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by Rex Kramer » Wed May 04, 2016 12:53 pm

Squinty wrote:I'm reading that Carrion Comfort by Dan Simmons and it is pretty good. It's all about psychic vampires who go around mind raping people and controlling them for their own gains. The premise is great and it makes for some interesting set pieces.

It's kinda long, feels like I have been reading it for an eternity, to be honest. Not even halfway through it. I'm invested in it now, but I'm sure it'll take a while for me to finish.

I'm currently about half way through Terror by Dan Simmons and that is really, really long. What's surprising is that I'm still completely hooked on it even though not a great deal has happened.

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by Moggy » Wed May 04, 2016 1:24 pm

I finally managed to finish off the Mars Trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson last night.

I really enjoyed the first book (Red Mars) but thought the other two dragged a bit.

Sax FTW.

I haven’t read any new Stephen King in years and so have started 22/11/1963 (strawberry float off with the American silly dates). It’s started well, I only know the very basics of the plot of this book, I am not even sure if it is straight sci-fi fantasy or a horror so am looking forward to finding out.

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by Errkal » Wed May 04, 2016 1:26 pm

Moggy wrote:I finally managed to finish off the Mars Trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson last night.

I really enjoyed the first book (Red Mars) but thought the other two dragged a bit.

Sax FTW.

I haven’t read any new Stephen King in years and so have started 22/11/1963 (strawberry float off with the American silly dates). It’s started well, I only know the very basics of the plot of this book, I am not even sure if it is straight sci-fi fantasy or a horror so am looking forward to finding out.


I really enjoyed that one.

of the new ones Mr Mercedes is good too. and if you liked the shining Doctor Sleep is really good too

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by Poser » Wed May 04, 2016 1:56 pm

Moggy wrote:
I haven’t read any new Stephen King in years and so have started 22/11/1963 (strawberry float off with the American silly dates). It’s started well, I only know the very basics of the plot of this book, I am not even sure if it is straight sci-fi fantasy or a horror so am looking forward to finding out.


It was 11.22.63 that started me off on my current King odyssey. It's a really enjoyable book - would be good to hear what you think of it when you're done.

Coincidentally, we finished watching the TV series just last night. It was good, but not great - as is always the way with these things, it cut an awful lot from the book. Like, vast, vast sections. It also introduced unnecessary characters for the sake of narrative exposition, which was a shame.

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by King Chaz » Wed May 04, 2016 1:59 pm

My friend is suggesting I read The Painted Man, anyone read it? What did you think?

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by Moggy » Wed May 04, 2016 2:00 pm

Poser wrote:
Moggy wrote:
I haven’t read any new Stephen King in years and so have started 22/11/1963 (strawberry float off with the American silly dates). It’s started well, I only know the very basics of the plot of this book, I am not even sure if it is straight sci-fi fantasy or a horror so am looking forward to finding out.


It was 11.22.63 that started me off on my current King odyssey. It's a really enjoyable book - would be good to hear what you think of it when you're done.

Coincidentally, we finished watching the TV series just last night. It was good, but not great - as is always the way with these things, it cut an awful lot from the book. Like, vast, vast sections. It also introduced unnecessary characters for the sake of narrative exposition, which was a shame.


I've got the TV series recording on series link, but decided I wanted to read the book first. I'll check back in here once I have finished reading!

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by Poser » Wed May 04, 2016 2:08 pm

Moggy wrote:
Poser wrote:
Moggy wrote:
I haven’t read any new Stephen King in years and so have started 22/11/1963 (strawberry float off with the American silly dates). It’s started well, I only know the very basics of the plot of this book, I am not even sure if it is straight sci-fi fantasy or a horror so am looking forward to finding out.


It was 11.22.63 that started me off on my current King odyssey. It's a really enjoyable book - would be good to hear what you think of it when you're done.

Coincidentally, we finished watching the TV series just last night. It was good, but not great - as is always the way with these things, it cut an awful lot from the book. Like, vast, vast sections. It also introduced unnecessary characters for the sake of narrative exposition, which was a shame.


I've got the TV series recording on series link, but decided I wanted to read the book first. I'll check back in here once I have finished reading!


Yeah, 100% read the book first.

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by Moggy » Thu May 05, 2016 4:25 pm

Absolutely loving this book! Although I have just got to a section with a load of references to Derry and IT and so I guess I'll be dreaming of Pennywise tonight.

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by Poser » Thu May 05, 2016 5:04 pm

Moggy wrote:Absolutely loving this book! Although I have just got to a section with a load of references to Derry and IT and so I guess I'll be dreaming of Pennywise tonight.


That section blew my mind a bit tbh.

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by Squinty » Thu May 05, 2016 5:40 pm

Rex Kramer wrote:
Squinty wrote:I'm reading that Carrion Comfort by Dan Simmons and it is pretty good. It's all about psychic vampires who go around mind raping people and controlling them for their own gains. The premise is great and it makes for some interesting set pieces.

It's kinda long, feels like I have been reading it for an eternity, to be honest. Not even halfway through it. I'm invested in it now, but I'm sure it'll take a while for me to finish.

I'm currently about half way through Terror by Dan Simmons and that is really, really long. What's surprising is that I'm still completely hooked on it even though not a great deal has happened.


He's a great writer, but I had the opinion that some of Carrion Comfort could have been cut and it wouldn't have made a difference to the overall plot. I don't think Hyperion or Fall of Hyperion have the same issue. They are paced well.

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by Memento Mori » Thu May 05, 2016 6:35 pm

Poser wrote:
Moggy wrote:Absolutely loving this book! Although I have just got to a section with a load of references to Derry and IT and so I guess I'll be dreaming of Pennywise tonight.


That section blew my mind a bit tbh.

I read 11.22.63 before It so that whole section was lost on me. :( 11.22.63 is a great book though.

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by Photek » Thu May 05, 2016 6:45 pm

Poser wrote:
Moggy wrote:
I haven’t read any new Stephen King in years and so have started 22/11/1963 (strawberry float off with the American silly dates). It’s started well, I only know the very basics of the plot of this book, I am not even sure if it is straight sci-fi fantasy or a horror so am looking forward to finding out.


It was 11.22.63 that started me off on my current King odyssey. It's a really enjoyable book - would be good to hear what you think of it when you're done.

Coincidentally, we finished watching the TV series just last night. It was good, but not great - as is always the way with these things, it cut an awful lot from the book. Like, vast, vast sections. It also introduced unnecessary characters for the sake of narrative exposition, which was a shame.

I enjoyed the series, it cuts out vast swathes of the book and adds a char but they had to really cos it didn't use an internal monologue. Actress who played Sadie was class! :datass:

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by Moggy » Thu May 05, 2016 7:19 pm

strawberry float me, I haven't enjoyed a book like this for a very very long time!

Just finished the Derry section and thought his changes had got him stuck in the 50s (just like he thought!). I'm glad I'll get to read how the changes have changed the modern day world. and loved every word of it. I've had to stop for now or else I think I'll finish the whole thing!

I've still no idea if this is going to turn into a King horror or stick to being a sci-fi/fantasy book. I am very suspicious of the yellow card man though!

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by Poser » Thu May 05, 2016 7:20 pm

@photek. She was phenomenal. You know when a character smiles and you find yourself smiling back? She was flawless.

@Moggy for all of his critics, I do think King can suck you into a world in a way few others manage. I'm a horror fan, but his stuff doesn't really scare me. I mainly love the worlds and characters he creates.

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by Moggy » Thu May 05, 2016 7:32 pm

Poser wrote:@photek. She was phenomenal. You know when a character smiles and you find yourself smiling back? She was flawless.

@Moggy for all of his critics, I do think King can suck you into a world in a way few others manage. I'm a horror fan, but his stuff doesn't really scare me. I mainly love the worlds and characters he creates.


His books have never scared me (I love the writing and the worlds though) but Tim Curry as Pennywise terrified me, I was a little too young to have watched IT. :lol:

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by Memento Mori » Thu May 05, 2016 8:12 pm

Poser wrote:@photek. She was phenomenal. You know when a character smiles and you find yourself smiling back? She was flawless.

@Moggy for all of his critics, I do think King can suck you into a world in a way few others manage.


Survivor Type. Survivor Type. Survivor Type. Survivor Type. Survivor Type. Survivor Type. :dread: That story has stayed with me.

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by Poser » Thu May 05, 2016 8:46 pm

Memento Mori wrote:
Poser wrote:@photek. She was phenomenal. You know when a character smiles and you find yourself smiling back? She was flawless.

@Moggy for all of his critics, I do think King can suck you into a world in a way few others manage.


Survivor Type. Survivor Type. Survivor Type. Survivor Type. Survivor Type. Survivor Type. :dread: That story has stayed with me.


Did you read that when you were young, by any chance?

I found that the ones that really stuck were the ones from my early teens. I loved Night Shift and read it over and over. Quitters Inc and the Boogeyman were the main two that stayed in my head.

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by Memento Mori » Thu May 05, 2016 10:03 pm

Poser wrote:
Memento Mori wrote:
Poser wrote:@photek. She was phenomenal. You know when a character smiles and you find yourself smiling back? She was flawless.

@Moggy for all of his critics, I do think King can suck you into a world in a way few others manage.


Survivor Type. Survivor Type. Survivor Type. Survivor Type. Survivor Type. Survivor Type. :dread: That story has stayed with me.


Did you read that when you were young, by any chance?

I found that the ones that really stuck were the ones from my early teens. I loved Night Shift and read it over and over. Quitters Inc and the Boogeyman were the main two that stayed in my head.


If by young you mean around 23 yes. :slol: This is pretty bad actually but I don't think I'd read any Stephen King up until the last five years or so. 11.22.63 might have been my first King novel.

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by Moggy » Mon May 09, 2016 7:49 am

I should have 22/11/1963 finished off tonight and I am not sure I am going to like the way it ends (spoilers obvs!)

I have loved the book and the way that King has put everything together. Just the right amount of historical stuff mixed in with fantasy and a slight bit of horror (the Jimla in the back of the car!).

I have just got to the section where he has returned to 2011 after killing Oswald, found out that the world is strawberry floated and then gone back to 1958 through the toilet portal.

What I don't like is why King felt the need to make it that the change has caused earthquakes that "could destroy the world by 2080!". The political fallout and the fact that so many nukes have gone off (let alone Maine joining Canada :lol: ) should be more than enough to make Jake/George want to reset it, without having to throw in all the end of the world stuff.

And the resolution to the Yellow Card Man isn't great either, so they are Timecops who wear cards that change colour to show if they are mad? I was hoping for something better than that!

I still have a little bit to go though, hopefully it all ties together nicely, I just think King should have left it as JFK had to die because the world was worse if he lived, not because Earth will be shaken apart into another asteroid belt. :roll:

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by Poser » Mon May 09, 2016 9:05 am

Moggy wrote:I should have 22/11/1963 finished off tonight and I am not sure I am going to like the way it ends (spoilers obvs!)

I have loved the book and the way that King has put everything together. Just the right amount of historical stuff mixed in with fantasy and a slight bit of horror (the Jimla in the back of the car!).

I have just got to the section where he has returned to 2011 after killing Oswald, found out that the world is strawberry floated and then gone back to 1958 through the toilet portal.

What I don't like is why King felt the need to make it that the change has caused earthquakes that "could destroy the world by 2080!". The political fallout and the fact that so many nukes have gone off (let alone Maine joining Canada :lol: ) should be more than enough to make Jake/George want to reset it, without having to throw in all the end of the world stuff.

And the resolution to the Yellow Card Man isn't great either, so they are Timecops who wear cards that change colour to show if they are mad? I was hoping for something better than that!

I still have a little bit to go though, hopefully it all ties together nicely, I just think King should have left it as JFK had to die because the world was worse if he lived, not because Earth will be shaken apart into another asteroid belt. :roll:


Yeah, agree with all of that.


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