The Official Labour Unity Thread: Corbyn re-elected as leader

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by Qikz » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:44 am

Corbyn has to be a plant by the tories right? I mean he doesn't seem to care that they're doing all this gooseberry fool at least.
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PostRe: The Official Labour Unity Thread: Corbyn re-elected as leader
by Memento Mori » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:46 am

Qikz wrote:Corbyn has to be a plant by the tories right? I mean he doesn't seem to care that they're doing all this gooseberry fool at least.

Russia would be more likely than the Tories. He's not a plant though, he's just severely incompetent.
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by Moggy » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:03 am

Chuka seems to be the most electable out of the current crop of Labour MPs but has obviously got some skeletons in his closet.

Corbyn won't give up power until 2020 at least, maybe they will have somebody rise up the ranks by then.
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by Rex Kramer » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:32 am

It a terrible indictment of the country but I think Chuka isn't white enough to get elected as Prime Minister in the current climate. Maybe in 10 years or so when we've whittled down the old racists a bit.
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PostRe: The Official Labour Unity Thread: Corbyn re-elected as leader
by Moggy » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:45 am

Like with Obama I don't think that would be much on an issue. The people that wouldn't vote for him because he is mixed raced would be countered by those that would vote for him based on it.
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PostRe: The Official Labour Unity Thread: Corbyn re-elected as leader
by lex-man » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:09 pm

Aren't there rumours that Chuka is bi sexual. I probably vote for him, unless something ridiculous came out about him.

Being a mixed race, bi sexual could really hurt your chances of winning an election IMO.
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by Lagamorph » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:13 pm

Corbyn won't give up power until the UK has fully left the EU. It's been his personal goal for his entire career and he's going to do everything he can to help push it through (like invoking a three line whip to make his MPs vote in favour of it), no chance he's going to risk someone pro-Remain usurping his position and risking the hard brexit he truly wants.
The only thing getting Corbyn out of his position whilst the UK is still even partly linked with the EU is either a leadership challenge or death from old age.
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by lex-man » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:22 pm

Lagamorph wrote:Corbyn won't give up power until the UK has fully left the EU. It's been his personal goal for his entire career and he's going to do everything he can to help push it through (like invoking a three line whip to make his MPs vote in favour of it), no chance he's going to risk someone pro-Remain usurping his position and risking the hard brexit he truly wants.
The only thing getting Corbyn out of his position whilst the UK is still even partly linked with the EU is either a leadership challenge or death from old age.


I reckon he is vulnerable to a good candidate now because his backing by party members is collapsing. I actually think Angela Eagle would now be in with a shot against him. As crazy as that sounds.
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PostRe: The Official Labour Unity Thread: Corbyn re-elected as leader
by Meep » Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:27 pm

Rex Kramer wrote:It a terrible indictment of the country but I think Chuka isn't white enough to get elected as Prime Minister in the current climate. Maybe in 10 years or so when we've whittled down the old racists a bit.

It would be very dangerous to appease bigotry by basing leader selection on the current trends. Now is the time for resistance, not capitulation.

IMO the UK has regressed very rapidly from a moral perspective. Case in point, think of the thousands accepted in the Kinder transport compared with the current quibbling over a few hundred child refugees. The current generation, or at least those in the over fifty bracket, has fallen far from the noble character of the generation who fought and died in WW2. The post-war generation, no offence to my own parents, seem to be typified by a propensity for extreme selfishness; up to and including levelling massive burdens onto those who will succeed them and fair more poorly than they did.

Seeing the new post-millenials crowd, such as my young cousins, come along gives me hope though. They are far more engaged on political and social issues than I remember being as a teenager just over a decade ago.
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PostRe: The Official Labour Unity Thread: Corbyn re-elected as leader
by Hyperion » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:45 pm

lex-man wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Corbyn won't give up power until the UK has fully left the EU. It's been his personal goal for his entire career and he's going to do everything he can to help push it through (like invoking a three line whip to make his MPs vote in favour of it), no chance he's going to risk someone pro-Remain usurping his position and risking the hard brexit he truly wants.
The only thing getting Corbyn out of his position whilst the UK is still even partly linked with the EU is either a leadership challenge or death from old age.


I reckon he is vulnerable to a good candidate now because his backing by party members is collapsing. I actually think Angela Eagle would now be in with a shot against him. As crazy as that sounds.


Angela Eagle would probably do worse
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PostRe: The Official Labour Unity Thread: Corbyn re-elected as leader
by Dinoric » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:40 pm

It didn't help that Angela Eagle didn't know whether she was running for Labour leader or hosting her new daytime chat show.
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PostRe: The Official Labour Unity Thread: Corbyn re-elected as leader
by lex-man » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:41 pm

She was an absolute nightmare. But at the moment I could see her beating Corbyn.
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PostRe: The Official Labour Unity Thread: Corbyn re-elected as leader
by Grumpy David » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:54 pm



Corbyn has a bit of a battle on his hands...
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PostRe: The Official Labour Unity Thread: Corbyn re-elected as leader
by Moggy » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:48 pm

With the UK heading for hard Brexit, who the strawberry float would vote for UKIP?
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PostRe: The Official Labour Unity Thread: Corbyn re-elected as leader
by Errkal » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:51 pm

Moggy wrote:With the UK heading for hard Brexit, who the strawberry float would vote for UKIP?

Idiots, same as before.
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PostRe: The Official Labour Unity Thread: Corbyn re-elected as leader
by DML » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:28 pm

The problem with UKIP is despite having a lot of support they can't get MPs in the House Of Commons. They are basically an irrelevance until they get numbers in and Labour shouldn't really be compared to them. They are wildly more successful for now.
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PostRe: The Official Labour Unity Thread: Corbyn re-elected as leader
by Errkal » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:30 pm

It is insane though that a party that is irrelevant in terms of votes etc. seems to have such a sway on policy though.
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PostRe: The Official Labour Unity Thread: Corbyn re-elected as leader
by DML » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:37 pm

Errkal wrote:It is insane though that a party that is irrelevant in terms of votes etc. seems to have such a sway on policy though.


Only because May is essentially a racist herself.
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by Errkal » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:40 pm

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Errkal wrote:It is insane though that a party that is irrelevant in terms of votes etc. seems to have such a sway on policy though.


Only because May is essentially a racist herself.


Even before that though, they are the reason we had a referendum even though they are an insignificant band of racists.

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