The Politics Thread 4

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by Lagamorph » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:40 am

Thing is going after Rudd is the wrong person.
Most of what led to this happened before her time at the Home Office. May is who everyone looking at this should be after, but Rudd is the one taking the fall.

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by Moggy » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:45 am

Lagamorph wrote:Thing is going after Rudd is the wrong person.
Most of what led to this happened before her time at the Home Office. May is who everyone looking at this should be after, but Rudd is the one taking the fall.


I mostly agree, May is the one that was behind the “hostile environment” and implemented the banana splitish policies.

Rudd isn’t innocent either though. If anybody is going to have to fall on their sword then they will make sure it is Rudd, but I will not have much sympathy for her.

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by satriales » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:00 am

Rudd is currently facing an Urgent Question from Labour about her lying to the committee yesterday.

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by Moggy » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:27 am

Who would have guessed that Rees-Mogg was the sort of kid that would wear a monocle? :slol:

twitter.com/newsukarchives/status/989110456940974080


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by Grumpy David » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:46 am

Moggy wrote:Who would have guessed that Rees-Mogg was the sort of kid that would wear a monocle? :slol:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by tolrag » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:09 pm

He looks like He's wearing his Dad's clothes in both those pictures.

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by Lagamorph » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:12 pm

It looks like it could well be the same jacket in both.

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by Squinty » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:16 pm

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by Garth » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:08 pm

Home Office 'to scrap immigration removals targets'

The Home Office is to axe immigration removal targets - a day after Home Secretary Amber Rudd said they did not exist, the BBC understands.

Ms Rudd told MPs investigating the Windrush scandal on Wednesday targets were not set for immigration officials.

But after fresh evidence emerged overnight she was forced on Thursday to admit to MPs that "local" targets for "internal" use had been set.

The Home Office is now scrapping them, the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg understands.

The instruction to axe the targets is likely to be sent out from Immigration and Enforcement, a division of the Home Office, in the coming days.

However, the government's overall target of reducing net migration to under 100,000 a year will stay in place, the BBC's political editor said.

The home secretary faced fresh calls to quit following her admission that the targets did exist and, according to union officials, are prominently displayed on posters at regional immigration centres.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43902599

Scrapping those targets that don't exist :slol:

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by Moggy » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:22 pm

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by <]:^D » Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:09 pm

ive said it before, and it often feels like shouting into a fridge, but these Conservatives are banana splits :x

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by BID0 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:09 pm

You'd think with all that money that JRM could afford to buy some nice suits :dread:

There were 3 immigration vans at Sainsbury's in Basildon throughout the day on Tuesday rounding people up :dread:

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by KK » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:54 pm

Very long documentary (Hour, 30) on Channel 5 tonight at 10pm entitled Michael Portillo: Our Housing Crisis - Who's To Blame?

As he traces the rise and fall of the British council estate, Michael Portillo investigates the story of the social housing revolution that has transformed the country. He visits different estates across Britain and uncovers the reality of council housing in Britain today.

On a visit to the first ever council estate in the UK – the Boundary estate in Shoreditch – Portillo meets residents who bought their property under Right to Buy for £17,500; many of the flats now sell for over £1m.

During a visit to the Druids Heath estate in Birmingham, where half of children now live below the poverty line, Portilo visits a food bank and finds many tenants living in sub-standard accommodation, struggling for the basics of survival.

Portilo ends his journey on a building site in Canary Wharf, where a private developer explains that 25 per cent of the new flats will be allocated for “affordable housing”, with rent capped at 50 per cent of the market rate. Portillo argues that in Canary Wharf people can pay as much as £2,000 per month in rent, making even subsidised accomadation unaffordable.

“It is nearly 30 years since [we] were in office, and successive Labour and Conservative governments since have shown little enthusiasm for building more council houses.”

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by Hypes » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:01 pm

Nearly 30 years? It's only just over 20!

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by KK » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:07 pm

I’m guessing he’s talking about when he would have influenced or made decisions on housing alongside Thatcher. Under Major he was Defence Secretary. Can’t remember what he was before that.

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by Ironhide » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:01 pm

Grumpy David wrote:
Moggy wrote:Who would have guessed that Rees-Mogg was the sort of kid that would wear a monocle? :slol:

twitter.com/newsukarchives/status/989110456940974080



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He's just as banana splitish as May, Rudd and Hunt.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by KK » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:17 pm

Daily Mail

Twitter has been shamed by a journalist for failing to act after a stranger threatened to rape his wife.

Stig Abell, editor of the Times Literary Supplement, had just appeared live on Sky News when he was sent messages on the social media site by a man who claimed to know where he lived.

The posts, from a user calling himself Aaron O’Shaughnessy, made crude remarks about Mr Abell’s wife Nadine and threatened to rape her.

Mr Abell, 38, complained to Twitter but said the social media giant’s initial reaction – that the tweets did not breach its rules – was a ‘disgrace’.

He shared the vile postings with his 21,500 followers and received hundreds of messages of support, after which Twitter agreed to step in and block O’Shaughnessy’s account.

Mr Abell, who received the threats on Tuesday, said yesterday he had not decided whether to complain to the police.

He said: ‘Twitter is happy to make money from its users, but not to spend any dealing with the problems and abuse that goes on. Being a woman on Twitter evidently can be an appalling experience, and the company doesn’t seem to care.’ Describing the abuse to his followers on Twitter, Mr Abell wrote: ‘After I appeared on Sky News last night, a man started posting about how he knew where I lived and – in detail – how he wanted to rape my wife.’

Posting copies of some of the offensive tweets, he added: ‘This is not all of it, but this sort of thing apparently is acceptable to Twitter, which has said it is not in breach of its rules.

‘Thank you for everyone’s support here. I can live with abuse directed at me, but I find this sort of thing just sickening. I have the most amazing wife, who shouldn’t have to put up with this. No woman should.’

Twitter later contacted Mr Abell to say it had ‘misjudged the first response’ to his complaint and that O’Shaughnessy’s account was suspended. The journalist said he believed the company acted only because he had shamed it to his followers.

Asked what might have triggered the vile tweets, Mr Abell said he was part of a panel reviewing the following day’s newspapers, adding that the discussions were about ‘the standard stuff – Trump, Windrush, the front pages’. Mrs Abell, a 39-year-old hypnotherapist, and the couple’s two young children were at home when the tweets were posted.

Among those supporting Mr Abell was science teacher Alex Weatherall, a father of three.

He wrote: ‘It’s not to be tolerated. That person needs to be arrested, and charged under the misuse of communications act if nothing else.’

Mr Weatherall called on the Crown Prosecution Service to take action.

A Twitter spokesman said yesterday: ‘We don’t comment on individual accounts.’

I do wonder why Twitter always seems so slow to act in many of these cases.

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by DML » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:36 pm

KK wrote:
Daily Mail

Twitter has been shamed by a journalist for failing to act after a stranger threatened to rape his wife.

Stig Abell, editor of the Times Literary Supplement, had just appeared live on Sky News when he was sent messages on the social media site by a man who claimed to know where he lived.

The posts, from a user calling himself Aaron O’Shaughnessy, made crude remarks about Mr Abell’s wife Nadine and threatened to rape her.

Mr Abell, 38, complained to Twitter but said the social media giant’s initial reaction – that the tweets did not breach its rules – was a ‘disgrace’.

He shared the vile postings with his 21,500 followers and received hundreds of messages of support, after which Twitter agreed to step in and block O’Shaughnessy’s account.

Mr Abell, who received the threats on Tuesday, said yesterday he had not decided whether to complain to the police.

He said: ‘Twitter is happy to make money from its users, but not to spend any dealing with the problems and abuse that goes on. Being a woman on Twitter evidently can be an appalling experience, and the company doesn’t seem to care.’ Describing the abuse to his followers on Twitter, Mr Abell wrote: ‘After I appeared on Sky News last night, a man started posting about how he knew where I lived and – in detail – how he wanted to rape my wife.’

Posting copies of some of the offensive tweets, he added: ‘This is not all of it, but this sort of thing apparently is acceptable to Twitter, which has said it is not in breach of its rules.

‘Thank you for everyone’s support here. I can live with abuse directed at me, but I find this sort of thing just sickening. I have the most amazing wife, who shouldn’t have to put up with this. No woman should.’

Twitter later contacted Mr Abell to say it had ‘misjudged the first response’ to his complaint and that O’Shaughnessy’s account was suspended. The journalist said he believed the company acted only because he had shamed it to his followers.

Asked what might have triggered the vile tweets, Mr Abell said he was part of a panel reviewing the following day’s newspapers, adding that the discussions were about ‘the standard stuff – Trump, Windrush, the front pages’. Mrs Abell, a 39-year-old hypnotherapist, and the couple’s two young children were at home when the tweets were posted.

Among those supporting Mr Abell was science teacher Alex Weatherall, a father of three.

He wrote: ‘It’s not to be tolerated. That person needs to be arrested, and charged under the misuse of communications act if nothing else.’

Mr Weatherall called on the Crown Prosecution Service to take action.

A Twitter spokesman said yesterday: ‘We don’t comment on individual accounts.’

I do wonder why Twitter always seems so slow to act in many of these cases.


Because there's literally millions upon millions off accounts?

I mean COME on...It's obvious isn't it? Stop being sensationalist.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by KK » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:54 pm

Did you even read the article? They only acted because they were publicly shamed into doing so.

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by DML » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:59 am

KK wrote:Did you even read the article? They only acted because they were publicly shamed into doing so.


I have personal experience and the whole thing is just an impossible situation.


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