The Sixth Mass Extinction

YouTube · PostRe: The Sixth Mass Extinction by **Jezo** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:02 am

This isn't real life

PostRe: The Sixth Mass Extinction by **Vermilion** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:18 am

Jezo wrote:This isn't real life

It's just fantasy.

PostRe: The Sixth Mass Extinction by **Lex-Man** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:28 am

Vermilion wrote:
Jezo wrote:This isn't real life

It's just fantasy.

Easy come, easy go.

Corazon de Leon

They’ve been able to grow meat in a lab basically from scratch within the last couple of years haven’t they? Could that not drastically reduce emissions and the horrific cruelty that goes on in the farming industry?

PostRe: The Sixth Mass Extinction by **Moggy** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:34 am

Corazon de Leon wrote:They’ve been able to grow meat in a lab basically from scratch within the last couple of years haven’t they? Could that not drastically reduce emissions and the horrific cruelty that goes on in the farming industry?

The meat growing machine is powered by burning kittens.

PostRe: The Sixth Mass Extinction by **Jenuall** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:36 am

Moggy wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:They’ve been able to grow meat in a lab basically from scratch within the last couple of years haven’t they? Could that not drastically reduce emissions and the horrific cruelty that goes on in the farming industry?

The meat growing machine is powered by burning kittens.

So it's a win-win then?

Corazon de Leon

Moggy wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:They’ve been able to grow meat in a lab basically from scratch within the last couple of years haven’t they? Could that not drastically reduce emissions and the horrific cruelty that goes on in the farming industry?

The meat growing machine is powered by burning kittens.

Hmm. Interesting.

PostRe: The Sixth Mass Extinction by **Tafdolphin** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:35 am

Rightey wrote:. I can't honestly believe there are people who would deny themselves one of the greatest joys in life (having kids) because they think it will be better for the planet

We're the first people in history with both the knowledge to understand our predicament, as well as how we can try and solve it. I think it's good that people have a sense of urgency about the situation, but individuals taking such extreme measures is just crazy.

I mean, we also hate kids so there's that! :slol:

I'm not saying we're all going to die, I just think that placing the salvation of our race on the shoulders of the 1% is asking for trouble. But with the way our society is headed, with the gap between the rich and the poor at its widest since the days of the Rockefellers, that solution seems to be the only one anyone's willing to accept.

Corazon de Leon

I actually agree with that, in general.

Last edited by Meep on Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.

The problem as I see is that other forms of life are bound by the ecological niches they inhabit but this is not so in our case. We can engineer our way out of them and expand almost without limit; almost. We are still contrained by the fact that we need to live on this planet and that's a real problem. Normally if there is an extreme expansion of organisms in a single ecological niche it just causes a local break down of that particular habitat. The human ecological niche is the entire planet so the consequences are much more severe...

Meep wrote:We can engineer are way out of them and expand almost without limit; almost.

Only if we sport are troops.

Corazon de Leon wrote:They’ve been able to grow meat in a lab basically from scratch within the last couple of years haven’t they? Could that not drastically reduce emissions and the horrific cruelty that goes on in the farming industry?

If they can imitate every property of good meat - taste, texture, mouth feel, smell, flavor, grease/fat/juices etc, enable production on an industrial scale in an environmentally friendly and sustainable manner (e.g. without diverting countless tons of water from nearby aquifers), then yes, they can eliminate animal cruelty. It'll take time to make the switch though, if only because the facilities to grow the meat for consumption by billions of mouths don't exist yet.

PostRe: The Sixth Mass Extinction by **Peter Crisp** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:41 pm

It would help a lot of people stopped upgrading phones so often

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Peter Crisp wrote:It would help a lot of people stopped upgrading phones so often .

They wouldn't if they hadn't been indoctrinated by annual iPhone and Galaxy launches to expect, nay demand, a new phone every year.

PostRe: The Sixth Mass Extinction by **Vermilion** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:29 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:It would help a lot of people stopped upgrading phones so often .

I upgraded mine this week, though that was because my 4 year old handset decided to die on me. :cry:

My new Samsung J5 is lovely though.

PostRe: The Sixth Mass Extinction by **Green Gecko** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:22 pm

I think a major aspect that doesn't get a mention is how less well off countries are beholden to the production of for example grain, wood, meat, certain mineral mining and such because other generally more powerful nations are dependent on them. But if those products go away then they will have no means to live and that is how it has been for hundreds if not thousands of years. And so the demand for that unless it literally ends everywhere will simply move around because those people are always going to need to eat. Part of the reason we have ecologically unfriendly markets is because sometimes it's the only thing people can offer to survive. So those markets need to not just end but be replaced with something else, which is an extremely difficult ask.

PostRe: The Sixth Mass Extinction by **Roonmastor** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:37 pm

I think a collegue of mine came up with the smartest solution which is we have no chance of converting the population to vegetarianism which is what needs to happen. But we should instead bring all our children up this way as they wouldn't know better.

It'd drift back to us oldies that way too.

Meat and my Japan flights kicked me up to 164%. My Bulb power generation wasn't good enough to save me. Will get a hybrid for my next car in 9m but a full electric I don't have the right mentality to own. I'd end up stranded all the time. Will try and reduce my meat intake but it ain't easy!

PostRe: The Sixth Mass Extinction by **Meep** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:00 pm

I'm not sure about electric cars. My plan is get a job convenient for rail travel and put the car on third-party domestic and pleasure insurance for the odd chore or day trip on the weekend. This would be as much for my sake as the environment. I hate driving the long commute everday and would much rather spend half an hour reading a book on the train instead.

PostRe: The Sixth Mass Extinction by **Ecno** » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:26 pm

Mildly inspired by this thread (and because I've always fancied trying it), I went for the vegetation option at Nandos earlier today Sweet Potato and Butternut. The taste was fine. (though not quite as good as chicken, but I could live with it), but the nutritional value was quite a bit worse, more calories, more sugars and less protein, which is a bit of an issue.

I did that calculator thing too, I came out at 51%. But I'm a hermit at the moment, because I do all of my work and production at home and post or drop things off locally.

Get the bus/train occasionally but apart from that I'm super green, as far as that kind of tool can determine, woop.

Did find out however that my provider doesn't disclose its energy origins (so maybe it is nuclear generated at night or something lol).

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