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by Johnny Ryall » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:11 pm

Thanks for the kind words btw.

Been thinking about it today and I think I will pop into the gym after work and sign up. Keen to not let autumn winter wreck my progress. Never realised they are open 7 days either, they close at 1630 today though so I'll leave it for after work. Saw they have a beginners weightlifting class on Tuesday nights, keen for that I think.

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by Slayerx » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:22 pm

Joined works gym recently its open 5am til 7pm Monday to Friday and Saturday 9am til 3pm.

I've been once at 6am and it's dead, aiming to go about twice a week.

For £15 a year can't really go wrong.

Looking to tone up and get in shape for my wedding next year.

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by Knoëleo » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:14 pm

Went back to that Muay Thai gym for another lesson and signed up properly. My knuckles are raw after doing hooks on the pads. I don't feel quite as exhausted as I did after the last session, but the hiit at the end was much less intense, so that'll be why.

Got a pair of "proper" Muay Thai shorts with the gym name and some garish patterning with my membership, too, which is nice.

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by Johnny Ryall » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:28 pm

First sesh at the gym. Kinda brief but I'm short on time tonight.

I think I hate treadmills. Maybe it's how the Aircon is setup but I felt like I was overheating within minutes. Always feel on the verge of falling off too. Think I will keep the treadmill for when the gooseberry fool weather comes. I might sweat running outside but that was the first time I recall it literally dripping off me.

Totally planning on strawberry floating about with the resistance machines on Sunday though.

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by Grumpy David » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:37 pm

Johnny Ryall wrote:First sesh at the gym. Kinda brief but I'm short on time tonight.

I think I hate treadmills. Maybe it's how the Aircon is setup but I felt like I was overheating within minutes. Always feel on the verge of falling off too. Think I will keep the treadmill for when the gooseberry fool weather comes. I might sweat running outside but that was the first time I recall it literally dripping off me.

Totally planning on strawberry floating about with the resistance machines on Sunday though.


Forget about the machines dude, they're crap.

Give this programme a go:

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by Johnny Ryall » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:29 pm

Maybe. There's one area for free weights that always looks heaving. My only complaint about the place.

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by Rocsteady » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:44 pm

You have to use free weights Johnny. The free weight areas are always packed for a reason, they work.

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by Johnny Ryall » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:12 pm

Yeah one of my mates was on about metafit which I think is pretty much that. Roping one of them into coming Sunday they know way more about lifting form than I do.

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by Knoëleo » Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:16 pm

Grumpy David wrote:Forget about the machines dude, they're crap.

Give this programme a go:

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Bench and OHP every day? What the strawberry float? :lol:

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by Rocsteady » Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:27 pm

Thought that too, maybe for an absolute beginner it would be okish but you're getting some severe muscular imbalances and overtraining with that. Typical Starting Strength's a much better shout.

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by Dual » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:13 am

Always Stronglifts

https://stronglifts.com

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by Johnny Ryall » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:58 pm

Oh they have a guided app that might be handy. I only made it through c25k with the app guiding me on timing and that worked great.

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by That's not a growth » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:29 pm

I find benching by myself fine, I just never test my 1RM and never increase the weight too quickly; either during a session or session to session.

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by CuriousOyster » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:51 pm

I don't have anyone to spot me benching so more often than not I use dumb bells for chest press instead, can try going heavy as you think you can and if start to fail can just drop them to your side. Pretty pleased onto the 50kgs for reps now because gave it a go thinking I couldn't.

Just start with the bar which is usually 20kg with no weights and get your form/confidence (I usually lay with bar at eye level, someone can tell me I'm wrong) and even just add 5kg to each side to see how strong you are/feel to begin with. I can bench an alright amount 110kg-ish but usually prefer to go for form/reps rather than max.

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by Dual » Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:39 pm

Johnny Ryall wrote:Oh they have a guided app that might be handy. I only made it through c25k with the app guiding me on timing and that worked great.


It's very simple and you will see gains. Plenty of time to get your form right as well because you start light.

When you start plateauing or you get bored you can then supplement with pull ups and stuff. This can all be done within the app as well.

Highly recommended.

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by I Believe In Stool Bloke » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:42 am

I have always come up against a brick wall when working on my bench press, even years back when I was taking Starting Strength seriously.

The most I have ever been able to bench is 92.5kg for 3x3 and 95kg for 2x3.

I did some work on lower weight/higher reps last night and managed 3 sets of 7, 6 and 5 reps of 82.5kg. I've just never had much success at breaking through this top end. As soon as I go over 85kg I find it impossible to compete a set of 5 reps.

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by Rocsteady » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:47 pm

Brerlappin wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:
Rocsteady wrote:That's cool, I'm currently weighing up the option of marketing for a muay thai/boxing gym in Thailand. Would mean living out there for a few months from January but would get unlimited free classes, free accommodation and three meals a day for nothing.

You think you'll go back?

I reckon so. The gym is five minutes from my house, and they do beginner classes I can make it to on two evenings in the week, and one on a Saturday. I must have been the oldest student in the room by about a decade, though. :lol:

It's a little pricey, £50/month, but they provide all your gear and a uniform for you, and there's no contract or joining fee. It probably makes your first month where you get all your gear great value, and the rest less so. The instructor seems like a decent guy, and the place has some great write ups from people online.

They ended the class with some tabata sprints, 20s on, 10s rest, for three rounds, and I felt like I was going to hurl with that topping off a solid hour of pad work I was totally new to.


Thats cool man, fair play! Hardest part of any martial art, just getting in the door. Once you do that, everything else is easy. 50 a month sounds about right, sadly any martial art thats in use in MMA is pricey as strawberry float nowadays. My first BJJ gym was €90 a month, (now its up to 110 last i heard, and thats about the average). The only reason my current gym is only €50 a month is cause our instructor is "only" a purple belt. Is it your first martial art? I tried MMA striking before but i really dont like getting punched in the face so i did BJJ instead :lol: I loved all the workouts tho, loved padwork and the conditioning, but the frist time someone clocked me on the jaw i knew it wasnt for me haha

Ian if youre looking to do muay thai in Thailand, you should watch this first, just so you know what youre getting yourself into :lol:


Finally got round to watching that this morning, was surprisingly pretty great. Thought it'd be the typical American douchebags having never heard of that show before but they seemed pretty respectful and willing to learn.

Looks tough as strawberry float though, maybe I'll just stick to the yoga section of the camp :slol:

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by Grumpy David » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:32 pm

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:I have always come up against a brick wall when working on my bench press, even years back when I was taking Starting Strength seriously.

The most I have ever been able to bench is 92.5kg for 3x3 and 95kg for 2x3.

I did some work on lower weight/higher reps last night and managed 3 sets of 7, 6 and 5 reps of 82.5kg. I've just never had much success at breaking through this top end. As soon as I go over 85kg I find it impossible to compete a set of 5 reps.


What do you weigh and do have really long arms?

Bench 3x a week. The weight will go up. Creatine too. :datass:

I went from bench pressing 60KG 3x5 to 100KG 3x5 in about 4 months. Admittedly, I wasn't new to weightlifting but I hadn't been inside a gym for 4 years and had lost a huge amount of strength. I even managed to get my 1RM to 120KG earlier in the year and that was at a lighter bodyweight too compared to 6 years ago when I did 112.5KG.

Also, pull ups are amazing. I was so terrible at them but stuck with them every workout. I can 3x9 super strict form wide grip pull ups easily when I would struggle to do 1 a few years ago.

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by I Believe In Stool Bloke » Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:41 pm

Grumpy David wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:I have always come up against a brick wall when working on my bench press, even years back when I was taking Starting Strength seriously.

The most I have ever been able to bench is 92.5kg for 3x3 and 95kg for 2x3.

I did some work on lower weight/higher reps last night and managed 3 sets of 7, 6 and 5 reps of 82.5kg. I've just never had much success at breaking through this top end. As soon as I go over 85kg I find it impossible to compete a set of 5 reps.


What do you weigh and do have really long arms?

Bench 3x a week. The weight will go up. Creatine too. :datass:

I went from bench pressing 60KG 3x5 to 100KG 3x5 in about 4 months. Admittedly, I wasn't new to weightlifting but I hadn't been inside a gym for 4 years and had lost a huge amount of strength. I even managed to get my 1RM to 120KG earlier in the year and that was at a lighter bodyweight too compared to 6 years ago when I did 112.5KG.

Also, pull ups are amazing. I was so terrible at them but stuck with them every workout. I can 3x9 super strict form wide grip pull ups easily when I would struggle to do 1 a few years ago.

Currently weighing around 75kg, arms in proportion to my height as far as I'm aware!

I don't like to neglect pulling lifts and I don't normally mix push/pull in the same session. Do you think I should just bench every session anyway?

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by Grumpy David » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:45 pm

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Currently weighing around 75kg, arms in proportion to my height as far as I'm aware!

I don't like to neglect pulling lifts and I don't normally mix push/pull in the same session. Do you think I should just bench every session anyway?


I wanted to get better at bench press and I found the easiest way to do this was to bench press more often. Simple idea, but effective. I got great at squats because I basically did it 3x a week for 3 years, I didn't progress at bench at a similar pace because I didn't train it frequently.

Also, do it as the first lift in the gym.

Maybe just do more Face Pulls to counteract the additional bench work. It's pretty much the opposite to bench.

You could look into VRI: Volume, Rest, Intensity as a method to break through the plateau.

Although at 75kg, you're benching comfortably more than you weigh anyway, so I wouldn't argue it's a weak lift of yours.


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