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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Floex » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:44 am

I could maybe get behind offing Rick but you have ZERO people to replace him. I don't think Daryl can carry this show on his own.

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Alvin Flummux » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:50 am

Daryl barely speaks in the episodes where he's the protagonist. I really don't think that's a great trait for carrying a show.

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Albert » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:36 pm

more heat than light wrote:
KjGarly wrote:
more heat than light wrote:Rick is just completely unlikable at this point. They'd be better off just killing him off, at least that would give a bit of shock value. Put Michonne in charge before she becomes the novelty sidekick that she is turning into, centre the action around Daryl since he's the most entertaining character. Hell it might even make Coral and his psycho kid schtick a tad more believable.

But oh, wait, we've got to pander to the comic book fans who live and die for this bullshit. Those folk who accept the tales of a man and his tiger and old facemelting psycho Negan. Sticking to source material is fine until it ends up as bad as this. This show would do well to grow a pair of balls and find it's own path.


Problem with that is when they stick to the source material it's good and when they make new gooseberry fool up like the strawberry floating cabbage patch kids it's absolutely shite.


Yeah but those people are obviously comic book influenced. The comic has the group continually meeting ever more ludicrous groups of people. This works fine in that format as it's difficult to convey more subtle drama, but on a TV show it just comes across as daft. I've said before that it is ridiculous how many cults we have come across, and that it would work much better as a group of people just trying to survive. The comic book fans keep going on about how they're looking forward to The Whisperers but I take one look on Google and go 'oh goody, an even more far-fetched, stupid group of people.

People complain about the second series of TWD, but despite being slow paced that's the kind of drama that I imagined this show would have. It's lost any sense of realism at this point and just seems to be a procession of baddie groups for Rick and chums to do battle against.


[spoilerJ]ust you wait till they get to the village of the robots. Then you will change your tune. [/spoiler]

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Albert » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:37 pm

Also Daryl is gooseberry fool. Back in the 80's he may have been considered cool. Snake Plissken would have still kicked his arse

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Poncho » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:52 pm

Moggy wrote:Rick is supposed to be the hero but he really comes across as the bad guy sometimes.

"It's ok we planted all of the explosives just outside of your village, we held an unloaded gun to your leader's head and then we took all of your weapons after forcing your leader's granddaughter to knock her out. WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS!!!"

Negan is a banana split, but at least he is having fun doing it.


This idea that everyone eventually becomes a Negan (just depends where on the scale you currently sit that determines how good or 'less bad' you are), is one of the main themes of the show now, but it's just done with zero subtlety or finesse.

The last scene of this week's episode was such a lazy 'Hang on, maybe Rick is also bad! Like Negan! The bad guy!' moment.

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Moggy » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:55 pm

Poncho wrote:
Moggy wrote:Rick is supposed to be the hero but he really comes across as the bad guy sometimes.

"It's ok we planted all of the explosives just outside of your village, we held an unloaded gun to your leader's head and then we took all of your weapons after forcing your leader's granddaughter to knock her out. WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS!!!"

Negan is a banana split, but at least he is having fun doing it.


This idea that everyone eventually becomes a Negan (just depends where on the scale you currently sit that determines how good or 'less bad' you are), is one of the main themes of the show now, but it's just done with zero subtlety or finesse.

The last scene of this week's episode was such a lazy 'Hang on, maybe Rick is also bad! Like Negan! The bad guy!' moment.


Rick turned full bad guy a season or two ago when he (unprovoked) attacked and murdered an outpost of the Saviours. Sure Negan was a banana split with the baseball bat, but in this conflict, there is far more blood on Rick's hands.

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Garth » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:58 am

Finale:
That seemed pretty amateurish TBH, the fight scenes were awful. It even looked like Tara shot Rosita, lol. The music didn't fit either. The twists came from a mile away, the coffin was a bizarre thing to do and felt like a really contrived "surprise" zombie Sasha attack (another drawn out character death). The Kingdom riding in with the "not this day" speech was downright ridiculous. Still hate the garbage people, why can't they just talk properly? They were unbelievably incompetent as well, they had everyone in Alexandria at gunpoint but managed to lose control of the situation - lolwut. There were so many things that could've been done better. A poorly made finale for the worst season of the show so far IMO, I genuinely loled at the stupidity of it. Walking Dead used to be better than this.

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Albert » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:43 pm

Must resist spoilers.

Is the finale any good?

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by chalkitdown » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:09 pm

Albear wrote:Must resist spoilers.

Is the finale any good?


No.

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Albert » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:13 pm

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by PurplePenguin » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:21 pm

Well that was shite.

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Ironhide » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:25 pm

I sort of liked it although I was expecting far more casualties in Rick's group, the fact that only Sasha died was a bit unrealistic, Rosita should have been killed and probably the useless vicar whose name I can't remember too as they're both awful characters.

Actually laughed out loud at the tiger bit.

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Garth » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:12 pm

Currently 77% on rotten tomatoes for the finale, looks like this is so far the "least fresh" season though not many reviews:
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_walking_dead

US viewing figures have dropped by a couple of million compared to season 6:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walking_Dead_(season_6)#Ratings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walking_Dead_(season_7)#Ratings

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Glowy69 » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:32 pm

Albear wrote:Must resist spoilers.

Is the finale any good?


Yes.

Fabian Delph is a banana split.

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by D_C » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:32 pm

I liked it.

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Crimson » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:54 pm

That was awful. It's remarkable how little plot progression there's been across 16 episodes. Another season of Negan bullshit. :dread:

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by more heat than light » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:16 pm

So, what's actually changed since the start of the season? What a waste of time. At least we had a hilarious gooseberry fool CG tiger moment.

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Floex » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:17 pm

I didn't mind it but this season has gone no where and the finale continued down that path.

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Poser » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:42 pm

Whose was the figurine?

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PostRe: The Walking Dead on AMC - Season 7
by Victor Mildew » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:54 pm

Absolute terrible finale :lol:

when the third Abraham flash sideways came one we both said, "oh strawberry float OFF".

The tiger :lol: :lol: so now we've got Stealth cg Tony the tiger coming in out of strawberry floating nowhere :fp: :lol: :lol: How far back did it run from?! All those saviours stood there and not one clocked jar jar binks running at them :lol: Love how Tony also selectively attacked only the saviours and didn't maul anyone else by accident. King Ralf's speech was also terribly acted and completely out of place. You could tell they were going for an Aaragorn BUT IT IS NOT THIS DAY moment, but what they actually got was the first part of this:




Negan, for the love of, just KILL RICK NOW ffs. Just do it. Now. Because now we have the zombie version of this:



did ANYONE actually think Michone died? :fp: :lol:

This strawberry floating show. Litterally a gooseberry fool show.

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