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Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:08 am
by Earfolds
Meep wrote:Given that doctors are evaluated on their performance and can even lose their career for letting a patient die from bad practice I fail to see much incentive. If doctor wants to progress, gain prestige and admiration then the best way to do it would be to have as close to a 100% survival rate as possible.

Well, in the words of Stewart Lee's cab driver, "you can prove anything with facts".

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:19 am
by Memento Mori
I would go further than the Opt-out system. Anyone who opts out, shouldn't get a new organ if they need it.

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:26 am
by Dual
Also only people who pay National Insurance.

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:57 am
by Moggy
Memento Mori wrote:I would go further than the Opt-out system. Anyone who opts out, shouldn't get a new organ if they need it.


I’d agree with that, but don’t see it passing through Parliament any time soon.

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:00 am
by Hypes
Dual wrote:Also only people who pay National Insurance.

Definitely this. Should restrict public services to anyone who opts out as well

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:37 pm
by Dual
Hyperion wrote:
Dual wrote:Also only people who pay National Insurance.

Definitely this. Should restrict public services to anyone who opts out as well


Well that's a bit far.

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:44 pm
by Lex-Man
I think it all sounds a bit far. IMO

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:00 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Don't you only pay NI if you earn over a threshold sum each year?

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:01 pm
by Earfolds
That's true. It basically only restricts the poor, and those rich enough to go private anyway.

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:02 pm
by Moggy
I assume Dual was joking and we just don’t get him.

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:06 pm
by Dual
Moggy wrote:I assume Dual was joking and we just don’t get him.


In this instance I wasn't :lol:

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:21 pm
by Moggy
Dual wrote:
Moggy wrote:I assume Dual was joking and we just don’t get him.


In this instance I wasn't :lol:


You genuinely think that the only people that should get organ transplants are those that pay national insurance?

So low earners should die?
Children should die?
The unemployed should die?
Retired people should die?
People on a career break should die?

:fp:

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:10 pm
by Squinty
Alvin Flummux wrote:Don't you only pay NI if you earn over a threshold sum each year?


£11000.

Guess who got his tax statement yesterday.

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:14 pm
by KK
Tax-free Personal Allowance is £11,500 but National Insurance is paid if you’re earning more than £8,164 (£157 a week) and for self employed it’s £6,025.

It’s all very complicated.

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:38 pm
by Dual
Moggy wrote:
Dual wrote:
Moggy wrote:I assume Dual was joking and we just don’t get him.


In this instance I wasn't :lol:


You genuinely think that the only people that should get organ transplants are those that pay national insurance?

So low earners should die?
Children should die?
The unemployed should die?
Retired people should die?
People on a career break should die?

:fp:


Yeah, I don't want my internal organs going to some health tourist freeloader.

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:17 pm
by Lagamorph
So the Labour party announced that they would allow Ken Livingston to be re-admitted.

Five hours later they announced it would be inaccurate to say Ken Livingston would be re-admitted.

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:05 pm
by Moggy
Lagamorph wrote:So the Labour party announced that they would allow Ken Livingston to be re-admitted.

Five hours later they announced it would be inaccurate to say Ken Livingston would be re-admitted.


And Ken said “Hitler”

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:05 am
by Vermilion
The hypocrisy of Labour these days really is quite something, this is a party which spends much of it's time banging on about inequality and racism, yet anti-semitism seems to be rife among their ranks.

Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:50 am
by Hypes

twitter.com/johnprescott/status/966818739177033730


Re: The Politics Thread 4

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:51 am
by Garth
I wouldn't say anti-Semitism is rife in Labour as that would suggest there's a common/widespread hostility towards Jews and I don't think there really is, I think realistically it's more likely a small number of people overall - that's still inexcusable of course and there should be punishment for anyone demonstrating such irrational and dangerous behaviour. What I reckon is common in Labour though is criticism of the Israeli government.

The fact that hatred of Jews, Muslims, and other minority groups in our society still exists shows that we really do need people out there to keep 'banging on' about equality and racism.