The Politics Thread 4

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by lex-man » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:28 pm

At some point all these organizations is are going to have to start pay walling. That or they'll all go broke.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by Memento Mori » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:42 pm

I think the Telegraph's readership is just so old it's dying out.

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by Squinty » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:45 am


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by Moggy » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:55 am

Squinty wrote:https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/blackout-warning-every-northern-ireland-street-will-be-plunged-into-darkness-36505715.html

LOL Austerity.


Finally the DUP will take you fully back to the dark ages.

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by Squinty » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:45 pm

Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/blackout-warning-every-northern-ireland-street-will-be-plunged-into-darkness-36505715.html

LOL Austerity.


Finally the DUP will take you fully back to the dark ages.


Women giving birth to unwanted babies in the pitch dark streets of Belfast. Sounds like Utopia :datass:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by Moggy » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:07 pm



:fp:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by Moggy » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:15 pm

Looks like UKIP will be looking for another new leader soon. :lol:


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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by Memento Mori » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:16 pm

Farage will be back then.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by Squinty » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:46 pm

Squinty wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/blackout-warning-every-northern-ireland-street-will-be-plunged-into-darkness-36505715.html

LOL Austerity.


Finally the DUP will take you fully back to the dark ages.


Women giving birth to unwanted babies in the pitch dark streets of Belfast. Sounds like Utopia :datass:


Sorry to come back to this, but the roads down near where I came from are strawberry floating shocking. Looks like they aren't going to be fixed anytime soon.

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by Moggy » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:48 pm

Squinty wrote:
Squinty wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/blackout-warning-every-northern-ireland-street-will-be-plunged-into-darkness-36505715.html

LOL Austerity.


Finally the DUP will take you fully back to the dark ages.


Women giving birth to unwanted babies in the pitch dark streets of Belfast. Sounds like Utopia :datass:


Sorry to come back to this, but the roads down near where I came from are strawberry floating shocking. Looks like they aren't going to be fixed anytime soon.


What the strawberry float are you spending the £1billion bribe on?

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by Squinty » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:51 pm

Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:
Squinty wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/blackout-warning-every-northern-ireland-street-will-be-plunged-into-darkness-36505715.html

LOL Austerity.


Finally the DUP will take you fully back to the dark ages.


Women giving birth to unwanted babies in the pitch dark streets of Belfast. Sounds like Utopia :datass:


Sorry to come back to this, but the roads down near where I came from are strawberry floating shocking. Looks like they aren't going to be fixed anytime soon.


What the strawberry float are you spending the £1billion bribe on?


strawberry float knows. Pothole creation probably.

It's just nuts though. They haven't even been able to properly maintain graveyards either.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by KK » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:28 pm

There’s a Panaroma special tonight at 8:30pm on BBC1 about racial segregation in Blackburn that might be worth watching.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by lex-man » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:27 am

KK wrote:There’s a Panaroma special tonight at 8:30pm on BBC1 about racial segregation in Blackburn that might be worth watching.


That's a pretty dark documentary.

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by Grumpy David » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:36 am

lex-man wrote:
KK wrote:There’s a Panaroma special tonight at 8:30pm on BBC1 about racial segregation in Blackburn that might be worth watching.


That's a pretty dark documentary.



I felt it didn't really offer a solution to improve integration or explanation as to why the demographics were so skewed depending on what part of Blackburn you are in?

One half of Blackburn is almost exclusively white whilst the other half is almost exclusively Pakistani Muslim or North West Indian Muslim ("Asian" is deliberately vague since that's Turkey all the way to Japan).

It's a depressing sight. Not diversity, but legalised segregation. Not exclusive to Blackburn either.

Kids playing sports together probably helps to an extent, but the Muslim former police officer's point about the Muslim schools makes a lot of sense to me too.

Short of basically making the state no longer fund Islamic schools in Blackburn thereby forcing parents to send their kids to Non Islamic state schools where they'd mix with white children, it's hard to see a long term "organic" fix.

The young guy who in the previous episode 10 years ago got stares from the other Muslim neighbours for walking with a white female friend reminded me of myself. I never once felt stared at when out with my Bangladeshi Muslim girlfriend, but she felt stared at by other South Asians. Guess I am just unobservant.

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by Knoyleo » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:46 am

Grumpy David wrote:Short of basically making the state no longer fund Islamic schools in Blackburn thereby forcing parents to send their kids to Non Islamic state schools where they'd mix with white children, it's hard to see a long term "organic" fix.

There has to be a better way to say that.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by lex-man » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:53 am

They were faith schools weren't they. Personally I'd ban all faith schools.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by Lagamorph » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:35 am

I'm not sure banning faith schools outright is the best approach, however they shouldn't receive any state funding and should probably be subject to more rigorous and regular inspections than state schools.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by Drumstick » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:08 am

I'll have to resort to catch up to see this as my Sky box was on the blink all of yesterday, but if these faith schools have been created and Muslims in Blackburn prefer to send their kids to said faith schools instead of the existing state schools, doesn't that suggest that they are pro-segregation? Or was that the point? :shifty:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by Dual » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:26 am

Yes. They have segregated themselves from the rest of the community.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 4
by captain red dog » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:51 am

How much should you intervene though. This feels like both communities choosing not to integrate and I suspect forced integration could make things a lot worse.

On the subject of faith schools, are Islamic schools doing something different to C of E schools? We have just been looking at schools for our son and to be honest I found it difficult to tell C of E schools apart from normal state schools, how are Islamic schools different?


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