US Politics

How long before he pulls the US out of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty? He'll make mad $$$ selling them to the Saudis and North Koreans, amiright?

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I don't understand why would they do that? Like what difference does it make?

Trump really is doing his best to really screw the country and amazingly there are people who support him. He's pulling out of international treaties left and right and the borrowing is ballooning due to tax cuts which will strawberry float them for generations.

When these delusional Trump fans finally figure out they've been conned I'm have no idea what they'll do.

Peter Crisp wrote:Trump really is doing his best to really screw the country and amazingly there are people who support him. He's pulling out of international treaties left and right and the borrowing is ballooning due to tax cuts which will strawberry float them for generations.

When these delusional Trump fans finally figure out they've been conned I'm have no idea what they'll do.

They won't. They're "owning the libz" so they're winning

“...that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable.”

“...unless rebutted by reliable genetic evidence.”

I presume this grounded, objective, scientific, fact-based evidence will also be applied to climate change policy...

I hope this presidency is a big wake-up call for people who fell for the "both sides are the same" bollocks or couldn't vote for an imperfect candidate when the alternative was obviously far worse.

Garth wrote:I hope this presidency is a big wake-up call for people who fell for the "both sides are the same" bollocks or couldn't vote for an imperfect candidate when the alternative was obviously far worse.

But her emails....

The problem for me is that former presidents have led to a situation where people voted for Trump. Just thinking that getting somebody like Clinton in and going back to normal is what's needed will just lead to another Trump getting in again at some point down the line.

The US needs serious reform. Same with the UK but I don't see it happening IMO.

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Democracy is in deep trouble.

This is the problem when you have such a tribal two party system. It becomes not about getting the rule to rule, bit about beating the other side. It's about doing everything you can to gain power and everything you can to stop the other side getting it. It becomes about helping you own, and superseding or crippling those on the other side.

It applies to the transgender issue further up the page too. They are fine with giving liberal gun access to people because it's, by and large, what their side want. But they don't really care about transgender rights as it's not something their voters or anyone in their lives really care about.

And I'm not sure why Republicans are so fearful of transgender people. They had all the furore about someone using a bathroom as an excuse to assault a woman. But as long as trasgender people keep calendars then they'll get away with it anyway.

Parksey wrote:And I'm not sure why Republicans are so fearful of transgender people. They had all the furore about someone using a bathroom as an excuse to assault a woman. But as long as trasgender people keep calendars then they'll get away with it anyway.

This what makes me laugh the most about that whole issue, because as we seem to hear about more and more these days, it's the white, old, crusty bacon-faces that are more likely to be doing this sort of thing.

Parksey wrote:This is the problem when you have such a tribal two party system. It becomes not about getting the rule to rule, bit about beating the other side. It's about doing everything you can to gain power and everything you can to stop the other side getting it. It becomes about helping you own, and superseding or crippling those on the other side.

It applies to the transgender issue further up the page too. They are fine with giving liberal gun access to people because it's, by and large, what their side want. But they don't really care about transgender rights as it's not something their voters or anyone in their lives really care about.

And I'm not sure why Republicans are so fearful of transgender people. They had all the furore about someone using a bathroom as an excuse to assault a woman. But as long as trasgender people keep calendars then they'll get away with it anyway.

No.
No let's not do that.

Let's not compare massive voter suppression along racial grounds with....what do you think the Dems have done that's comparable?

Or compare adding restrictions around weapons designed to kill that are regularly and repeatable used to massacres, and result in death rates multitudes higher than other comparable countries with...wanting to treat Transgender people as people?

This is not a situation where it's in anyway acceptable to present both sides as bad as each other.

I think voting access is one area where the UK really does hammer the US.
My mum ran a voting booth for a few decades and I helped set it up many times and they are situated to make it as easy as possible for people to vote it isn't decided by a political party it's purely done on ease of access which is how it should be.
I may not agree with how you vote and may indeed think you completely delusional but everyone should have the chance to vote and yes I'm including convicted felons here as they have served their time and are now citizens again.

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National Emergy!

Emergy is an expression of all the energy used in the work processes that generate a product or service in units of one type of energy. Emergy is measured in units of emjoules, a unit referring to the available energy consumed in transformations.

‘I was showing off my vocabulary folks, and the fake news...they did a complete hit job on me. I outsmarted them, it’s okay.’

So Trumps plan to stop people fleeing impoverished countries is to stop all aid to them thus making them even more impoverished?

That's sure to work out well .

Then again this is the same country where some people will without irony claim that "If you give unemployed (or even underemployed) people benefits they'll never get a job so it's better to give them nothing at all and force them to get a job or starve!".

I wasn't saying both sides are as bad as the other, Hexx. I was saying that their two party system has basically put everyone into tribes. This has led to certain people - those at the far edges of the spectrum, seeing politics as your side winning or people who support the other side losing.

Unfortunately for most of us, that mindset is prevelant in the alt-right, which has seen a resurgence in most western countries of late, perhaps as a reaction to the increasingly liberal decades that preceded us. Obama being elected helped turn quite a few of them bitter and they aimed to block him at any cost. Now they are in power, they seem to just want to push their agenda through as quickly as possible and "win" at any cost. This has led to a lot of stuff getting repealed or torn up.

Parksey wrote:I wasn't saying both sides are as bad as the other, Hexx. I was saying that their two party system has basically put everyone into tribes. This has led to certain people - those at the far edges of the spectrum, seeing politics as your side winning or people who support the other side losing.

Unfortunately for most of us, that mindset is prevelant in the alt-right, which has seen a resurgence in most western countries of late, perhaps as a reaction to the increasingly liberal decades that preceded us. Obama being elected helped turn quite a few of them bitter and they aimed to block him at any cost. Now they are in power, they seem to just want to push their agenda through as quickly as possible and "win" at any cost. This has led to a lot of stuff getting repealed or torn up.

Apologies then - I read your post as thinking it was Tit for Tat etc. My Bad.