't think I've ever used stasis in the overworld. Magnesis a few times, maybe.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:16 pm
by OrangeRKN
Stasis is probably the most OP of all the powers. Sure you can cheese enemies with bombs, but stasis is super effective against lynels and guardians - so the hardest enemies you'll come across.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:38 pm
by That
OrangeRakoon wrote:Stasis is probably the most OP of all the powers. Sure you can cheese enemies with bombs, but stasis is super effective against lynels and guardians - so the hardest enemies you'll come across.
Why didn't Gandalf just cast Stasis+ on Sauron?
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:52 pm
by OrangeRKN
The rito are sapient, they would have been corrupted and taken the master sword for themselves you total strawberry floating idiot. I hate you.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:52 pm
by Skarjo
OrangeRakoon wrote:Stasis is probably the most OP of all the powers. Sure you can cheese enemies with bombs, but stasis is super effective against lynels and guardians - so the hardest enemies you'll come across.
I mastered the flurry dodge for
nothing.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:35 pm
by Jenuall
Stasis is really useful but I generally find it's just more fun taking them on with more conventional means!
I went through a bomb spamming phase where I was using them on pretty much everything but I quickly realised that this wasn't the most enjoyable approach. That's one of the things I like about the weapon degredation system and how quickly things break - it forces you to mix up your tactics.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:35 pm
by Victor Mildew
Karl wrote:OrangeRakoon wrote:Stasis is probably the most OP of all the powers. Sure you can cheese enemies with bombs, but stasis is super effective against lynels and guardians - so the hardest enemies you'll come across.
Why didn't Gandalf just cast Stasis+ on Sauron?
Ancient plot armour
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:32 am
by OrangeRKN
Jenuall wrote:Stasis is really useful but I generally find it's just more fun taking them on with more conventional means!
I went through a bomb spamming phase where I was using them on pretty much everything but I quickly realised that this wasn't the most enjoyable approach.
This is true, I did the same thing with bombs and actively choosing not to use them (although I still fell back on them quite a bit).