TV licence, time to scrap it?

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Should the licence fee be scrapped?

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No
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PostRe: TV licence, time to scrap it?
by Hexx » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:06 am

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Gemini73 wrote:No because I know my contribution goes towards funding fantastic shows like Planet Earth and Blue Planet


Yeah but you also fund Mrs Brown's Boys :dread:


Mrs. Brown's Boys is an Irish television sitcom created by and starring writer and performer Brendan O'Carroll and produced in the United Kingdom by BBC Scotland in partnership with BocPix and RTÉ.


Blame Scotland.


One more reason for Scoxit.

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PostRe: TV licence, time to scrap it?
by Moggy » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:10 am

Hexx wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Hexx wrote:
Gemini73 wrote:No because I know my contribution goes towards funding fantastic shows like Planet Earth and Blue Planet


Yeah but you also fund Mrs Brown's Boys :dread:


Mrs. Brown's Boys is an Irish television sitcom created by and starring writer and performer Brendan O'Carroll and produced in the United Kingdom by BBC Scotland in partnership with BocPix and RTÉ.


Blame Scotland.


One more reason for Scoxit.


Nuke Scotland until it sinks into the ocean. It’s the only way to fix the problem.

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PostRe: TV licence, time to scrap it?
by <]:^D » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:43 am

i forgot about Mrs Brown's Boys
can i change my vote?

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PostRe: TV licence, time to scrap it?
by Tsunade » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:24 am

I'd say make it so that people that aren't going to watch or listen to anything BBC related won't have to pay. We're only paying for the BBC not to show adverts anyway.

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PostRe: TV licence, time to scrap it?
by Gemini73 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:38 pm

Hexx wrote:
Gemini73 wrote:No because I know my contribution goes towards funding fantastic shows like Planet Earth and Blue Planet


Yeah but you also fund Mrs Brown's Boys :dread:


Oh crap, so it does! :dread:

Why people find that throwback to obnoxious 70s sitcoms funny is baffling.

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PostRe: TV licence, time to scrap it?
by Preezy » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:19 pm

You know what I can't strawberry floating stand? Those stupid "Oneness" intros they have on BBC programmes, where there'll be a group of mountain rescuers, or wheelchair basketball players, or roller disco enthusiasts. They all gather in front of the camera, then they stop dead for a couple of seconds and then return to whatever they were doing. It's so strawberry floating annoying, I don't understand what they're trying to do, what point they're trying to make or why these intros exist. I see gooseberry fool like that and just think "so that's where my license fee is going". Boils my piss.

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PostRe: TV licence, time to scrap it?
by <]:^D » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:20 pm

:lol: i also think theyre ridiculous. theyve been bad for ages.

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PostRe: TV licence, time to scrap it?
by Lagamorph » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:14 pm

BBC2 used to have some class intros.

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PostRe: TV licence, time to scrap it?
by Moggy » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:26 pm

Preezy wrote:You know what I can't strawberry floating stand? Those stupid "Oneness" intros they have on BBC programmes, where there'll be a group of mountain rescuers, or wheelchair basketball players, or roller disco enthusiasts. They all gather in front of the camera, then they stop dead for a couple of seconds and then return to whatever they were doing. It's so strawberry floating annoying, I don't understand what they're trying to do, what point they're trying to make or why these intros exist. I see gooseberry fool like that and just think "so that's where my license fee is going". Boils my piss.


I couldn’t give a gooseberry fool about the intros, but it grinds my boiling piss gears when BBC1HD goes to the local news and just says “we are not yet able to show the local news in HD” or whatever shite it says. Just show the strawberry floating thing in SD then! Why make me change from 115 to 101 and then back to 115 when the crappy local news has finished?

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PostRe: TV licence, time to scrap it?
by The Watching Artist » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:40 pm

Lagamorph wrote:BBC2 used to have some class intros.


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PostRe: TV licence, time to scrap it?
by KK » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:45 pm

Long term, I don't think a blanket 'TV License' fee as its currently implemented is any way sustainable (particuarly as over time more and more people will watch their TV online and on-demand).

I can't say I know anyone that doesn't make use of the BBC in some form or fashion. They'll say they dont't ('oh BBC1, more singing reality shite') but in reality they're using BBC websites, listening to the radio or watching something on iPlayer.

People moan about repeats, but sometimes I think the BBC can be hamstrung by its need to output linear programming all the time. A lot of money is wasted on attempting to produce ITV-centric light entertainment that the likes of Sky, Netflix and Amazon don't have to produce or make as much of. Money that could theoretically go into making something like Game of Thrones or The Sopranos is pissed away on wedding-themed game shows that nobody watched, Don't Scare The Hare and other inane gooseberry fool because you have to continually fill the time with something. Daytime for example, yet more rubbish (apart from that detective vicar from The Fast Show).

I wish the BBC would put their foot down with celeb pay as well. 'Market rates' is always the excuse, yet time and time again people have left and they've either died on their arse over on ITV and become less relevant or ultimately come back again. The One Show and BBC Breakfast were I thought the perfect example of presenters that thought they were bigger than the programme when they weren't. They literally meant nothing. I like Gary Lineker for example, but you could fire him tomorrow and Match of the Day wouldn't be impacted whatsoever. And more often than not you find someone new brings added life to a formulaic or stale show - whether it's Michelle Ackerley on The One Show or Mark Chapman on MOTD2/NFL Show.

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PostRe: TV licence, time to scrap it?
by Moggy » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:00 pm

KK wrote:Long term, I don't think a blanket 'TV License' fee as its currently implemented is any way sustainable (particuarly as over time more and more people will watch their TV online and on-demand).


It will be perfectly sustainable while the law says you will be fined/imprisoned for watching TV without one. That sort of threat keeps the subscriber numbers up. ;)

The trouble is, how would you fund the BBC without the licence fee? General taxation wouldn’t work, governments would just slowly cut the funding off. Subscription models wouldn’t work as people would stop paying and that would in turn cut the funding off.

People might not like being forced to pay £12 a month to watch TV, but if we want to keep our national broadcaster in a decent state then it is also essential. It would be a sad day if Planet Earth 3 was forced to compete with commercial stations like Discovery and ended up being voiced by Chris Evans and featuring Duncan Goodhew racing a CGI shark…

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PostRe: TV licence, time to scrap it?
by Preezy » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:07 pm

Playing devil's avocado here...

Moggy wrote:Subscription models wouldn’t work as people would stop paying and that would in turn cut the funding off.

It it dies, it dies. Let the market decide.

Moggy wrote:People might not like being forced to pay £12 a month to watch TV, but if we want to keep our national broadcaster in a decent state then it is also essential.

Who says we even want or need a national broadcaster? Is there even a need in this 24/7 all-content-all-the-time world?

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PostRe: TV licence, time to scrap it?
by Moggy » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:13 pm

Preezy wrote:Playing devil's avocado here...

Moggy wrote:Subscription models wouldn’t work as people would stop paying and that would in turn cut the funding off.

It it dies, it dies. Let the market decide.


It it dies? Let's scrap education as well, it obviously doesn't work. ;)

The market isn't a fair way to decide, the market is owned by rich foreign men who can squeeze anybody else out. Given a choice of having £12 a month forcibly taken from me for a (reasonably) impartial broadcaster or Rupert Murdoch bringing Fox News UK in? I'll take the TV Licence thank you very much.

Preezy wrote:
Moggy wrote:People might not like being forced to pay £12 a month to watch TV, but if we want to keep our national broadcaster in a decent state then it is also essential.

Who says we even want or need a national broadcaster? Is there even a need in this 24/7 all-content-all-the-time world?


Who says we do not want or need it? That sort of question is never a great argument as it's easy to turn around the other way.

We have 24/7 all-content-all-the-time, why can't some of that be from a national broadcaster that actually makes things of high quality?


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