The New Fitness & Martial Arts Thread

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by satriales » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:55 pm

I joined a gym for the first time in my life!

Now I don't know what I'm doing. Are there any good beginner routines that I could follow?

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by Grumpy David » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:00 pm

satriales wrote:I joined a gym for the first time in my life!

Now I don't know what I'm doing. Are there any good beginner routines that I could follow?


If I was a beginner, I'd go for what the Reddit member Ivysaur created:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/4uijsl/a_detailed_look_at_why_stronglifts_starting/

It's simple, it focuses on the big exercises which get results, it has a good mixture of push and pull exercises, it has enough volume to get a bit of size and strength and nice mixture of upper body lifts and lower body lifts.

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by satriales » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:13 pm

Cheers, that looks good, but also a bit intimidating.

I guess I just need to do a bit of research on good form for each exercise and then go for it.

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by Brerlappin » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:31 pm

satriales wrote:Cheers, that looks good, but also a bit intimidating.

I guess I just need to do a bit of research on good form for each exercise and then go for it.


If you download the stronglifts app, it has a video for every exercise showing correct form. Also with stronglifts you start with very low weight so you can focus on getting good form first.

Do you have any fitness goals tho? Weight loss, or muscle gain, etc? Good luck tho, welcome to the club!

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by satriales » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:40 pm

Brerlappin wrote:
satriales wrote:Cheers, that looks good, but also a bit intimidating.

I guess I just need to do a bit of research on good form for each exercise and then go for it.


If you download the stronglifts app, it has a video for every exercise showing correct form. Also with stronglifts you start with very low weight so you can focus on getting good form first.

Do you have any fitness goals tho? Weight loss, or muscle gain, etc? Good luck tho, welcome to the club!

Yeah, just been reading through the Reddit comments and the stronglifts app sounds like a good start.

I already do quite a lot of running and have lost a bit of weight that way. I guess my main goal with the gym is to add some muscle, and just overall strength to prevent injury and complement the running (don't want to become too skinny).
I've also joined a kayaking club, but can't start that until August.

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by Brerlappin » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:51 pm

Ah cool, yeah stronglifts should help with a bit of muscle gain alright. I started doing it last year and I love it

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by Hime » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:18 pm

Grumpy David wrote:
satriales wrote:I joined a gym for the first time in my life!

Now I don't know what I'm doing. Are there any good beginner routines that I could follow?


If I was a beginner, I'd go for what the Reddit member Ivysaur created:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/4uijsl/a_detailed_look_at_why_stronglifts_starting/

It's simple, it focuses on the big exercises which get results, it has a good mixture of push and pull exercises, it has enough volume to get a bit of size and strength and nice mixture of upper body lifts and lower body lifts.

That's basically a modified 5x5 programme isn't it? Even a more advanced programme would just add a few more isolation exercises in so it looks like a good place to start.

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by shadow202 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:34 pm

You could also look at some PT sessions and get to grips with it through them

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by Grumpy David » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:42 pm

Hime wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:
satriales wrote:I joined a gym for the first time in my life!

Now I don't know what I'm doing. Are there any good beginner routines that I could follow?


If I was a beginner, I'd go for what the Reddit member Ivysaur created:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/4uijsl/a_detailed_look_at_why_stronglifts_starting/

It's simple, it focuses on the big exercises which get results, it has a good mixture of push and pull exercises, it has enough volume to get a bit of size and strength and nice mixture of upper body lifts and lower body lifts.

That's basically a modified 5x5 programme isn't it? Even a more advanced programme would just add a few more isolation exercises in so it looks like a good place to start.


Follows the same principles but a bit more focused with volume and upper body rather than being geared towards American football training like Stronglifts and Starting Strength.

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by Hime » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:59 pm

Grumpy David wrote:
Hime wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:
satriales wrote:I joined a gym for the first time in my life!

Now I don't know what I'm doing. Are there any good beginner routines that I could follow?


If I was a beginner, I'd go for what the Reddit member Ivysaur created:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/4uijsl/a_detailed_look_at_why_stronglifts_starting/

It's simple, it focuses on the big exercises which get results, it has a good mixture of push and pull exercises, it has enough volume to get a bit of size and strength and nice mixture of upper body lifts and lower body lifts.

That's basically a modified 5x5 programme isn't it? Even a more advanced programme would just add a few more isolation exercises in so it looks like a good place to start.


Follows the same principles but a bit more focused with volume and upper body rather than being geared towards American football training like Stronglifts and Starting Strength.

What do you class as exercises for American football?

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by Grumpy David » Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:27 pm

Hime wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:
Hime wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:
satriales wrote:I joined a gym for the first time in my life!

Now I don't know what I'm doing. Are there any good beginner routines that I could follow?


If I was a beginner, I'd go for what the Reddit member Ivysaur created:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/4uijsl/a_detailed_look_at_why_stronglifts_starting/

It's simple, it focuses on the big exercises which get results, it has a good mixture of push and pull exercises, it has enough volume to get a bit of size and strength and nice mixture of upper body lifts and lower body lifts.

That's basically a modified 5x5 programme isn't it? Even a more advanced programme would just add a few more isolation exercises in so it looks like a good place to start.


Follows the same principles but a bit more focused with volume and upper body rather than being geared towards American football training like Stronglifts and Starting Strength.

What do you class as exercises for American football?


I am referring to Starting Strength.

It's a weightlifting programme that is geared around quickly gaining strength in young teenage boys doing sports, primarily American Football.

It's not suited to those wanting a bit of strength but preferring a more muscular upper body and lacks volume (probably to minimise fatigue for sports that are practiced on the off days).

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by Hime » Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:07 pm

Grumpy David wrote:
Hime wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:
Hime wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:
satriales wrote:I joined a gym for the first time in my life!

Now I don't know what I'm doing. Are there any good beginner routines that I could follow?


If I was a beginner, I'd go for what the Reddit member Ivysaur created:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/4uijsl/a_detailed_look_at_why_stronglifts_starting/

It's simple, it focuses on the big exercises which get results, it has a good mixture of push and pull exercises, it has enough volume to get a bit of size and strength and nice mixture of upper body lifts and lower body lifts.

That's basically a modified 5x5 programme isn't it? Even a more advanced programme would just add a few more isolation exercises in so it looks like a good place to start.


Follows the same principles but a bit more focused with volume and upper body rather than being geared towards American football training like Stronglifts and Starting Strength.

What do you class as exercises for American football?


I am referring to Starting Strength.

It's a weightlifting programme that is geared around quickly gaining strength in young teenage boys doing sports, primarily American Football.

It's not suited to those wanting a bit of strength but preferring a more muscular upper body and lacks volume (probably to minimise fatigue for sports that are practiced on the off days).

Cool, thanks.

I only know from following The Buff Dudes YouTube and it seemed like something I would like as I find high weight /low rep work outs really rewarding.

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by shadow202 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:32 am

12 weeks ago I started kickboxing which so far has be brilliant and on Monday I decided to try a BJJ class which I really enjoyed but with working full time I don't think I have it in me to have my week evenings go something like this:

Monday - kickboxing
Tuesday - BJJ
Wednesday - gym
Thursday - kickboxing
Friday - BJJ

and then also go to the gym on a Saturday or Sunday

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by Brerlappin » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:01 pm

shadow202 wrote:12 weeks ago I started kickboxing which so far has be brilliant and on Monday I decided to try a BJJ class which I really enjoyed but with working full time I don't think I have it in me to have my week evenings go something like this:

Monday - kickboxing
Tuesday - BJJ
Wednesday - gym
Thursday - kickboxing
Friday - BJJ

and then also go to the gym on a Saturday or Sunday


BJJ takes a LOT out of your body. I know some people can train 5 days a week, but I think that only works if you're a youngster with super fast recovery time. For an old strawberry floater like me, after a class of hard rolling id be crippled the next day. I legitimately would be limping to work and most mornings id have to stop off at the pharmacy to get ibuprofen just to make it through the day :lol: I need a full day or two to recover. I used to do BJJ Tues & Thursday, Gym Saturday and Sunday. It was just about manageable. But if you're doing Kickboxing that includes sparring, and then doing BJJ sparring on top of that, you'd burn yourself out after a few weeks unless you're young and literally training to be a pro fighter. Do you do sparring in kickboxing or is it just like kickboxing training?

Having said that I really miss BJJ. Its an odd thing in as tough mentally and physically as it is, it gets in your blood and you cant stop thinking about it. I don't miss having everything hurt and all the random injuries, but I miss testing myself, pulling off a submission or a sweep, or just the feeling of "I cant believe I survived that" that comes at the end of a tough class. I keep meaning to go back to Judo, as its my only affordable martial art at the moment. Maybe next week ill finally get back to it. Seeing my Gi sitting around the bedroom unused is depressing

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by shadow202 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:39 pm

Brerlappin wrote:
shadow202 wrote:12 weeks ago I started kickboxing which so far has be brilliant and on Monday I decided to try a BJJ class which I really enjoyed but with working full time I don't think I have it in me to have my week evenings go something like this:

Monday - kickboxing
Tuesday - BJJ
Wednesday - gym
Thursday - kickboxing
Friday - BJJ

and then also go to the gym on a Saturday or Sunday


BJJ takes a LOT out of your body. I know some people can train 5 days a week, but I think that only works if you're a youngster with super fast recovery time. For an old strawberry floater like me, after a class of hard rolling id be crippled the next day. I legitimately would be limping to work and most mornings id have to stop off at the pharmacy to get ibuprofen just to make it through the day [emoji38] I need a full day or two to recover. I used to do BJJ Tues & Thursday, Gym Saturday and Sunday. It was just about manageable. But if you're doing Kickboxing that includes sparring, and then doing BJJ sparring on top of that, you'd burn yourself out after a few weeks unless you're young and literally training to be a pro fighter. Do you do sparring in kickboxing or is it just like kickboxing training?

Having said that I really miss BJJ. Its an odd thing in as tough mentally and physically as it is, it gets in your blood and you cant stop thinking about it. I don't miss having everything hurt and all the random injuries, but I miss testing myself, pulling off a submission or a sweep, or just the feeling of "I cant believe I survived that" that comes at the end of a tough class. I keep meaning to go back to Judo, as its my only affordable martial art at the moment. Maybe next week ill finally get back to it. Seeing my Gi sitting around the bedroom unused is depressing
I'm just going to stick to the kickboxing and the gym. Working full time trying to do kickboxing, the gym and BJJ just isn't going to work and I'd like to get a few belts at kickboxing before moving on so I at least have something to show for it

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PostRe: The New Fitness & Martial Arts Thread
by satriales » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:31 pm

Did a bootcamp class for my first gym visit. It involved a lot of squats with kettlebells. Can hardly walk now!

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by shadow202 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:08 pm

satriales wrote:Did a bootcamp class for my first gym visit. It involved a lot of squats with kettlebells. Can hardly walk now!
Was it today that you done the class?

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by satriales » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:29 pm

shadow202 wrote:
satriales wrote:Did a bootcamp class for my first gym visit. It involved a lot of squats with kettlebells. Can hardly walk now!
Was it today that you done the class?

Yeah this afternoon. I'm not used to doing squats, so doing lots of them with weight was quite tough. My legs were like jelly at the end. Not hurting or anything, just really feeling the workout.

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by Brerlappin » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:57 pm

satriales wrote:
shadow202 wrote:
satriales wrote:Did a bootcamp class for my first gym visit. It involved a lot of squats with kettlebells. Can hardly walk now!
Was it today that you done the class?

Yeah this afternoon. I'm not used to doing squats, so doing lots of them with weight was quite tough. My legs were like jelly at the end. Not hurting or anything, just really feeling the workout.


Expect to feel it even more tomorrow :lol:

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by shadow202 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:58 pm

satriales wrote:
shadow202 wrote:
satriales wrote:Did a bootcamp class for my first gym visit. It involved a lot of squats with kettlebells. Can hardly walk now!
Was it today that you done the class?

Yeah this afternoon. I'm not used to doing squats, so doing lots of them with weight was quite tough. My legs were like jelly at the end. Not hurting or anything, just really feeling the workout.
Wait until Monday you'll be in agony then, second day is alway worse on the body I find but well done on going and starting mate it's a big step.


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