[DISCUSSION] The Politics Thread

Elucidate?

Edit: That was aimed at Eighthours, although feel free tiga.

As I said before, Guardian newspaper needs to be burnt at the stakes.

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Like a witch? I don't get it.

ianf wrote:Elucidate?

The notion that the BBC leans to the right politically, is laugh-out-loud ridiculous.

Eighthours wrote:

ianf wrote:Elucidate?

The notion that the BBC leans to the right politically, is laugh-out-loud ridiculous.

It absolutely is not.

The accusation that BBC doesn’t lampoon Tories MPs is ridiculous. One only has to look at Mock the Week to see that Osborne and Cameron are the butt of most jokes every week.

ianf wrote:

Eighthours wrote:

ianf wrote:Elucidate?

The notion that the BBC leans to the right politically, is laugh-out-loud ridiculous.

It absolutely is not.

It is, though. Baffling you could think otherwise.

TigaSefi wrote:The accusation that BBC doesn’t lampoon Tories MPs is ridiculous. One only has to look at Mock the Week to see that Osborne and Cameron are the butt of most jokes every week.

As was the same when Blair and Brown were in charge. Comedians will always make fun of the politicians in charge.

Eighthours wrote:

ianf wrote:

Eighthours wrote:

ianf wrote:Elucidate?

The notion that the BBC leans to the right politically, is laugh-out-loud ridiculous.

It absolutely is not.

It is, though. Baffling you could think otherwise.

This is a terrible discussion. Is there anything specific within the article you disagree with so we can actually attempt to make some salient points?

Eighthours wrote:

ianf wrote:Elucidate?

The notion that the BBC leans to the right politically, is laugh-out-loud ridiculous.

As is the case that it also leans to the left. The one thing that has characterized the BBC in recent times is their intention of having balance in every single point so as to avoid being accused of bias. They have effectively neutered themselves.

Rex Kramer wrote:

Eighthours wrote:

ianf wrote:Elucidate?

The notion that the BBC leans to the right politically, is laugh-out-loud ridiculous.

As is the case that it also leans to the left. The one thing that has characterized the BBC in recent times is their intention of having balance in every single point so as to avoid being accused of bias. They have effectively neutered themselves.

I agree in many ways, though think that inbuilt in this observation is actually a tacit admission they are right-leaning. Such bland reporting and avoidance of any controversial topics naturally leads to a support of the status quo, which is of course inherently conservative.

HS2 is such an unambitious expensive piece of gooseberry fool.

Rex Kramer wrote:

Eighthours wrote:

ianf wrote:Elucidate?

The notion that the BBC leans to the right politically, is laugh-out-loud ridiculous.

As is the case that it also leans to the left. The one thing that has characterized the BBC in recent times is their intention of having balance in every single point so as to avoid being accused of bias. They have effectively neutered themselves.

By refusing to have opinions one way or the other you end up being right wing, because you silently support the status quo. The BBC has leanings in both direction, but considering the strong links to both the Labour and Tory parties, they'll pretty much say what the establishment want them to say. It's state TV even though they pretend to be independent.

Doctor Who's good tho'.

Skarjo wrote:Doctor Who's good tho'.

The Daily Mail wrote:Leftie nonsense.

ianf wrote:

TigaSefi wrote:The accusation that BBC doesn’t lampoon Tories MPs is ridiculous. One only has to look at Mock the Week to see that Osborne and Cameron are the butt of most jokes every week.

As was the same when Blair and Brown were in charge. Comedians will always make fun of the politicians in charge.

That is true, but it is not like they are giving Milliband an easy ride either. Have any panel shows (on any station) not taken the piss out of the current Labour leadership?

The thing with the BBC is that right wingers think it is left wing and left wingers think it is right wing. And that makes me think it is reasonably neutral.

Moggy wrote:

ianf wrote:

TigaSefi wrote:The accusation that BBC doesn’t lampoon Tories MPs is ridiculous. One only has to look at Mock the Week to see that Osborne and Cameron are the butt of most jokes every week.

As was the same when Blair and Brown were in charge. Comedians will always make fun of the politicians in charge.

That is true, but it is not like they are giving Milliband an easy ride either. Have any panel shows (on any station) not taken the piss out of the current Labour leadership?

The thing with the BBC is that right wingers think it is left wing and left wingers think it is right wing. And that makes me think it is reasonably neutral.

I'm not sure that that's an agenda so much as Milliband being a total spazz. Even if the guy talked sense, he still does it in a spazzy way.

Fatal Exception wrote:

Moggy wrote:

ianf wrote:

TigaSefi wrote:The accusation that BBC doesn’t lampoon Tories MPs is ridiculous. One only has to look at Mock the Week to see that Osborne and Cameron are the butt of most jokes every week.

As was the same when Blair and Brown were in charge. Comedians will always make fun of the politicians in charge.

That is true, but it is not like they are giving Milliband an easy ride either. Have any panel shows (on any station) not taken the piss out of the current Labour leadership?

The thing with the BBC is that right wingers think it is left wing and left wingers think it is right wing. And that makes me think it is reasonably neutral.

I'm not sure that that's an agenda so much as Milliband being a total spazz. Even if the guy talked sense, he still does it in a spazzy way.

I don’t think it is an agenda either. My point was that I think comedians and panel shows tend to take the piss out of all politicians. Cameron, Milliband, Clegg, Farage all get the piss taken out of them because they are all ridiculous characters, not because the BBC (or ITV or Channel 4 or Sky) are pushing a left/right agenda through comedy.

Fizheuer Zieheuer wrote:might i contribute stewart lee's excellent piece from last year that basically suggests that comedy is inherently left-wing...

Indeed, Clarkson’s right-wing comedy integrity was cemented in 2011 when he was described as “one of the few things worth watching on the Burqa Broadcasting Corporation (BBC)” by the Norwegian neo-Nazi mass murderer Anders Behr­ing Breivik, a man not known for his sense of humour but whose right-wing credentials are unimpeachable.

Fizheuer Zieheuer wrote:might i contribute stewart lee's excellent piece from last year that basically suggests that comedy is inherently left-wing...

That is a good article actually, strawberry floating hate Stewart Lee's stand up though.

He's so obviously a lizard-man.

The changes to the ISA are pretty awesome. Telegraph been campaigning for it for a while, didn't actually expect the changes to happen.

Is the personal threshold not going up this April for income tax? £9,440 atm, £10,500 in April 2015. No increase inbetween?

Would have liked to have seen stamp duty get fixed. It's the most insane tax we currently have.

Grumpy David wrote:The changes to the ISA are pretty awesome. Telegraph been campaigning for it for a while, didn't actually expect the changes to happen.

Is the personal threshold not going up this April for income tax? £9,440 atm, £10,500 in April 2015. No increase inbetween?

Would have liked to have seen stamp duty get fixed. It's the most insane tax we currently have.

Personal allowance goes up to £10k this April.