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by Grumpy David » Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:03 pm

Friday night = about 4 hours sleep and way too much alcohol.

Saturday = domino's pizza and 10 hours sleep.

Sunday = 60kg overhead press 2x5. And quite easy. Bringing it back down to 40kg for 2 sets of 10. Really didn't expect the gym session today to be too productive but I've not done even attempted 60kg for a couple of months.

Started adding Concept 2 rowing at the end of the session. Hits the abs much more than I remembered!

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by Brerlappin » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:59 pm

Grumpy David wrote:Friday night = about 4 hours sleep and way too much alcohol.

Saturday = domino's pizza and 10 hours sleep.

Sunday = 60kg overhead press 2x5. And quite easy. Bringing it back down to 40kg for 2 sets of 10. Really didn't expect the gym session today to be too productive but I've not done even attempted 60kg for a couple of months.

Started adding Concept 2 rowing at the end of the session. Hits the abs much more than I remembered!


Thats a seriously good OHP, well done. I could only manage 2 sets of 5 at 47.5kg for OHP today. strawberry floating OHP wrecks me

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by Grumpy David » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:56 pm

Forgot to mention that I did a DEXA scan a few weeks back. I'm 22.7% body fat which is higher than I'd like (but about what I expected) but much lower than it would have been compared to 3 years ago when I weighed 105kg.

It also compares how much muscle you have compared to average. Despite being stronger than most people I know, I am smack in the middle for musuclarity, although my arms are more musuclar than 55% of the sample range.

I'm not convinced that sample range is truly representative of the average population. I'm convinced it has selection bias (only people who are interested in fitness and heath are likely to get a a DEXA scan done) as it seems so unlikely that I'd be just average given my strength. Seems mad to be "Advanced" strength and yet average level of muscle.


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Grumpy David wrote:Friday night = about 4 hours sleep and way too much alcohol.

Saturday = domino's pizza and 10 hours sleep.

Sunday = 60kg overhead press 2x5. And quite easy. Bringing it back down to 40kg for 2 sets of 10. Really didn't expect the gym session today to be too productive but I've not done even attempted 60kg for a couple of months.

Started adding Concept 2 rowing at the end of the session. Hits the abs much more than I remembered!


Thats a seriously good OHP, well done. I could only manage 2 sets of 5 at 47.5kg for OHP today. strawberry floating OHP wrecks me


Thanks! I've been able to do it since I was about 20, but I weighed 10kg more than I do now. 60kg is 75% of my bodyweight. Whilst I'm not sure of my 1RM as of today (years ago it was 70kg), I think I'd be somewhere between 70 and 75kg which would put me just below Advanced using this guide:

https://exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards

Which roughly matches my bench too. Advanced would have me at 125kg bench press but my best 1RM is 120KG.

Would recommend Creatine too. The energy it gives me for gym sessions is amazing. Recovery between sets is just so much easier.

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by Hime » Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:54 pm

Grumpy David wrote:Forgot to mention that I did a DEXA scan a few weeks back. I'm 22.7% body fat which is higher than I'd like (but about what I expected) but much lower than it would have been compared to 3 years ago when I weighed 105kg.

It also compares how much muscle you have compared to average. Despite being stronger than most people I know, I am smack in the middle for musuclarity, although my arms are more musuclar than 55% of the sample range.

I'm not convinced that sample range is truly representative of the average population. I'm convinced it has selection bias (only people who are interested in fitness and heath are likely to get a a DEXA scan done) as it seems so unlikely that I'd be just average given my strength. Seems mad to be "Advanced" strength and yet average level of muscle.


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Grumpy David wrote:Friday night = about 4 hours sleep and way too much alcohol.

Saturday = domino's pizza and 10 hours sleep.

Sunday = 60kg overhead press 2x5. And quite easy. Bringing it back down to 40kg for 2 sets of 10. Really didn't expect the gym session today to be too productive but I've not done even attempted 60kg for a couple of months.

Started adding Concept 2 rowing at the end of the session. Hits the abs much more than I remembered!


Thats a seriously good OHP, well done. I could only manage 2 sets of 5 at 47.5kg for OHP today. strawberry floating OHP wrecks me


Thanks! I've been able to do it since I was about 20, but I weighed 10kg more than I do now. 60kg is 75% of my bodyweight. Whilst I'm not sure of my 1RM as of today (years ago it was 70kg), I think I'd be somewhere between 70 and 75kg which would put me just below Advanced using this guide:

https://exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards

Which roughly matches my bench too. Advanced would have me at 125kg bench press but my best 1RM is 120KG.

Would recommend Creatine too. The energy it gives me for gym sessions is amazing. Recovery between sets is just so much easier.

Nice OHP. I'm really struggling with seated OHP at the moment , got my PT to check my form and I sit with a round top of my back but my arms back so I've effectively been doing a behind the head OHP. Thankfully this explains how I strawberry floated my traps. I think years of poor posture have ruined me as it feels so strange to sit with a straight back and my head back.

As for the body fat GD have you tried modifying your diet? I'm over 5 weeks into a pretty intense cut and the results have blown my mind.

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by Grumpy David » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:06 pm

Entering Tough Mudder in May 2019. 20 obstacles over 10 miles so approx every 800 metres = the next obstacle. Fingers crossed I don't get gassed out doing the running elements. :slol:

Hime wrote:Nice OHP. I'm really struggling with seated OHP at the moment , got my PT to check my form and I sit with a round top of my back but my arms back so I've effectively been doing a behind the head OHP. Thankfully this explains how I strawberry floated my traps. I think years of poor posture have ruined me as it feels so strange to sit with a straight back and my head back.

As for the body fat GD have you tried modifying your diet? I'm over 5 weeks into a pretty intense cut and the results have blown my mind.


Managed 60kg 3x5 this evening. Had spent the last OHP sessions with dumbbells doing lighter weights to just allow a bit more recovery. Felt so much easier than doing 2x5 a couple of weeks ago.

I never do seated OHP. Whether barbell or dumbells, I much prefer standing. I always felt behind the head OHP was a very unnatural movement so have never done it either.

I haven't cut as such but I've gone from being 104KG to 80.5kg. I can post a before and after pic (I think I did it when I reached 85kg). I'd say my knowledge of what to eat and how much to eat is pretty decent. The willpower to stick to it and avoiding temptations is challenging, my new employer provides free cooked lunches which have to be more calorific than what I used to eat at my previous employer. Plus seems like every other week there's a work social event based around free alcohol. So much harder to say no when you aren't paying. :slol: At least they're the ones paying for Tough Mudder!

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by Rocsteady » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:48 pm

Been working hard lately in the gym, preparing for a month off of holidays and traveling for work.

Its annoying here though, I'm in Portugal and no one leaves you the strawberry float alone :lol: I feel so anti social but I train to get into a clear headspace and almost meditate while I lift, people just constantly come up and chat even when I'm under weights. Got a high five after my final set of bench tonight which was grand though :slol:

It's weird how weak the folk are in my gym as well actually, a couple of them are huge, ripped beyond belief and 100% on roids but can't top a 100kg bench. Real testament to the power of HGH.

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by Brerlappin » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:59 pm

Rocsteady wrote:Been working hard lately in the gym, preparing for a month off of holidays and traveling for work.

Its annoying here though, I'm in Portugal and no one leaves you the strawberry float alone :lol: I feel so anti social but I train to get into a clear headspace and almost meditate while I lift, people just constantly come up and chat even when I'm under weights. Got a high five after my final set of bench tonight which was grand though :slol:

It's weird how weak the folk are in my gym as well actually, a couple of them are huge, ripped beyond belief and 100% on roids but can't top a 100kg bench. Real testament to the power of HGH.


I just don't understand that. Whats the point in looking like you can bench massive numbers if youre weak as gooseberry fool? I would rather actually have the strength and be smaller than just have muscles that are all for show

David thats a strawberry floating great OHP too man well done!

Ive been sick yet again this last week. More chest issues. I was out of the gym for a week, but able to get in a few sessions now this week its not so bad, but i had to lower my weights a fair bit.

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by Rocsteady » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:12 am

I dunno, I mean I can kind of understand it. I guess if you never really plan on using your muscles, as realistically most people aren't going to, it might make sense if you just want to look great on the beach and nothing else.

I'd find it difficult to keep up the motivation though as he evidently doesn't progress very fast to heavier weights. Must just be hyper focused on his appearance at all times.

There was a lad who I felt a bit bad for today too as he looked pretty awkward, obv a newbie. Don't want to come across as I'm criticising the guy cos I'm really not, everyone has to start somewhere. He looked fairly average build, maybe 6ft, 12 stone skinny fat, and he was really struggling benching 5kg + the weight of the (non olympic) bar. So maybe 10-12kg, at a push. Was oddly, remarkably weak.

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by Grumpy David » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:45 pm

The return of the World's Worst Shadow Boxing. The cringe boxing is back. :slol: :fp:

This time he has dragged a metallic kitchen bin into the area and is shadow boxing around it.

There's an actual boxing bag that's free too and only 12 feet away. He's been doing it 15 minutes now.

I managed 4x10 pull ups on Friday with great form, no bounce reps. And did 3x5 60kg today then 5x10 pull ups (1km treadmill run between set 4 and 5). Gonna try 62.5KG next time.

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by Brerlappin » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:00 pm

Grumpy David wrote:The return of the World's Worst Shadow Boxing. The cringe boxing is back. :slol: :fp:

This time he has dragged a metallic kitchen bin into the area and is shadow boxing around it.

There's an actual boxing bag that's free too and only 12 feet away. He's been doing it 15 minutes now.

I managed 4x10 pull ups on Friday with great form, no bounce reps. And did 3x5 60kg today then 5x10 pull ups (1km treadmill run between set 4 and 5). Gonna try 62.5KG next time.


What the strawberry float :lol:

I need to start doing more bodyweight stuff too. I used to do a few sets of chin ups every time i was at the gym but not so much since i started doing weights properly. Just having a bit of gooseberry fool luck lately between my chest issues and now this week i had what felt like an insanely painful cramp in my abdomen that was so bad the muscle was sore for a whole day afterwards. Im worried its a strawberry floating hernia but reading about them, the location of the pain would make it a hiatial hernia which is only common in women over 50 and the obese :lol: Hopefully it was just a cramp as i am super prone to cramping sadly. I remember in BJJ classes sometimes in mid-spar id have to tap myself out cause my feet would cramp up so badly :lol: It jsut sucks, my wife is away in the US for 3 weeks, and i had grand plans to hit the gym as often as possible and get in some Judo classes too but then my health was just like "nuh uh"

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by Corazon de Leon » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:03 pm

Rocsteady wrote:I dunno, I mean I can kind of understand it. I guess if you never really plan on using your muscles, as realistically most people aren't going to, it might make sense if you just want to look great on the beach and nothing else.

I'd find it difficult to keep up the motivation though as he evidently doesn't progress very fast to heavier weights. Must just be hyper focused on his appearance at all times.

There was a lad who I felt a bit bad for today too as he looked pretty awkward, obv a newbie. Don't want to come across as I'm criticising the guy cos I'm really not, everyone has to start somewhere. He looked fairly average build, maybe 6ft, 12 stone skinny fat, and he was really struggling benching 5kg + the weight of the (non olympic) bar. So maybe 10-12kg, at a push. Was oddly, remarkably weak.


Nothing wrong with t-shirt muscles as long as you don't end up looking goofy and disproportionate.

Aw that's a shame. I'm trying to fit in a bit of lifting when I can having just rejoined the gym (mostly for cardio), and even though I'm probably the same height as that bloke, but at my weakest and fattest for about three years can still go for a 45-50kg bench. :slol:

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by Rocsteady » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:26 pm

It was pretty remarkable, guess if he's managed to stick at it he should already be considerably stronger by now though.

I'm having this week off as I'm in London then got 3 weeks in the US and a week in Scotland, won't be in the gym at all which will be difficult. If I have some poles to do dips or chins from I'm fine but I can never be bothered just doing push ups and bodyweight squats.

Got a boxing gym lined up in Spain from mid-November at least, planning to throw myself back in at the deep end to recover my cardio rapidly. Will need to get heavy squatting then too, find it's always my legs that lose muscle mass fastest.

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by Grumpy David » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:48 pm

Brerlappin wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:The return of the World's Worst Shadow Boxing. The cringe boxing is back. :slol: :fp:

This time he has dragged a metallic kitchen bin into the area and is shadow boxing around it.

There's an actual boxing bag that's free too and only 12 feet away. He's been doing it 15 minutes now.

I managed 4x10 pull ups on Friday with great form, no bounce reps. And did 3x5 60kg today then 5x10 pull ups (1km treadmill run between set 4 and 5). Gonna try 62.5KG next time.


What the strawberry float :lol:

I need to start doing more bodyweight stuff too. I used to do a few sets of chin ups every time i was at the gym but not so much since i started doing weights properly. Just having a bit of gooseberry fool luck lately between my chest issues and now this week i had what felt like an insanely painful cramp in my abdomen that was so bad the muscle was sore for a whole day afterwards. Im worried its a strawberry floating hernia but reading about them, the location of the pain would make it a hiatial hernia which is only common in women over 50 and the obese :lol: Hopefully it was just a cramp as i am super prone to cramping sadly. I remember in BJJ classes sometimes in mid-spar id have to tap myself out cause my feet would cramp up so badly :lol: It jsut sucks, my wife is away in the US for 3 weeks, and i had grand plans to hit the gym as often as possible and get in some Judo classes too but then my health was just like "nuh uh"



I couldn't resist taking a 10 second clip of that madness. :slol: Didn't upload it to Youtube in case it counted as bullying, but may do so anyway. :shifty:

Pull ups are my favourite exercise, I need to buy a belt to attach weights to since I've started finding them too easy. The other good thing about training them is that it's almost certainly bound to help with sparring in jujitsu, gripping a Gi is easier, overall strength is better and they're easier to recover from compared to weightlifting.

I've had some surprisingly sore abs lately too - I think rowing did it...or rowing and too much Guinness. Not willing to give up either however!

Rocsteady wrote:It was pretty remarkable, guess if he's managed to stick at it he should already be considerably stronger by now though.

I'm having this week off as I'm in London then got 3 weeks in the US and a week in Scotland, won't be in the gym at all which will be difficult. If I have some poles to do dips or chins from I'm fine but I can never be bothered just doing push ups and bodyweight squats.

Got a boxing gym lined up in Spain from mid-November at least, planning to throw myself back in at the deep end to recover my cardio rapidly. Will need to get heavy squatting then too, find it's always my legs that lose muscle mass fastest.



Where are you staying in London? EasyGym have PAYG sessions for about £5 if you want to turn 5 weeks off the gym into 4 weeks. The one in Wandsworth is the best equipped gym I've ever been to.

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by Grumpy David » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:35 pm

3x5 overhead press at 62.5KG. About 77%of my bodyweight. 3rd set filmed. Despite being right handed it seems like my left arm was slightly stronger although it could just be the angle.


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by Brerlappin » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:01 pm

Grumpy David wrote:3x5 overhead press at 62.5KG. About 77%of my bodyweight. 3rd set filmed. Despite being right handed it seems like my left arm was slightly stronger although it could just be the angle.



Okay maybe im retarded but i always start my OHP with the bar on the floor, this actually looks like ti would be a lot easier

Rocsteady wrote:It was pretty remarkable, guess if he's managed to stick at it he should already be considerably stronger by now though.

I'm having this week off as I'm in London then got 3 weeks in the US and a week in Scotland, won't be in the gym at all which will be difficult. If I have some poles to do dips or chins from I'm fine but I can never be bothered just doing push ups and bodyweight squats.

Got a boxing gym lined up in Spain from mid-November at least, planning to throw myself back in at the deep end to recover my cardio rapidly. Will need to get heavy squatting then too, find it's always my legs that lose muscle mass fastest.


Nice! When was the last time you did any boxing? Im still salty about them taking the heavy bag out of my gym. Id love another few rounds on that :(
whereabouts in the US are you going?

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by Grumpy David » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:25 pm

Brerlappin wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:3x5 overhead press at 62.5KG. About 77%of my bodyweight. 3rd set filmed. Despite being right handed it seems like my left arm was slightly stronger although it could just be the angle.



Okay maybe im retarded but i always start my OHP with the bar on the floor, this actually looks like ti would be a lot easier.


Yeah if you are cleaning (or power cleaning) the weight to your shoulders you're doing a "Clean and Press". Different exercise entirely. Although you should comfortably be able to clean what you can overhead press since the legs and back should be stronger than the shoulders.

The main way people cheat on OHP is by using the knees and doing a "Push Press" or leaning back so much it's almost a standing up bench press.

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by Brerlappin » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:28 pm

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Brerlappin wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:3x5 overhead press at 62.5KG. About 77%of my bodyweight. 3rd set filmed. Despite being right handed it seems like my left arm was slightly stronger although it could just be the angle.



Okay maybe im retarded but i always start my OHP with the bar on the floor, this actually looks like ti would be a lot easier.


Yeah if you are cleaning (or power cleaning) the weight to your shoulders you're doing a "Clean and Press". Different exercise entirely. Although you should comfortably be able to clean what you can overhead press since the legs and back should be stronger than the shoulders.

The main way people cheat on OHP is by using the knees and doing a "Push Press" or leaning back so much it's almost a standing up bench press.


Ah okay i get you. Yeah so basically ive been doing clean and press this whole time :lol: I can clean the bar easily but i do think the effort to clean it definitely makes the whole thing a bit harder

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by Rocsteady » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:49 pm

Out near Blackheath GD so none near me, ta though. Think I'll just take it easy for once, getting restless as already but.

Been a good couple of years since I last had a heavy sparring sesh but was going to classes in Budapest not too long ago. I'm not counting getting battered in Thailand earlier this year, was trying and failing to turn that muay thai fight into boxing :shifty: Do always miss having heavy bags in the gym when they're not there.

Off to Texas for a week (work) where there will be a gym and a pool but not sure I'll actually get the chance to enter either, expecting 12 hour days. Then a two week road trip down Cali where alcohol and burgers will be my sole diet, should be sweet as though!

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by Albear » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:18 pm

Would anyone object if I lock this thread and someone else creates a new one?

The broken last post button is doing my head in!

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Anyone want to step up? It's a good idea but I cba to be honest.

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