Unreal Engine 4

The Wii U Won't Be Getting Unreal Engine 4

I figured I'd ask straight-out, so during the Q&A with Rein, I did. "Will UE4 run on the Wii U?"

"Hahaha no." Rein said, with expert comedic timing. The room erupted with laughter. As the laughs died down, Rein continued: "I mean, sorry, it's not really a correct answer. We're not… we have Unreal Engine 3 for the Wii U. Right? And Unreal Engine 3 is powering all kinds of amazing games, still lots of games are being made with Unreal Engine 3. We announced today about a new Unreal Engine 3 license. Unreal Engine 3 doesn't disappear because of Unreal Engine 4. But our goal for Unreal Engine 4 console-wise is next-gen consoles. That's really what our energies are focused on. If you want to make a Wii U game, we have Unreal Engine 3, and it's powering some of the best games on the Wii U already.

"Nothing controversial, guys," he jokingly chided.

The implication Epic was making in revealing the Elemental demo running on PS4 development hardware was obvious - that today's cutting-edge PC tech demo is tomorrow's run-time on next-gen console hardware. Asked directly if its brand new Infiltrator demo could run on next-gen console, Epic vice president Mark Rein replied:

"Well, let's put it this way. Last year we saw the Elemental demo running on the same piece of hardware and this year we saw the Elemental running on PS4, so I'd say draw your own conclusions... The feeling around Epic on Infiltrator is that this is the pipeline, this is the way we're going to work, making games that are going to have this kind of feel to them, this much detail, this many shadows and it'll just get better and better as we optimise the engine further and further."

Garth wrote:

The Wii U Won't Be Getting Unreal Engine 4

I figured I'd ask straight-out, so during the Q&A with Rein, I did. "Will UE4 run on the Wii U?"

"Hahaha no." Rein said, with expert comedic timing. The room erupted with laughter. As the laughs died down, Rein continued: "I mean, sorry, it's not really a correct answer. We're not… we have Unreal Engine 3 for the Wii U. Right? And Unreal Engine 3 is powering all kinds of amazing games, still lots of games are being made with Unreal Engine 3. We announced today about a new Unreal Engine 3 license. Unreal Engine 3 doesn't disappear because of Unreal Engine 4. But our goal for Unreal Engine 4 console-wise is next-gen consoles. That's really what our energies are focused on. If you want to make a Wii U game, we have Unreal Engine 3, and it's powering some of the best games on the Wii U already.

"Nothing controversial, guys," he jokingly chided.

http://kotaku.com/the-wii-u-wont-be-get ... Socialflow

Unreal Engine 4 jettisons SVOGI realtime lighting for static lighting (lightmass)

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-gdc-2013-unreal-engine-4

The key differentiating factor between last year's demo and this newer iteration is that the Sparse Voxel Octree Global Illumination (SVOGI) lighting system hasn't made the cut. Instead, Epic is aiming for very high quality static global illumination with indirect GI sampling for all moving objects, including characters.

"[SVOGI] was our prototype GI system that we used for Elemental last year. And our targets, given that we've had announced hardware from Sony, that's where we're going to be using Lightmass as our global illumination solution instead of SVOGI," senior technical artist and level designer Alan Willard told Eurogamer, stressing that this new iteration of the technology has evolved significantly beyond the current-gen system used in titles like Mass Effect 3. Certainly, just the presence of so much more memory on next-gen platforms should improve lightmap quality on its own.

Is he only talking about consoles or is PC included as well? It's disappointing that Epic were unable to convince Sony and MS to up their specs to make this feasible.

Saint of Killers wrote:Swiped from GAF/EG

Unreal Engine 4 jettisons SVOGI realtime lighting for static lighting (lightmass)

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-gdc-2013-unreal-engine-4

The key differentiating factor between last year's demo and this newer iteration is that the Sparse Voxel Octree Global Illumination (SVOGI) lighting system hasn't made the cut. Instead, Epic is aiming for very high quality static global illumination with indirect GI sampling for all moving objects, including characters.

"[SVOGI] was our prototype GI system that we used for Elemental last year. And our targets, given that we've had announced hardware from Sony, that's where we're going to be using Lightmass as our global illumination solution instead of SVOGI," senior technical artist and level designer Alan Willard told Eurogamer, stressing that this new iteration of the technology has evolved significantly beyond the current-gen system used in titles like Mass Effect 3. Certainly, just the presence of so much more memory on next-gen platforms should improve lightmap quality on its own.

Is he only talking about consoles or is PC included as well? It's disappointing that Epic were unable to convince Sony and MS to up their specs to make this feasible.

Garth wrote:

The Wii U Won't Be Getting Unreal Engine 4

I figured I'd ask straight-out, so during the Q&A with Rein, I did. "Will UE4 run on the Wii U?"

"Hahaha no." Rein said

cooldawn wrote:Well...how do we know it's not feasible? Next generation hasn't even started yet.

Saint of Killers wrote:

cooldawn wrote:Well...how do we know it's not feasible? Next generation hasn't even started yet.

Because Epic have said it's not going to be part of it?

But that's not technically true, he admitted the next day, walking back his gaffe. "You heard the stupid gaffe yesterday about the Wii U," he said. "If someone wants to take Unreal Engine 4 and ship a game on Wii U, they can! If they wanna ship an Unreal Engine 4 game on Xbox 360, they could make it happen." While that game might not look as pretty as it would on a "true" next-gen console, the new engine is scalable to a variety of platforms, including mobile.

Alvin Flummux wrote:Mark Rein does a Wii U-turn...

But that's not technically true, he admitted the next day, walking back his gaffe. "You heard the stupid gaffe yesterday about the Wii U," he said. "If someone wants to take Unreal Engine 4 and ship a game on Wii U, they can! If they wanna ship an Unreal Engine 4 game on Xbox 360, they could make it happen." While that game might not look as pretty as it would on a "true" next-gen console, the new engine is scalable to a variety of platforms, including mobile.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/29/mark-rein-interview-gdc-2013/

Rik wrote:In other words Epic aren't interested but anyone else can make a Wii U UE4 game if they want. You have to wonder if Nintendo took on board any input from third parties at all.

Rik wrote:In other words Epic aren't interested but anyone else can make a Wii U UE4 game if they want. You have to wonder if Nintendo took on board any input from third parties at all.

Alvin Flummux wrote:

Rik wrote:In other words Epic aren't interested but anyone else can make a Wii U UE4 game if they want. You have to wonder if Nintendo took on board any input from third parties at all.

Nintendo has been going out of its way to attract third parties, but some are just dicks.