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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by KK » Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:13 pm

I'm beginning to think WWE are intentionally strawberry floating with Renee Young. Put her and Dean on different shows, removed from Total Divas, and now cancelled both Talking Smack and Unfiltered.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by Slimgrady » Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:45 pm

Why are they cancelling these cheap to produce shows like unfiltered, talking smack, stone cold podcast, legends with JBL etc? Bar NXT and 205 live there's very little new programming each week, one 20 minute episode of Ride along or table for 3 after Raw every now and then isn't enough! They're more interested in funding crap like Holy Foley...god I hope that wasn't renewed.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by KK » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:06 pm

Seems like they're replacing it with more in-ring action, what with the UK show supposedly coming in a few months and the weekly Mae Young Tournament, culminating with a Live show, which I think runs for around 6-8 weeks.

The only original programming really worth watching is the WWE: 24 series, which pops up once every few months.

Personally I find the archive stuff more alluring than any of their current material. And there's still so much missing, which can be frustrating when you want to watch stuff in order (WCW Saturday Night, Main Event, Thunder, Worldwide, and Pro; WWF Shotgun, Superstars, Heat, Livewire Live...all absent).

There's a Live Kurt Angle interview coming up following RAW. I think that may be a storyline continuation though as his lover will be revealed on RAW.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by KK » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:52 pm

Incredibly both Daniel Bryan and Renee Young found out Talking Smack had been canecelled when fans on Twitter told them/PWinsider broke the story.

http://people.com/sports/wwe-talking-sm ... iel-bryan/

WWE doesn't even tell their own employees first.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by Return_of_the_STAR » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:41 pm

KK wrote:Incredibly both Daniel Bryan and Renee Young found out Talking Smack had been canecelled when fans on Twitter told them/PWinsider broke the story.

http://people.com/sports/wwe-talking-sm ... iel-bryan/

WWE doesn't even tell their own employees first.


Wow some very outspoken comments there. They clearly are not happy.

Talking smack was a great premise. I think it should have been free on YouTube.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by KK » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:27 pm

On his podcast Eric Bischoff seems to think he knows what tomorrow's Kurt Angle reveal is going to be...

"Uhh, alright Im sure Im going to be burning a bridge with this one, cause I'm not supposed to know about this. And hopefully, nobody gets into any trouble over this because leaks happen, right? But you remember the storyline with AJ [Styles] and Claire [Lynch]? WWE is ripping that off. Dixie is Claire and Kurt is AJ. Im saying the storyline, that everyone is alluding to, is shockingly familiar to AJ and Claire."

If WWE are going to start referencing TNA then they must have purchased the tape library, surely.


For those that didn't watch it (lucky you) there was a storyline in 2012 where AJ Styles was accused of having an affair with a woman called Claire Lynch (who in reality turned out to be an actress who worked Orlando studio). It was ultimately revealed that Claire had made the whole thing up.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by Slimgrady » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:34 pm

Why waste Kurt Angle on something as stupid as that? :fp:

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by Floex » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:36 pm

It's baffling :lol: If it turns out to be true, who actually cares?

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by KK » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:47 pm

I guess this is as close WWE can get in the current wrestling climate to recreating Eric Bischoff turning up in 2002. But I don't know how many of the WWE audience is going to care or know Dixie Carter. It's about 5 years too late.

Though I suppose there's potential for a few surreal moments, such as Dixie coming face to face with AJ Styles and Samoa Joe again.

To be honest it's not like anything of real interest is happening in WWE at the moment apart from Joe/Lesnar. At least this gives a central storyline, which has been missing from WWE for a very long time.

Thing is, Dixie was a terrible, terrible actress...like an older, budget Stephanie McMahon.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by gaminglegend » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:36 am

KK wrote:
I guess this is as close WWE can get in the current wrestling climate to recreating Eric Bischoff turning up in 2002. But I don't know how many of the WWE audience is going to care or know Dixie Carter. It's about 5 years too late.

Though I suppose there's potential for a few surreal moments, such as Dixie coming face to face with AJ Styles and Samoa Joe again.

To be honest it's not like anything of real interest is happening in WWE at the moment apart from Joe/Lesnar. At least this gives a central storyline, which has been missing from WWE for a very long time.

Thing is, Dixie was a terrible, terrible actress...like an older, budget Stephanie McMahon.


But the other fact is, Dixie Carter isn't known the main stream WWE audience, and audience WWE has refused to mention or acknowledge competition with it's absolutely baffling.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by SerialCeler » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:02 pm

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KK wrote:
I guess this is as close WWE can get in the current wrestling climate to recreating Eric Bischoff turning up in 2002. But I don't know how many of the WWE audience is going to care or know Dixie Carter. It's about 5 years too late.

Though I suppose there's potential for a few surreal moments, such as Dixie coming face to face with AJ Styles and Samoa Joe again.

To be honest it's not like anything of real interest is happening in WWE at the moment apart from Joe/Lesnar. At least this gives a central storyline, which has been missing from WWE for a very long time.

Thing is, Dixie was a terrible, terrible actress...like an older, budget Stephanie McMahon.


But the other fact is, Dixie Carter isn't known the main stream WWE audience, and audience WWE has refused to mention or acknowledge competition with it's absolutely baffling.


This is such a terrible idea for all the reasons you've just stated, plus the biggest one - the Claire Lynch story drew no money! Why on earth would you want to rehash a rubbish story with a terrible actress like Dixie? It's crazy

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by captain red dog » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:45 pm

Unless WWE/Vince are now confident of mentioning TNA on air or something now the brand is dead? I know he has never been keen on mentioning the competition, no matter how weak.

He is also obsessed with totally burying the opposition in victory, he probably sees this GFW rebranding as the final victory given TNA/GFW is probably below ROH in the pecking order.

I just think WWE and Vince are missing the fact that the overwhelming majority of fans never saw TNA as a serious prospect, so if this storyline is true then it will be largely irrelevant.

Interestingly though, WWE has pretty much asset stripped TNA without taking their video library. And being honest, there isn't much of their library worth owning. I do wonder though if we will get a swerve which leads to WWE rerunning their own version of Kurt vs Joe.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by KK » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:55 pm

TNA was mentioned on the Kurt Angle 24 Special on Monday, and she was also interviewed...possibly a bit of foreshadowing.

WWE did have John Cena alude to Hulk Hogan and TNA when he was with the promotion but I think this is the first time they've actually name checked the company on WWE TV.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by Slimgrady » Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:22 am

No I think they mentioned TNA on WWEs Jeff Hardy DVD they made after his return after his first run in TNA, 2010ish? TNA was also forcibly mentioned a few times on Byte this a few times back in the day. There was a nod to TNA during the first One Night Stand when Kid Kash came out and Joey Styles called him "Mr. TNA"..."Total Nonstop Attitude!", so close! So just off the top of my head TNA has been mentioned a few times on WWE programming, but not on "canon" programming like Raw or Smackdown.
Strange that Vince doesn't see ROH as competition worth avoiding, it seems they mention them freely when relevant and have even used ROH footage on DVDs, which is odd because ROH has arguably passed TNA/GFW as Americas #2 promotion.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by Skippy » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:50 am

So much for it being Dixie then :lol: Set phasers to "plans change"!

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by Floex » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:24 am

You almost wish it was Dixie from what happened last night :lol: Again, why would anyone think this is a good idea? Is Vince Russo back...

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by captain red dog » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:07 am

So they are kind of aping Ethan Carter III I guess. Hopefully this will end up more like Team Angle...

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by Mafro » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:47 am

So
they've split up American Alpha who were previously one of the best tag teams in the company, and have Jason Jordan as Angle's his son, rather than former Olympic wrestler Chad Gable.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:37 am

Mafro wrote:So
they've split up American Alpha who were previously one of the best tag teams in the company, and have Jason Jordan as Angle's his son, rather than former Olympic wrestler Chad Gable.

:lol:


:lol: I read a joke post about them using one of American alpha as kurts son yesterday. The thing is these angles never work, they always faid away and go wrong. It will either end up being forgotten, turn out that he's tricked kurt or WWE spend the next 20 years having to occasionally and awkwardly acknowledge that Jordan is kurts son when everyone knows that he's not.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: WWE programming moving to Sky Sports Arena and Action 18th July
by KK » Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:37 am

Looking at the build to this, it feels like they've thrown this one together about 10 minutes before RAW started. Worst thing is, this is all much ado about absolutely nothing. Man has son from 28 years ago, that inexplicably could cost him everything. WHAT?! 1 week removed from the WWE 24 documentary that they plugged ON RAW where he admits to his life falling apart from drugs, his Dad was an alcoholic, suffered family bereavements, and already has children by different mothers.

Apart from Kane and the Undertaker, and Edge and Christian (which they then just dropped a few years ago 'oh we're just friends'), when have these fakes relative storylines ever worked? Let alone in 2017. It always somehow crosses that line where you can't suspend your disbelief, everyone knows it's all bullshit (yes, more so than normal), and therefore it's DOA. There's this massive disconnect fans just can't get behind.

"The illegitimate son gimmick"; presumably the Claire Lynch aspect will be the mother turning up and it being revealed that Gabel isn't actually his son, obviously, and everyone looking like a bloody idiot.

This is going to require some stellar acting/comedic bants for this to work. There's something about Jason Jordan though that makes me think Vince could easily turn him into 'the dozy son', like a Beaver Cleavage. Then there was Hornswoggle, Eugene...WWE's track record here isn't great. Even Big Show groans whenever he's reminded of being Andre's son in WCW for about a year.

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