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Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:47 pm
by Eighthours
Ad7 wrote:The mrs is out tonight...which means....
I get to watch that Shatner captains film
Let us know what you think of the Avery Brooks segments. Guy be mental, yo.
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:49 pm
by SEP
Eighthours wrote:Ad7 wrote:The mrs is out tonight...which means....
I get to watch that Shatner captains film
Let us know what you think of the Avery Brooks segments. Guy be mental, yo.
I saw that a while ago. Guy's completely flipped.
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 6:25 pm
by Victor Mildew
strawberry float me Shatnr, let Patrick finish the questions you're asking him ffs
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 12:01 am
by Cuttooth
If a transporter retains a copy of a person every time they use it, why does anyone need to die on away missions?
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:00 pm
by Lagamorph
Cuttooth wrote:If a transporter retains a copy of a person every time they use it, why does anyone need to die on away missions?
Transporters don't work that way.
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:16 pm
by Mogster
Lagamorph wrote:Cuttooth wrote:If a transporter retains a copy of a person every time they use it, why does anyone need to die on away missions?
Transporters don't work that way.
Indeed. There is a pattern buffer that temporarily stores the transported person's, well, pattern, but that buffered pattern becomes the real thing once they're re-materialised. It's not a copy of the person, it actually is the person.
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:21 pm
by Lagamorph
Mogster wrote:Lagamorph wrote:Cuttooth wrote:If a transporter retains a copy of a person every time they use it, why does anyone need to die on away missions?
Transporters don't work that way.
Indeed. There is a pattern buffer that temporarily stores the transported person's, well, pattern, but that buffered pattern becomes the real thing once they're re-materialised. It's not a copy of the person, it actually is the person.
And if they aren't re-materialised fast enough the pattern quickly degrades and is lost forever. You're talking maybe 1-2 minutes at max that a pattern can be stored safely, after that it starts degrading and if it degrades by anything more than about 15-20% then the person is basically dead as there isn't enough information to reconstruct them.
The only exception to this was Montgomery Scott finding a way to suspend himself in a Transporter buffer for decades.
Can you tell I bought the Star Trek Fact Files when I was a kid? I still have tons of the binders at my parents house.
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:25 pm
by Mogster
Lagamorph wrote:Can you tell I bought the Star Trek Fact Files when I was a kid? I still have tons of the binders at my parents house.
I got those! I got bloody loads of the things though, although my brother went one better by sticking it out for the whole lot. They were pretty awesome really.
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:31 pm
by Lagamorph
Mogster wrote:Lagamorph wrote:Can you tell I bought the Star Trek Fact Files when I was a kid? I still have tons of the binders at my parents house.
I got those! I got bloody loads of the things though, although my brother went one better by sticking it out for the whole lot. They were pretty awesome really.
I loved the way they were written as if they were actually from the Star Trek universe and everything in them was real
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:56 pm
by Mogster
Lagamorph wrote:Mogster wrote:Lagamorph wrote:Can you tell I bought the Star Trek Fact Files when I was a kid? I still have tons of the binders at my parents house.
I got those! I got bloody loads of the things though, although my brother went one better by sticking it out for the whole lot. They were pretty awesome really.
I loved the way they were written as if they were actually from the Star Trek universe and everything in them was real
Yup. I always thought the episode guides were a bit out of place in that respect, although they were great too.
I was obsessed with the ships at the time, so my favourite bits were always the ship diagrams, bridge layouts and stuff. Thinking back though I think the writers were getting pretty desperate for subjects towards the end, with all sorts of minor characters and tech getting dedicated articles. Can't fault them for being completists I guess!
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 8:00 pm
by TheTurnipKing
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:Eighthours wrote:Ad7 wrote:The mrs is out tonight...which means....
I get to watch that Shatner captains film
Let us know what you think of the Avery Brooks segments. Guy be mental, yo.
I saw that a while ago. Guy's completely flipped.
If someone were to tell me that all the talk of prophets, angels and bullshit that turned up in DS9 were simply Avery Brooks ad-libbing and the normal Trek-writers working around him, I don't think I'd disbelieve it.
It would also go a long way to explaining why Star Trek fell off a cliff after he left.
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 9:19 pm
by Lagamorph
TheTurnipKing wrote:Somebody Else's Problem wrote:Eighthours wrote:Ad7 wrote:The mrs is out tonight...which means....
I get to watch that Shatner captains film
Let us know what you think of the Avery Brooks segments. Guy be mental, yo.
I saw that a while ago. Guy's completely flipped.
If someone were to tell me that all the talk of prophets, angels and bullshit that turned up in DS9 were simply Avery Brooks ad-libbing and the normal Trek-writers working around him, I don't think I'd disbelieve it.
It would also go a long way to explaining why Star Trek fell off a cliff
after he left.
By ironically falling off a cliff.
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:04 pm
by Hexx
It's never going to happen, but a proper DS9 remaster would amazing
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:15 pm
by Lagamorph
DS9 is a lot harder to remaster than TNG unfortunately.
TNG was almost all model shots, whilst DS9 used a lot of CG for space shots, so you would basically have to re-do all of it which would make it cost way more than it was worth to do it.
Voyager has the same issue really.
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:12 pm
by Hexx
https://www.cbr.com/rene-auberjonois-obituary/Veteran actor and singer René Auberjonois has passed away at the age of 79.
Per The Hollywood Reporter, Auberjonois died in his Los Angeles home today -- Sunday, Dec. 8 -- following a battle with metastatic lung cancer. The actor's passing was confirmed by his son, Remy Auberjonois.
Awww
Wouldn't go so far as to say the best Star Trek actor - but certainly in the very small top tier.
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:19 pm
by Tafdolphin
Noooooo.
That's terrible. I just started following him on insta too.
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:39 pm
by SEP
Marina Sirtis' husband passed away in his sleep last night, too.
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:50 pm
by Peter Crisp
Odo was an amazing character and it's impossible to imagine DS9 without him.
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:50 am
by Tafdolphin
I've had DS9 on a lot in the background whilst playing Destiny and Odo is undoubtedly the best character, and Auberjonois did an amazing job with him.
Genuinely saddened by this.
Re: The Star Trek Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:11 am
by Squinty
His relationship with Quark is one of the best things about DS9. And he has a nicely written, long-term storyline.
I was so sad when I heard about Rene passing away. Felt the same about Aron as well.
I've also been watching DS9 episodes in no particular order recently. Watched A Call to Arms the other night, love that whole story arc. Sacrifice of Angels is one of the best episodes.
Gul Dukat