Last Night BBC2: Steve Jobs: Billion Dollar Hippy 9-10pm

Last edited by Cal on Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:44 am, edited 1 time in total.

Steve Jobs: Billion Dollar Hippy

Evan Davis traces the history of Steve Jobs' time in control at Apple, with contributions from insiders including the company's co-founder Steve Wozniak, world wide web inventor Tim Berners-Lee, branding guru Rita Clifton and Stephen Fry. The presenter hears stories of how Jobs, a college dropout, was involved in the company's rise from operating out of a suburban garage to becoming a global brand

BBC2 9pm - 10pm

Might be of some interest to a few round here.

Cal wrote:Stephen Fry.

i don't think i could sit through fry's fanboyism of apple.

"Steve Jobs: Billion Dollar Knobend" more like. Fixed that for them.

Polar Bear wrote:"Steve Jobs: Billion Dollar Knobend" more like. Fixed that for them.

Nice that the anti Jobs sentiment hasn't filtered in here already.

Oh wait!
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Hippy is possibly the most ironic term for him, seeing as he forced a walled garden on people, and only allowed in things which matched his narrow sensibilities and didn't compete against his creations. Dictator is probably a more apt word.

Kwanzaa-bot wrote:Hippy is possibly the most ironic term for him, seeing as he forced a walled garden on people, and only allowed in things which matched his narrow sensibilities and didn't compete against his creations. Dick-taster is probably a more apt word.

Kwanzaa-bot wrote:Hippy is possibly the most ironic term for him, seeing as he forced a walled garden on people, and only allowed in things which matched his narrow sensibilities and didn't compete against his creations. Dictator is probably a more apt word.

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I will definitely watch, if not live then on iPlayer, i've just got started on the biography. I'm about 3 chapters in but I'm loving how the young Steve Jobs comes across as a real, fallible, person.

Incidentally did anybody see the BBC doc. about Facebook last week? Having watched The Social Network I was expecting Zuckerberg to be socially dysfunctional with aspergers like behaviour. In reality (via my TV screen) he came across as a geeky but very normal guy with a vision.

Wicked. I'll be watching this.

Venom's Christmas Special! wrote:I will definitely watch, if not live then on iPlayer, i've just got started on the biography. I'm about 3 chapters in but I'm loving how the young Steve Jobs comes across as a real, fallible, person.

Incidentally did anybody see the BBC doc. about Facebook last week? Having watched The Social Network I was expecting Zuckerberg to be socially dysfunctional with aspergers like behaviour. In reality (via my TV screen) he came across as a geeky but very normal guy with a vision.

Holywood in "dramatising" shocker.

Venom are you 12?

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TheTurnipKing wrote:Holywood in "dramatising" shocker.

Sure I know the movie is a dramatisation!

It's just that I saw the movie before I saw Zuckerberg speak. And the portrayal of him in that is extremely introspective and uncharismatic. But I recall reading that when the movie was released he paid for the Facebook staff to have private screenings of it which I guess demonstrates that he is well balanced enough to take it in his stride.

Kwanzaa-bot wrote:Hippy is possibly the most ironic term for him, seeing as he forced a walled garden on people, and only allowed in things which matched his narrow sensibilities and didn't compete against his creations. Dictator is probably a more apt word.

massimo wrote:Wicked. I'll be watching this.

Ditto. strawberry float the haters

I hate him and Apple. I will not watch this. I am a hater.

I have nothing against him, and he achieved some remarkable things, but when I read things like this, I can't help but think he was a bit of a tool.

This is a man who ... when he was dying of cancer, ripped off the oxygen mask because the design was “too ugly”.

(Taken from Radio Times review of the documentary.)

rinks wrote:I have nothing against him, and he achieved some remarkable things, but when I read things like this, I can't help but think he was a bit of a tool.

This is a man who ... when he was dying of cancer, ripped off the oxygen mask because the design was “too ugly”.

(Taken from Radio Times review of the documentary.)

Steve Jobs was a cock. All accounts agree with that. He's still a very very talented and interesting person. And he definitely was a hippy. The Walter Isaacson biography tells of how he wouldn't shower in the 70s as he thought the diet he was on would clear the toxins in his skin. And he would walk everywhere bare foot and only wipe his feet down in the company toilet. People would refuse to work with him because of his hygiene.

Wow, surprised to see so many Jobs haters on here. I thought the opposite would be the case. I've never quite bought into the Jobsian cult of personality; the guy was a visionary, granted, and he did revolutionise so many aspects of the tech in our lives, but even as a long time Mac user (and I started off using 'em back in the late 80's) even I wasn't a fully signed-up Jobs acolyte. I always find there's something vaguely distasteful about the fawning, toadying way people react to individuals like him - witness the way armies of *ahem* jobsworths queue up on the Star Wars DVDs to praise 'George' (and see how the man himself carries on).

All leaves a nasty in the mouth, imo. It's probably as true of Lucas as it was of Jobs - they never had people around them to say 'No'.

Still, will be watching this BBC love-in (and make no mistake, Jobs was their kind of entrepreneur - hippy, counter-culture, etc) tonight. Did I ever tell you about the time I met that Evan Davis in Village, a gay bar at the top end of Compton Street? He looked so nice in his combats and his little crew-cut. The ears weren't so prominent in those days. :lol:

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