Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:50 pm
by Saint of Killers
twitter.com/nick_gutteridge/status/996778623700033536
You could say that he was really in the thick of it.
My original line to go with that post: I really need to get around to watching The Thick of It.
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 7:01 pm
by KK
BBC Panorama: Police Under Pressure worth watching on iPlayer, looking at falling police numbers and rising crime.
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 7:05 pm
by OrangeRKN
KK wrote:BBC Panorama: Police Under Pressure worth watching on iPlayer, looking at falling police numbers and rising crime.
Caught most of it last night on the TV, it felt like a Judge Dredd prequel in parts, what with the limited capacity to deal with crime and only responding to a small percentage
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 7:13 pm
by KK
I looked at my street and surrounding area and noticed that nothing has been solved for 2 years. Everything is either “under investigation” or case closed, “no suspect identified”.
More people have fitted HD cameras and ADT alarms down my street.
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:50 am
by Lotus
My heart bleeds for the bookies.
William Hill only made £300 million in profit in 2017 - how will they cope if that halves like they're saying it will.
Better close those stores and put people out of work rather than risk lower dividends for the shareholders.
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 1:57 pm
by KK
Commons Speaker John Bercow has acknowledged that "strong and differing views were expressed" in the House of Commons, after claims he called a cabinet minister "a stupid woman".
The Daily Telegraph reported he made the comments about Commons Leader Andrea Leadsom under his breath.
Mr Bercow's office said it would not comment on "suggested accounts of private conversations".
No 10 said the remarks, if proven to be true, would be "unacceptable".
Downing Street said that if an official complaint was made, it should be properly investigated.
Mrs Leadsom said, in her role as the government's representative in Parliament, she was focused on ensuring that "anyone who is bullied or treated unfairly" was "able to come forward and have their concerns and complaints dealt with in a rigorous and fair manner".
Following the alleged incident after prime minister’s questions on Wednesday afternoon, one unnamed MP who claimed they caught Mr Bercow’s aside told the Daily Telegraph: “He said ‘stupid woman’ and went on to say either ‘f****** useless or f****** outrageous.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44163727Don’t like him at all, but...she is bloody stupid. I think we all found that out when she ran for the PM job.
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 2:02 pm
by satriales
She was trying to run into the time that had been allocated for Labour to discuss Grenfell.
Calling her stupid isn't even that nasty as far as insults go. They are clearly just gunning for Bercow.
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 2:03 pm
by Moggy
KK wrote:Commons Speaker John Bercow has acknowledged that "strong and differing views were expressed" in the House of Commons, after claims he called a cabinet minister "a stupid woman".
The Daily Telegraph reported he made the comments about Commons Leader Andrea Leadsom under his breath.
Mr Bercow's office said it would not comment on "suggested accounts of private conversations".
No 10 said the remarks, if proven to be true, would be "unacceptable".
Downing Street said that if an official complaint was made, it should be properly investigated.
Mrs Leadsom said, in her role as the government's representative in Parliament, she was focused on ensuring that "anyone who is bullied or treated unfairly" was "able to come forward and have their concerns and complaints dealt with in a rigorous and fair manner".
Following the alleged incident after prime minister’s questions on Wednesday afternoon, one unnamed MP who claimed they caught Mr Bercow’s aside told the Daily Telegraph: “He said ‘stupid woman’ and went on to say either ‘f****** useless or f****** outrageous.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44163727Don’t like him at all, but...she is bloody stupid. I think we all found that out when she ran for the PM job.
Bercow does sound like a bullying twat.
But you are right, Leadsom is a bloody stupid woman. You'd think that she would be better at this seeing as she is a mother.
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 2:28 pm
by Vermilion
It's not Bercow's place to tell her that though, as speaker he should be above throwing insults around.
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 2:30 pm
by Moggy
Vermilion wrote:It's not Bercow's place to tell her that though, as speaker he should be above throwing insults around.
He should be.
But she is a bloody stupid woman.
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 2:43 pm
by Vermilion
Moggy wrote:But she is a bloody stupid woman.
Well yes, but we already knew that anyways.
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 2:50 pm
by Moggy
Vermilion wrote:Moggy wrote:But she is a bloody stupid woman.
Well yes, but we already knew that anyways.
Imagine dealing with them all on a daily basis. You have spent the whole day listening to May and Corbyn talk shite, Gove has just winked at you, Johnson is telling you about piccaninnies, Cable’s banging on about the Lib Dems being relevant, Ed Miliband has asked where he can get a sandwich and then Leadsom comes over for a chat.
I am surprised Bercow didn’t call her a hell of a lot worse than just “bloody stupid woman”.
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 3:13 pm
by Preezy
Preezy wrote:Can we get Taf in here for some expert sexism analysis please.
Tafdolphin wrote:
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:30 pm
by Tafdolphin
strawberry float, it's so hard when you agree with the sentiment expressed...but yeah. Her being a woman has nothing to do with her stupidity and shouldn't have factored into his outburst. Bercow was a recalling a common sexist trope and an admonishment of intelligence intrinsically linked to gender. So definitely sexist.
He's not strawberry floating wrong though.
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:40 pm
by Lotus
Come on, do you have to cry sexism about everything?
If he'd called her a "stupid person" that would've presumably been fine on the sexism outrage scale, but because he called her what she actually is, i.e. a woman, it's suddenly sexist?
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:43 pm
by Lagamorph
He was saying she is a woman who is stupid. That is not sexist.
It would only have been sexist if he was implying she was only stupid because she was a woman, which he clearly wasn't doing.
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:55 pm
by Tafdolphin
I was asked for an opinion. I gave one, and the reasoning behind it.
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 5:56 pm
by Squinty
Moggy wrote:Vermilion wrote:It's not Bercow's place to tell her that though, as speaker he should be above throwing insults around.
He should be.
But she is a bloody stupid woman.
Yeah, but what do you know? She's given birth to kids, have you?
Re: The Politics Thread 4
Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 6:45 pm
by Grumpy David
Fixed odds betting terminals aren't just bad for the gambling addict. They're great for criminals to easily and quickly launder large amounts of money. Very efficient method. Glad they've been reduced.