The Wrestling Thread III: WWE SmackDown presents Battleground - Sunday, WWE Network

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: Jerry Lee Lewis Edition
by Slimgrady » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:56 pm

I don't see why WWE has to be on a sports channel over here yet in America it's on an easily accessible cable channel, just put Raw and Smackdown on Sky one and let that be that, the ratings would probably Triple(H)! I'm sure very few people couldn't care less about shows like Main Event and Superstars but if they put those on a free channel like Pick I'm sure they'd do OK too!
I wonder if WWE insisted on being on Sky Sports during contract negotiations to help with PPV buys, because only sports fans buy PPVs of course! Sky must hate the network :slol:
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: Jerry Lee Lewis Edition
by KK » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:12 am

This WWE contract has to have been an unmitigated disaster for Sky. It's cost them $150million over 5 years, contains less programming, a mix up over exclusivity of Main Event has meant they've now ended up with a lame duck show, their hourly highlight shows (which pads out a substantional part of SS5) are now all free on YouTube, and to top it off WWE RAW and SmackDown has lost 70-80% of its audience.

To put this into perspective, Sky are paying more for WWE than they are for some football rights.
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: Jerry Lee Lewis Edition
by Mafro » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:38 am

I actually thought Great Balls of Fire was this Sunday since this week's Raw totally felt like a go-home show, but there's still another week for them to mess the Joe/Lesnar feud up.
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: Jerry Lee Lewis Edition
by BAKA » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:20 pm

They've really done a great job building it up. It's such a shame it's being used as a throwaway match between Lesnar's SummerSlam feud. But at least Heyman made it sound like it'll be a proper match and not a squash with his comments during this weeks Raw. Hopefully it'll perform well for them and they'll invest more into Joe and perhaps look at continuing the feud in the future.
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: Jerry Lee Lewis Edition
by KK » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:29 pm

New Sky Sports logos:

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WWE programming could go in any of those, though I think Main Event is PPV, and Action could be the new name for Mix or a bundle job for £18. The football will have 2 channels so it's possible.

Maybe Sky will surprise us and suddenly put WWE on Mix...I don't know if the contract stipulates WWE has to be behind a paywall, though I doubt it. Main Event, Experience and WWE specials (condensed versions of Network shows and DVDs) for example moved to Mix though also air on 5. RAW highlights are on Sky 1.
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: Jerry Lee Lewis Edition
by Return_of_the_STAR » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:24 pm

KK wrote:New Sky Sports logos:

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WWE programming could go in any of those, though I think Main Event is PPV, and Action could be the new name for Mix or a bundle job for £18. The football will have 2 channels so it's possible.

Maybe Sky will surprise us and suddenly put WWE on Mix...I don't know if the contract stipulates WWE has to be behind a paywall, though I doubt it. Main Event, Experience and WWE specials (condensed versions of Network shows and DVDs) for example moved to Mix though also air on 5. RAW highlights are on Sky 1.


Would love it if WWE went onto Mix but do we know if the Mix channel is definitely going to continue?
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: Jerry Lee Lewis Edition
by KK » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:18 pm

Sky have said it will, yes. No comment on if the name is changing though. I believe Sky are issuing the specifics on Friday. All of this will be implemented by August. TV guides are saying 18th July.
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: IMPACT WRESTLING Slammiversary 15 - Monday 9pm, SpikeTV
by gaminglegend » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:04 pm

It will be interesting when they re-negotiate the TV deals in the next few years, especially in the US.

From my understanding the ratings are down, and the advertising revenue is massively down, which doesn't add up in terms of more kids/family orientated audiences should generate much bigger advertisers, which is why they do the PG route. But ultimately it seems advertisers don't believe the audience of wrestling shows actually have a high spend, so the revenue they pay is much lower if I have listened to the Observer correctly. And when you can hop onto youtube and literally see what you need without skipping to highlights, do you even need to watch Raw for 3 hours?
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: IMPACT WRESTLING Slammiversary 15 - Monday 9pm, SpikeTV
by Floex » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:52 pm

The TNA brand is officially dead.

Impact Wrestling, formerly TNA Wrestling (and, before that, NWA: Total Nonstop Action Wrestling), is set for yet another re-brand following a merger with Jeff Jarrett's Global Force Wrestling.

The re-booted company will take the GFW name as it searches for a clean break from the company that emerged from the ashes of WCW - founded by Jarrett and his father - back in 2002.

TNA, a name originally dreamed up by Vince Russo (according, at least, to Vince Russo), has been dragged through the mud in recent years following a protracted legal dispute between Billy Corgan and the brand's oft-maligned management, alongside some very public financial struggles.


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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: IMPACT WRESTLING Slammiversary 15 - Monday 9pm, SpikeTV
by Slimgrady » Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:15 pm

What a cluster strawberry float of a company.
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: IMPACT WRESTLING Slammiversary 15 - Monday 9pm, SpikeTV
by Jam-Master Jay » Sat Jul 01, 2017 5:49 pm

Wondered what came of Jarret's new promotion and it's merged with TNA. :lol:

There was a brief period of time where I much preferred TNA to WWE, but now I just can't be arsed to even follow wrestling despite WWE having some of my favourites on the roster.

I miss WCW. :(
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: IMPACT WRESTLING Slammiversary 15 - Monday 9pm, SpikeTV
by Lucien » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:31 pm

Watched the most recent Smackdown and spotted the lesser-seen face title holder. Naomi is the only face champion on the main shows. WWE really can't do "good guy" champions anymore huh? I've thought this for a while.

The two MITB winners are heels too. Of course.
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: IMPACT WRESTLING Slammiversary 15 - Monday 9pm, SpikeTV
by Floex » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:17 am

You had one in Sami Zayn but now he just seems a goof, same as Bayley.

WWE can write good babyfaces, Vince and Co can't.
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: IMPACT WRESTLING Slammiversary 15 - Monday 9pm, SpikeTV
by KK » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:38 pm

In the UK, the 19th June edition of RAW pulled in 18,000 viewers, the lowest rating in the history of RAW dating back to its UK inception in 1995, beaten by the 11am showing of Main Event (31,000).

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: IMPACT WRESTLING Slammiversary 15 - Monday 9pm, SpikeTV
by Mafro » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:46 pm

Floex wrote:You had one in Sami Zayn but now he just seems a goof, same as Bayley.

WWE can write good babyfaces, Vince and Co can't.

It doesn't help when most of their big babyfaces like Rollins, Reigns and Orton come across as total heels most of the time. They have a really hard time writing babyfaces as anything other than smarmy dicks on the main roster.
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE Great Balls Of Fire - Sunday, WWE Network
by Mafro » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:26 pm

Watching Slammiversary and still find it really funny that a roided-up NXT reject is one of TNA's top stars.

EDIT: wtf Josh Matthews wrestles now?
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE Great Balls Of Fire - Sunday, WWE Network
by KK » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:47 pm

I really do hate the look of the current IMPACT ZONE apart from the interview area backstage. It's so dark, and lacks even the production values of the Fox Sports era.

I presume there's another overhaul coming soon with the show becoming GFW: IMPACT.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE Great Balls Of Fire - Sunday, WWE Network
by Mafro » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:59 pm

Why is Low Ki's ring gear Agen 47's suit, red tie and gloves from Hitman? :lol:
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE Great Balls Of Fire - Sunday, WWE Network
by Slimgrady » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:35 pm

KK wrote: I presume there's another overhaul coming soon with the show becoming GFW: IMPACT.

Are they definitely keeping the "Impact" name/brand? I think they should make it a clean break and just start fresh with a new name, Rampage, that'd do. The main reason I'd like to see this happening is that they could sell WWE the old TNA tapes to help fund GFW going forward and the WWE could do so much with all the great footage of Angle, Styles, Joe, Roode, Sting etc. for the network. Pretty sure Vince hates Double J so I doubt he'd want to do business with him.
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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE Great Balls Of Fire - Sunday, WWE Network
by KK » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:07 am

Oh my God that Scott Steiner/Abyss tag match into a pretape.

You could watch wrestling and suspend your disbelief once...
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