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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE Survivor Series
by Return_of_the_STAR » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:53 pm

KK wrote:I've only just realised Bray Wyatt (in drag) vs The Demon went nowhere.


Oh yeah, how strange.

Also just watched SD. Why the hell have they put a copycat of Paige’s faction on SD. You even have a pasty white one (ruby) who was stood in the middle most of the time.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE Survivor Series
by captain red dog » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:28 pm

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BAKA wrote:I guess this Women's Royal Rumble match is a cert.


Would love for this to happen, but not at the Royal Rumble itself. It could work, but I think the "main" Rumble should stand alone. It would make a great selling point for the final hour of a Raw

I say trial it on the preshow. I think it's getting to the stage though where they could really ditch 205 Live and have a full on women's show. It's a massive risk, but with Charlotte and Alexa leading the division I feel it would be miles stronger than 205.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE Survivor Series
by Skippy » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:35 am

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BAKA wrote:I guess this Women's Royal Rumble match is a cert.


Would love for this to happen, but not at the Royal Rumble itself. It could work, but I think the "main" Rumble should stand alone. It would make a great selling point for the final hour of a Raw

I say trial it on the preshow. I think it's getting to the stage though where they could really ditch 205 Live and have a full on women's show. It's a massive risk, but with Charlotte and Alexa leading the division I feel it would be miles stronger than 205.


The tricky thing is a first ever women's rumble needs to be and should be treated like a massive deal. It won't headline the Rumble event though, and putting on immediately before would be mistake. It could kick off the PPV, but I think the preshow would be a mistake.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE Survivor Series
by Lucien » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:05 pm

Watched Survivor Series last night and thought it was really good. Only downside was it was too predictable whilst watching. Expected RAW to win overall before the event and I didn't think for a second they would lose (except when HHH looked to switch sides actually).

I don't know if they planned to use Kurt at Wrestlemania, but the guy seemingly can't go any more. He looks a little out of it at the best of times while not wrestling. I would expect a two-on-two at Mania with Kurt and Jason Jordan facing HHH and... someone. If they make it a free for all hardcore match or something they could get by.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE Survivor Series
by KK » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:05 pm

Dave Meltzer getting into an argument with the editor of the Wrestling Sheet (which has come out of nowhere in recent months to get a lot of scoops):





JBL meanwhile not happy with WWE (he has us blocked on Twitter btw, despite never having had any interaction with him, or following...he must search himself ALL THE TIME):

Hey @WWE you sure this list is complete? Might should check your facts. Leave a Wrestling God off the list?

I win US Title, Intercontinental Title, Tag Titles and WWE Title-Grand Slam Champion, and @WWE puts out a list and omits me? Come on man!

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE Survivor Series
by BAKA » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:24 pm

Gutted to be missing Starcade tonight. Bewildering decision not to put it on the Network.

I'm watching SummerSlam 2013. After seeing a few people rank Styles vs. Lesnar at Survivor Series below Punk vs. Lesnar at SummerSlam 2013, I thought I better check it out. I've actually seen very few of Punk's matches, but it was definitely as good as I'd been led to believe. Still wouldn't rank it above a couple of his matches with Angle ('Mania and that Iron Man match). But clearly the best of his current run.

The squash matches do nothing to hype Lesnar for me, but his recent matches with Joe and Styles have rekindled my interest. At least until the next terribly booked or lazy couple of matches.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE Survivor Series
by Lucien » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:27 pm

Nobody can legitimately think Ric Flair is anywhere near the Rock when it comes to being a pop icon. The Rock and Hogan are the two biggest recognizable stars without a doubt.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE Survivor Series
by KK » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:39 pm

I think the test is if you can ask your grandparents, parents, a person who never watches wrestling/subject matter and somebody under the age of 15 and they know who they are, they’ve transcended the profession they’re originally from. The Rock and Hulk Hogan are definitely those two people. The likes of Ric Flair, Randy Savage, John Cena, The Undertaker, Triple H and Steve Austin tend to fail with at least one of those groups. Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks are another two that would probably fail the teenage test.

I think it’s more an age/lapsed fan thing, but even to this day I find everyone knows the WWF, whereas not everyone knows the WWE. I still occasionally type or say WWF on autopilot. Probably helps that WWF also rolls off the tongue in a way WWE never has. My uncle once called the logo “WW” and I tried to explain to him why the E was completely absent in the logo but not the name.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:53 am

I just realised that they are going to do title v title at mania (Brock V Reigns) aren't they.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III
by captain red dog » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:40 pm

Ric Flair in the 80s probably was one of those names that transcended the industry. But there is no argument that Rock is more famous today, as is Hulk Hogan to a smaller degree, because they got fame outside of wrestling.

That doesn't diminish Flair as a wrestler, he is miles above Rock and Hogan when it comes to the wrestling industry exclusively.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE Survivor Series
by Mistletooth » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:51 pm

KK wrote:My uncle once called the logo “WW” and I tried to explain to him why the E was completely absent in the logo but not the name.

Actually why is that? Couldn't they have just added a line to the F or did the WWF really just smash them in that court case?

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III
by KK » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:12 pm

I can't say I remember reading any explanation as to why there isn't an E on the end. I can only guess they preferred it with both lines taken off than one added on (that would have overlapped with the red scratching underneath). But then there is also another strange quirk with the new logo as well:

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The red isn't properly aligned. There must be a design reason for it, but it does look a bit strange.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III
by Mafrozen » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:56 pm

So they're finally going with the Broken Matt Hardy thing then.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III
by Slimgrady » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:38 pm

When it was the WWF, the name of the company was World Wrestling Federation Entertainment inc., so when the whole “get the F out” thing happened that’s exactly what they did, just putting more of an emphasis on the Entertainment word after. Makes sense too, it’d be strange having it just be called World Wrestling or WW.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III
by Return_of_the_STAR » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:33 pm

http://www.skysports.com/wwe/news/14203/11148570/daniel-bryan-told-he-can-wrestle-as-wwe-investigate-doctors-reports

Brie Bella says her husband Daniel Bryan has been cleared by several doctors to return to wrestling and that WWE are examining their findings.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III
by Mafrozen » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:34 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:http://www.skysports.com/wwe/news/14203/11148570/daniel-bryan-told-he-can-wrestle-as-wwe-investigate-doctors-reports

Brie Bella says her husband Daniel Bryan has been cleared by several doctors to return to wrestling and that WWE are examining their findings.

But has he been cleared by the WWE's own super special doctors?

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III
by SugarDave » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:04 pm

I always thought the E was represented by just picturing the W rotated 90 degrees. Although that sounds a lot dumber when I actually type it.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III
by captain red dog » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:08 pm

Mafro wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:http://www.skysports.com/wwe/news/14203/11148570/daniel-bryan-told-he-can-wrestle-as-wwe-investigate-doctors-reports

Brie Bella says her husband Daniel Bryan has been cleared by several doctors to return to wrestling and that WWE are examining their findings.

But has he been cleared by the WWE's own super special doctors?

I think WWE may have been subconsciously glad that their doctors didn't want Bryan to wrestle as he clearly wasn't the guy they wanted to push. Given WWE's own record with wellness and pushing stars through injuries, I'd have more faith in Bryan's personal doctors. Plus Bryan seems a smart guy when it comes to healthy living.

This would present a dilemma for WWE as they clearly want to be pushing their own idea of a superstar. But for me, AJ Styles vs Bryan at Mania for the WWE title is the absolute best match they could book out of the current roster.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III
by PES Fan » Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:30 pm

captain red dog wrote:
Mafro wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:http://www.skysports.com/wwe/news/14203/11148570/daniel-bryan-told-he-can-wrestle-as-wwe-investigate-doctors-reports

Brie Bella says her husband Daniel Bryan has been cleared by several doctors to return to wrestling and that WWE are examining their findings.

But has he been cleared by the WWE's own super special doctors?

I think WWE may have been subconsciously glad that their doctors didn't want Bryan to wrestle as he clearly wasn't the guy they wanted to push. Given WWE's own record with wellness and pushing stars through injuries, I'd have more faith in Bryan's personal doctors. Plus Bryan seems a smart guy when it comes to healthy living.

This would present a dilemma for WWE as they clearly want to be pushing their own idea of a superstar. But for me, AJ Styles vs Bryan at Mania for the WWE title is the absolute best match they could book out of the current roster.


Let’s not turn this into a silly conspiracy theory that Vince wanted Bryan retired.

Vince has hired rivals and people he has despised in the past just so they can make him money. Shareholders wouldn’t also respond kindly to this sort of behaviour as Bryan was a draw.

I’m sure Vince would prefer Bryan could wrestler so he can make Roman look strong..

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III
by Slimgrady » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:43 pm

Personally I’d love to see Bryan’s comeback match be against the Miz.

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