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PostRe: The Literature Thread
by Tragic Magic » Sun May 27, 2018 11:25 pm

Anyone have any Yakuza fiction they would recommend? I'm really in the mood for something like that but I've never heard of any good examples. Reading the final Witcher book at the minute so it would be good to read something completely different.

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by Errkal » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:54 pm

Managed to finally break my compulsion to complete sets and break out of reading all Stephen King books, have wanted to for a while so I can be free to read whatever as I have had short list of other stuff I wanted to read and have finally done it.

So today I start book 1 of The Expanse. I loved the show so I figure the books will be epic.

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PostRe: The Literature Thread
by abcd » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:32 pm

I did not like the book.

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by Errkal » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:41 pm

abcd wrote:I did not like the book.


:lol: thats a good start then aye.... Fingers crossed I do, but if it sucks I'll not bother with the subsequent books. Planning on reading the Altered Carbon books after this.

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PostRe: The Literature Thread
by Tafdolphin » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:47 pm

I found the books as follows:

1: Good.
2: Dull, largely filler.
3: Good.
4: Utter rubbish, a waste of a book.
5: Great, with a genuinely shocking conclusion.
6: Good.
7: V good.

Seriously, the ending of 5 is...so good.

Altered Carbon is a good one too, much better than the series.

In a similar vein, almost done with Neil Stephenson's Snow Crash.

It's great.

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PostRe: Currently Reading/Last Book Read
by Rubix » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:41 pm

Reading one of the Witcher books (in my sig) not sure what to make of it. Strange being short stories but ill see how the others pan out.

Quite enjoyed Harry Potter and the cursed child. Not the usual but an enjoyable read none the less. Think she could easily make more books

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by <]:^D » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:48 pm

impressive bump!

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by Rubix » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:04 pm

<]:^D wrote:impressive bump!


Wasnt a need to create a new topic

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PostRe: Currently Reading/Last Book Read
by Johnny Ryall » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:41 pm

Matt Haig's Notes on a Nervous Planet

Really recommend for anyone with anxiety or depression or who just feels a bit gooseberry fool.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/ ... aig-review

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PostRe: Currently Reading/Last Book Read
by Jenuall » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:46 pm

Didn't we have a currently active literature thread knocking about?

Either way I'm reading The Cyclist Who Went Out In The Cold by Tim Moore at the moment and have been really enjoying it! I've been meaning to read some of his stuff for a while and I'm glad I finally took the plunge.

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PostRe: The Literature Thread
by Karl » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:27 pm

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PostRe: Currently Reading/Last Book Read
by SugarDave » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:30 pm

Rubix wrote:Reading one of the Witcher books (in my sig) not sure what to make of it. Strange being short stories but ill see how the others pan out.


Did you read The Last Wish beforehand? I really enjoyed the Witcher novels and I'm looking forward to reading them again before I replay the games some day.

I've been trying to get into the routine of reading more frequently over the last few weeks, it's something I consider very important but have been neglecting for a while now. I've finished To Kill A Mockingbird, 1984 and I'm almost done with Cloud Atlas since making an effort to pick the hobby back up and it feels great.

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PostRe: The Literature Thread
by Johnny Ryall » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:01 pm

Yeah I've been trying to read as much as possible this year. Finished Notes on a Nervous Planet, it had a lot of good advice and quotes I'll take to heart.

Read Lemon Jail earlier in one sitting which is a short memoir from one of the road crew for The Replacements. Nothing really learned from it but it's an entertaining read.

About a third of the way through The Charmed Life of Alex Moore now which is just getting towards some matrix style plot twists.

I tell you what I can't stand is book snobs, you know the sort of people who scoff because you are reading a book that's just been adapted to film. Who gives a gooseberry fool what you read as long as you enjoy it. It's for fun min.

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by Rubix » Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:10 pm

SugarDave wrote:
Rubix wrote:Reading one of the Witcher books (in my sig) not sure what to make of it. Strange being short stories but ill see how the others pan out.


Did you read The Last Wish beforehand? I really enjoyed the Witcher novels and I'm looking forward to reading them again before I replay the games some day.

I've been trying to get into the routine of reading more frequently over the last few weeks, it's something I consider very important but have been neglecting for a while now. I've finished To Kill A Mockingbird, 1984 and I'm almost done with Cloud Atlas since making an effort to pick the hobby back up and it feels great.


No this is my first witcher book

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PostRe: Currently Reading/Last Book Read
by SugarDave » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:44 pm

Rubix wrote:
SugarDave wrote:
Rubix wrote:Reading one of the Witcher books (in my sig) not sure what to make of it. Strange being short stories but ill see how the others pan out.


Did you read The Last Wish beforehand? I really enjoyed the Witcher novels and I'm looking forward to reading them again before I replay the games some day.

I've been trying to get into the routine of reading more frequently over the last few weeks, it's something I consider very important but have been neglecting for a while now. I've finished To Kill A Mockingbird, 1984 and I'm almost done with Cloud Atlas since making an effort to pick the hobby back up and it feels great.


No this is my first witcher book


I'd recommend reading it after you're done with Sword of Destiny (unless you don't like the books and stop, of course). I might be misremembering bits and pieces but I think all the stories in Last Wish take place earliest in the timeline and it contains some key stories like Geralt's first meeting with Yennefer and the contract that is essentially the seed of him being tied to Ciri.

They were probably my favourite two books of the seven.

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PostRe: The Literature Thread
by Ironhide » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:51 pm

Just started Dogs of War by Adrian Tchaikovsky and I'm liking it so far, its a bit odd to get used to reading from the perspective of a 7 foot tall genetically modified attack dog but I guess that is the point.

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by Memento Mori » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:41 pm

After reading The Outsider (good but the second half is worse than the first) I've gone back to my attempt to go through every Stephen King book I haven't read. I'm up to the 90s.

Rage-
I'd say it was the worst book I've ever read but it was so bad I couldn't even finish it properly. Ending up just speed-reading/ skimming. Irredeemably awful.
The Dead Zone- Great but a touch too long. Scarily topical given Trump.
Night Shift- Because of the cover I was waiting for a story about a haunted scarecrow and I was severely disappointed- Children of the Corn was trash. I Am the Doorway was a great creepy body-horror story and I enjoyed Gray Matter too.
Firestarter- Way too long and it's a mediocre book anyway.
The Long Walk- Great.
Roadwork- Trash.
The Running Man- The Arnold film was a lot better.
Danse Macabre- Felt it like King was repeating himself by the end, not recommended.
Cujo- Excellent, one of his best. I was surprised because I assumed it was going to be a story about the dog roaming around town murdering people and it's basically confined to one location.
Cycle of the Werewolf- Out of print so I had to pay too much for what is basically a pamphlet. Don't bother.
Christine- Too long and I'm still not entirely sure what was going on with the car. I think the story would have been more coherent if Christine was possessed by Lebay's wife rather than LeBay himself. The jealousy angle would have made more sense.
The Shawshank Redemption- A classic.
Apt Pupil- Grim :dread: Even worse when you hear what Bryan Singer was up to when they made the movie.
The Body- It was fine.
The Breathing Method- Pretty slight.
Thinner-Middle of the road King.
Pet Sematary- :datass: Top tier King. Was hoping it was going to be scarier though considering its reputation. I love a good bleak ending though.
The Tommyknockers- Considering how much people seem to hate this, I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. :lol: Far too long though and pacing is weird. The town vignettes weren't integrated as well as similar stuff in 'Salem's Lot and Cujo.

The Losers' Club podcast has mentioned several times how if King implies something it's fact and that's especially true here. Hillman hears laughter coming from the Derry Hospital drains which is a fun creepy image and then King undermines it by having Pennywise appear in person a few hundred pages later. Sometimes subtlety is better.

Needful Things is up next.

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by Brerlappin » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:10 am

Memento Mori wrote:After reading The Outsider (good but the second half is worse than the first) I've gone back to my attempt to go through every Stephen King book I haven't read. I'm up to the 90s.

Rage-
I'd say it was the worst book I've ever read but it was so bad I couldn't even finish it properly. Ending up just speed-reading/ skimming. Irredeemably awful.
The Dead Zone- Great but a touch too long. Scarily topical given Trump.
Night Shift- Because of the cover I was waiting for a story about a haunted scarecrow and I was severely disappointed- Children of the Corn was trash. I Am the Doorway was a great creepy body-horror story and I enjoyed Gray Matter too.
Firestarter- Way too long and it's a mediocre book anyway.
The Long Walk- Great.
Roadwork- Trash.
The Running Man- The Arnold film was a lot better.
Danse Macabre- Felt it like King was repeating himself by the end, not recommended.
Cujo- Excellent, one of his best. I was surprised because I assumed it was going to be a story about the dog roaming around town murdering people and it's basically confined to one location.
Cycle of the Werewolf- Out of print so I had to pay too much for what is basically a pamphlet. Don't bother.
Christine- Too long and I'm still not entirely sure what was going on with the car. I think the story would have been more coherent if Christine was possessed by Lebay's wife rather than LeBay himself. The jealousy angle would have made more sense.
The Shawshank Redemption- A classic.
Apt Pupil- Grim :dread: Even worse when you hear what Bryan Singer was up to when they made the movie.
The Body- It was fine.
The Breathing Method- Pretty slight.
Thinner-Middle of the road King.
Pet Sematary- :datass: Top tier King. Was hoping it was going to be scarier though considering its reputation. I love a good bleak ending though.
The Tommyknockers- Considering how much people seem to hate this, I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. :lol: Far too long though and pacing is weird. The town vignettes weren't integrated as well as similar stuff in 'Salem's Lot and Cujo.

The Losers' Club podcast has mentioned several times how if King implies something it's fact and that's especially true here. Hillman hears laughter coming from the Derry Hospital drains which is a fun creepy image and then King undermines it by having Pennywise appear in person a few hundred pages later. Sometimes subtlety is better.

Needful Things is up next.


I remember reading Roadwork when i was in my early 20s and thought it was garbage and stopped reading it about halfway through. Then i re-read it in my mid 30s and from the perspective of an older man who felt like life was falling apart, it was brilliant :lol: It might not be Kings best work, but it really does a good job of portraying a man whose been left behind by the world and is desperately clinging on to the remnants of his former life.

Still ploughing ahead with The Black Company books at the moment. Up to what is technically book 5, Dreams of Steel. Its weird, the writing can be hard to follow, there's lots of trappings of 80s Fantasy in there too, but at the same time there's crazy gooseberry fool i've not come across before in a fantasy series (they've completely swapped out the narrator in Dreams of Steel for someone who you never would have expected having read the series from the start), there's also real shades of grey in here too in that The Black Company themselves really are comprised of a bunch of villains, in service to a Villain, fighting a rebel army that's not much better than the villain the Black company are hired by. There's a reason Glen Cook is knows as the father of Grimdark Fantasy, because the books are definitely grim, and dark, and well worth a read. Dreams of Steel is probably the weakest in the series so far tho, the original Trilogy (books of the North) is overall much better than the Books of the South.

Tho having said that im gonna take a break and go with some highbrow gooseberry fool in the form of Skavenslayer, a book set in the Warhammer fantasy universe after playing way too much Vermintide 2.

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PostRe: The Literature Thread
by Tafdolphin » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:59 am

King is the only author whose works I enjoy more through their Wikipedia entries than the actual novels. The man's imagination is utterly unmatched but I dislike his actual writing style.

My cyberpunk tour has taken me through Neuromancer and Snow Crash and I'm now onto The Windup Girl. I'm running a cyberpunk tabletop RPG at the moment and one of the first things we agreed on whilst creating the world was that we didn't want it to be set in America. Windup Girl is a good example of how effective 'foreign' settings can be in establishing a world full of 'otherness.' The Thailand it presents is fascinatingly drawn, and immediately hooked me.

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PostRe: The Literature Thread
by Ironhide » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:57 pm

I wrote:Just started Dogs of War by Adrian Tchaikovsky and I'm liking it so far, its a bit odd to get used to reading from the perspective of a 7 foot tall genetically modified attack dog but I guess that is the point.


This book is utterly insane, there's also a gun wielding bear, a sniper lizard and a sentient swarm of cybernetic bees.

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