The Wrestling Thread III: Bruno Sammartino R.I.P. 1935 – 2018

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by Corazon de Leon » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:06 am

KK wrote:I was thinking you still have the weather excuse, but they’re doing WrestleMania outdoors in New York again next year. It’s freezing.


It was absolutely fine at WM29 - got a bit chilly at the end of the event but was about 16 degrees for most of it IIRC.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by Johnny Ryall » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:03 am

Disappointed they're doing this event in a place that won't let women perform

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:12 am

I swear coach is getting worse on commentary. He clearly does little background research.

I wonder why Authors of pain dumped Ellering. Also I had no idea that they were not brothers. Not even related in anyway.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:32 am

Raw was good. I’m saying good because it will be better than probably every raw for the next year. However really it was a bit disappointing. The problem with the raw after mania is you now expect something big, something major storyline wise. When you don’t really get that it just feels a bit flat. Even though they can’t always have a return as big and shocking as Brock Lesnar. As a show though it was still watchable throughout.

The commentary though is becoming woeful. They constantly mishear or misunderstand each other and don’t appear to be on the same wave lengths. Coach seems to try to educate Graves all the time when Graves is the most up to speed on the product, storylines and the gimmicks. Twice coach last night felt the need to tell graves that they were hearing soccer chants when they were singing ‘hey Bayley’ and ‘walk with elias’. Even saying something along the lines of ‘you may not know this Corey but this is a well known soccer chant like you may hear at Barcelona’.

Edit. I should add that it was interesting to see Paige retire. You assume this was planned as she said she wanted to do it in New Orleans which made her comment on camera at wrestlemania look all the more uneasy that she would be in the women’s battle royal next year.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by KK » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:42 am

Bit of a strange ending to RAW; the show just kinda petered out in the last half hour. Just a bog standard 6 man tag, albeit with a returning Jeff Hardy.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:54 am

KK wrote:Bit of a strange ending to RAW; the show just kinda petered out in the last half hour. Just a bog standard 6 man tag, albeit with a returning Jeff Hardy.


It would have made more sense for hardy to have returned in the last segment to give it a boost. The miz and crew could have attacked Seth and Finn earlier. Angle could have made a 6 man tag match for later and told them that he had the perfect partner in mind for Seth and Finn, and left the audience hanging. They could have saved the interaction with bray and Matt for next week.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:07 pm

Johnny Ryall wrote:Disappointed they're doing this event in a place that won't let women perform


Can’t remember if they are allowed to compete in full bodysuits or just not at all. But either way I disagree with wwe going there at all.

Banks and bliss competed in Abu Dhabi last year but had to wear full bodysuits. It was good as I didn’t get turned on by a glimpse of an elbow.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by BAKA » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:16 pm

Caught up with the highlights. I'm glad they've essentially retconned the mockery of the tag team division, but putting the two best teams (Revival & Gallows and Anderson) against each other in the first round makes you feel like they still have no idea what they're doing. I'm assuming (/hoping) Gallows and Anderson might be heading to SD via the shake-up next week, which would explain that.

Reigns' speech was interesting, he literally planted the seed he only lost because of Lesnar politicking, and signing a new deal. It'll be curious when it eventually all comes out. I wonder how much Dana's comments being picked up by the mainstream media affected anything, if that was always the plan, or if changes were made because of it. I also wonder how long this new deal is. I could see it being short term, six months or so, dropping the title to Reigns and/or putting Lashley over.

A predictable set of call ups, even No Way Jose, he seemed to follow the path Elias did to a call up.

I liked the crowd and how funny the show was. Detested even in the highlights we heard multiple times about the zany after 'Mania Raw crowd.

I'm curious to see SmackDown, I assume we'll see Asuka there. It seemed emotional for both Asuka and Charlotte, and I loved the match, but I still cannot bare the finish. Out of the entire roster, she needed it least. I genuinely think even Rousey needed it more, and it would have been a huge build up. Charlotte is literally the female Reigns, and I hate it. We're clearly building up to Rousey vs Charlotte, and I can't see Charlotte losing a single match until it happens, unless via circumstance (to drop a title in order to move a roster). Also, am I the only one who was disappointed Rousey didn't apply the arm bar to Steph's other arm, resulting in her having both arms in support for the next couple of Raw episodes?

Can't wait to see what happens with AJ and Nakamura too. I'm still very satisfied with the match, despite many people not being so. It reminded me a lot of their original match, AJ with the bad back, instead of Nakamura's arm bar into a Styles Clash we got a Kinshasa into one. I think it was two very smart people playing a long game. Anything they did in the ring would have been overshadowed by the nonsense pomp of that 'Mania.

I did very much enjoy 'Mania, but near enough everything felt inconsequential.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by captain red dog » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:17 pm

Corazon de Leon wrote:
KK wrote:I was thinking you still have the weather excuse, but they’re doing WrestleMania outdoors in New York again next year. It’s freezing.


It was absolutely fine at WM29 - got a bit chilly at the end of the event but was about 16 degrees for most of it IIRC.

It was bloody freezing at the end! A couple of dudes behind us actually had a blanket over them!

I'm really tempted to go again. It's a big ask though as we will have a 5 year old this time and Mania is so long now it may be too much for him.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by Mafro » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:40 pm

Jericho and Angle have been announced for that big Rumble.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:10 pm

Mafro wrote:Jericho and Angle have been announced for that big Rumble.


I hope the winner gets something otherwise it’s a bit pointless.

I’m thinking that Lesnars contract extension is either just for one more match in Saudi Arabia where he drops the title to Reigns or he won’t appear again until maybe summerslam.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by KK » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:06 am

Wow, Paige as new GM of SmackDown. Never saw that one coming.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by Poncho » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:11 am

Girlfriend and I were on the fence about last minute tickets to Smackdown tonight. Decided against it as we're pretty wrestled out and Raw was a good end to the trip. So obviously they announce Bryan-Styles. strawberry float's sake. :lol:

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by KK » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:13 am

Surely they’re not actually giving that away with zero build.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by BAKA » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:22 am

:shock:

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by E-Man » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:17 am

Poncho wrote:Girlfriend and I were on the fence about last minute tickets to Smackdown tonight. Decided against it as we're pretty wrestled out and Raw was a good end to the trip. So obviously they announce Bryan-Styles. strawberry float's sake. :lol:


Exact same thing happened to me. :slol:

Watching Smackdown in a bar on Bourbon Street instead.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by Mafro » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:20 am

Carmella :o :lol:

Great to see the Iconic Duo debuting :datass: :wub:

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by BAKA » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:31 am

She's definitely off to Raw next week, and likely facing Rousey at 'Mania. Seems a lock now.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: The Best RAW of the Year - 1am, Sky Sports Arena
by KK » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:33 am

Who is moving to RAW, AJ Styles or Daniel Bryan?

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: New SmackDown General Manager
by BAKA » Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:01 am

That seemed likely. Triple threat at BackLash?


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