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by Squinty » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:02 am

strawberry float sake.

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PostRe: US Politics - 12 Russian intelligence officers indicted for hacking DNC to influence election
by Moggy » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:11 am

Disgraced former defence secretary Liam Fox loves Trump.

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by Alvin Flummux » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:01 pm

Clearly angling for the role of Ambassador.

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PostRe: US Politics - 12 Russian intelligence officers indicted for hacking DNC to influence election
by Preezy » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:19 pm

More like Liam Fuckoff amirite

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by Alvin Flummux » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:18 pm

Indeed.

Excellent article on Politico today:

I was educated a Democrat from my boyhood,” a Republican delegate confided to his colleagues at Iowa’s constitutional convention in 1857. “Faithfully, I did adhere to that party until I could no longer act with it. Many things did I condemn ere I left that party, for my love of party was strong. And when I did, at last, feel compelled to separate from my old Democratic friends, it was like tearing myself away from old home associations.”

As often seems the case today, American politics in the 1850s were nearly all-consuming and stubbornly tribal. So it was hard—and bitterly so—for hundreds of thousands of Northern Democrats to abandon the political organization that had long formed the backbone of their civic identity. Yet they came over the course of a decade to believe that the Jacksonian Democratic Party had degenerated into something thoroughly autocratic and corrupt. It had fallen so deeply in the thrall of the Slave Power that it posed an existential threat to American democracy.

Placing the sanctity of the nation above the narrow bonds of party, these Democrats joined in common cause with former Whig antagonists in the epic struggle to save the United States from its own darker instincts.

Today, a small but influential cadre of Republican elected officials, strategists and policy experts faces a similar choice. Heirs of Ronald Reagan, they have grown to believe that their party has also degenerated into something ugly and undemocratic—hostile to science and fact, rooted in an angry spirit of racial and ethnic nationalism, enamored of foreign strongmen and hostile to American institutions, and so fundamentally estranged from the nation’s founding values that it poses an existential threat to American democracy.


Much more at the link: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... son-219006

Well worth a read. :capnscotty:

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PostRe: US Politics - 12 Russian intelligence officers indicted for hacking DNC to influence election
by Peter Crisp » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:51 pm

The Republican party are looking the other way to the ballooning debt and deficit (which they would have shouted about until they dropped if the Democrats did the same) which up until recently was at the core of who they were.
They now seemingly don't give a gooseberry fool about that and just care about tax cuts for the rich and screwing the poor and middle class even more than they used to.

Anyone who isn't part of the top 1% and is voting for Trump is willingly voting against their own self interest and doing so with a smile on their face because their team is winning and that's all they care about.
I can foresee a time in the not distant future when we have a situation with 95% of the country having almost nothing and the 5% own pretty much everything and the republican voters will still vote Republican and claim trickle down will eventually work if they just give the rich enough money.

They have been thoroughly brainwashed and just can't even begin to see just how insane the trickle down idea is.

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by Snowcannon » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:55 pm

Liam Fox calling someone else an embarrassment :lol:

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by Moggy » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:54 am

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by Garth » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:49 am

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by Alvin Flummux » Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:11 pm

In the face of evidence of Russian interference in the US' election, the party line is shifting from "NO COLLUSION" to "Hey, we all do it."

twitter.com/politico/status/1018486339644395520





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PostRe: US Politics - 12 Russian intelligence officers indicted for hacking DNC to influence election
by Meep » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:13 pm

I'm glad the US has taken the time to express their concern about our jailing of repeat offenders with violent criminal records. If only we had their humane record of forcibly separating families and caging children.

Will somebody please think of the thugs!

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by Moggy » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:16 pm

Meep wrote:I'm glad the US has taken the time to express their concern about our jailing of repeat offenders with violent criminal records. If only we had their humane record of forcibly separating families and caging children.

Will somebody please think of the thugs!


But but but we all love Tommy. You must love muslamic pedo scum if you don’t support him.

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by Grumpy David » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:45 pm

"I think the European Union is a foe," Trump says ahead of Putin meeting in Helsinki

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-interview-cbs-news-european-union-is-a-foe-ahead-of-putin-meeting-in-helsinki-jeff-glor/

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by Rightey » Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:18 am

Grumpy David wrote:"I think the European Union is a foe," Trump says ahead of Putin meeting in Helsinki

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-interview-cbs-news-european-union-is-a-foe-ahead-of-putin-meeting-in-helsinki-jeff-glor/

:slol:


"Well, I think we have a lot of foes. I think the European Union is a foe, what they do to us in trade. Now, you wouldn't think of the European Union, but they're a foe. Russia is foe in certain respects. China is a foe economically, certainly they are a foe. But that doesn't mean they are bad. It doesn't mean anything. It means that they are competitive," Mr. Trump said at his golf club in Turnberry, Scotland.


So the US has a lot of foes, but it's ok because that doesn't really mean anything! I also like how he can specify why the EU and China are foes but not Russia.

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PostRe: US Politics - 12 Russian intelligence officers indicted for hacking DNC to influence election
by Garth » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:56 am

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by Preezy » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:05 pm

Interesting that Trump is now calling the witch hunt "rigged", as if he's mentally preparing his supporters for the result to go against him. Of course they've concluded there was collusion, it was rigged!

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by Alvin Flummux » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:09 pm

Polling indicates that Mueller's indictments aren't changing the public's mind on Trump and Russia, at least not for long.

... don’t underestimate the intractability of people who have dug into their partisan trenches. In the three aforementioned polls, Democrats almost uniformly believed that Russia either interfered in the election or that Russian interference was a serious matter, while Republicans were more divided. A potential explanation is easy enough to find: Even though Trump has softened his stance this year, he previously repeatedly suggested that Russia had not attempted to influence the election. That and his denigration of the Mueller investigation may contribute to Republicans’ skepticism of Russian involvement.


https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/pa ... on-russia/

Preezy wrote:Interesting that Trump is now calling the witch hunt "rigged", as if he's mentally preparing his supporters for the result to go against him. Of course they've concluded there was collusion, it was rigged!


He's been laying that groundwork for a long time.

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PostRe: US Politics - 12 Russian intelligence officers indicted for hacking DNC to influence election
by Squinty » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:40 pm

Grumpy David wrote:"I think the European Union is a foe," Trump says ahead of Putin meeting in Helsinki

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-interview-cbs-news-european-union-is-a-foe-ahead-of-putin-meeting-in-helsinki-jeff-glor/

twitter.com/eucopresident/status/1018511452242612224



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PostRe: US Politics - 12 Russian intelligence officers indicted for hacking DNC to influence election
by Peter Crisp » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:59 pm

The US is at a point where facts don't matter and history is just lies told by enemies of America.
There is no arguing with these people as they will just claim anything they disagree with is fake news and you can bring in 100 experts on a topic saying something and they will find the 1 expert who agree's with them and claim that proves there's a giant global conspiracy.

It's sad to watch a once great democracy descend into the shithole it's fast becoming and I have a feeling the won't need to worry about immigration for long as people will be leaving in record numbers because of the policies of the Republicans which will strawberry float both the poor/middle class and the environment.

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