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by Preezy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:18 am

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Preezy wrote:Hahaha America is such a gooseberry fool hole. It's going to get far worse before it gets any better, strap in everyone, yahooooo!

I really hate posts like this, especially being married to an American. It's political system is awful but please refrain from calling the entire nation a gooseberry fool hole. Minnesota is a democratic state, not much they can about republican pricks.

He said America, not Americans.

Oh no, I meant those as well. Weirdos :slol: ;)

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by KK » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:39 pm

BBC doing more of these long reads recently, they’re very good:

Homeless in Portland: A deepening crisis on the streets of America

They seem to be almost everywhere, in places old and new, no age spared. Sleeping on cardboard or bare ground, the homeless come together under bridges and trees, their belongings in plastic bags symbolising lives on the move.

Many have arrived on the streets just recently, victims of the same prosperity that has transformed cities across the US West Coast. As officials struggle to respond to this growing crisis, some say things are likely to get worse.

Vibrant Portland, Oregon's largest city, has long lured many. It is the City of Roses, of pleasant climate, rich culture and progressive thinking. It is also an innovation hub, part of what is called Silicon Forest, and new residents have moved here in these post-recession years attracted by its high-tech companies and their well-paid jobs.

But the bonanza, unsurprisingly, has not come to everyone.

Booming demand in an area with limited housing offers quickly drove the cost of living up, and those who were financially on the limit lost the ability they once had to afford a place.

Many were rescued by family and friends, or government programmes and non-profit groups. Others, however, ended up homeless. The lucky ones have found space in public shelters. Not a few are now in tents and vehicles on the streets.

"Even though the economy has never been stronger," Mayor Ted Wheeler, a Democrat, said, "inequality [is] growing at an alarming rate and the benefits from a [growing] economy are increasingly concentrated in fewer and fewer hands... We have increasing disparity all across the United States, and that's definitely impacting people."

His city is indeed not alone. Homelessness has increased in other thriving West Coast cities that are destinations for young, well-educated workers, like San Francisco and Seattle, where the blame has also largely fallen on rapidly rising costs and evictions.

Exact numbers are always hard to come by but 553,742 people were homeless on a single night across the US in 2017, the Department of Housing and Urban Development said, the first rise in seven years. (The figure, however, was still 13% lower than in 2010.)

Declines in 30 states were overshadowed by big surges elsewhere, with California, Oregon and Washington among the five worst. Los Angeles, where the situation has been described as unprecedented, had more than 50,000 people without homes, behind only New York City, which had some 75,000.

Continued: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45442596

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by Peter Crisp » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:49 pm

I honestly feel that some Americans see those dystopian films showing a future where the rich have everything and 90% of the population are struggling just to survive are a model to aim for.
Being poor is obviously a choice people make and they can easily become massively wealthy if they just put a bit of effort in but they don't so screw them. They don't seem to realise that maybe having wealth more spread out evenly about the population makes for more customers who can afford to maybe go out for a nice lunch now and then or actually own or rent a house but no, it's all about giving the super rich tax breaks and making sure companies are never burdened by taxes or regulations.

They will honestly argue that someone like Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos will lose all motivation if asked to pay 30 or 40% income tax and just give up as why bother only having $25B when they now have $40B as that would be just terrible.

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by Preezy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:11 pm

Quite the quandary- a successful economy raises living standards but can also price out the bottom of the market.

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PostRe: US Politics
by KK » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:09 pm

Trump sounding off again:

’He [Kavanaugh] was caught up in a hoax, that was set up by the Democrats, using the Democrats lawyers and now they want to impeach him. I have heard this from many people, I think it’s an insult to the American public. I think you’re going to see a lot of things happen on November 6 that would not have happened before. The American public has seen this charade, have seen this dishonesty by the Democrats...it was all made up, it was all fabricated, and it’s a disgrace,’

‘The Democrats have shifted so far left this country will end up being Venezuela...I think a lot of Democrats will be voting Republican on November 6.’

Video at the link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us- ... hoax-trump

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PostRe: US Politics
by Moggy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:19 pm

What is it with the hard right and Venezuela? :lol:

I hope the Republicans get absolutely shafted in the mid-terms. I fear that won’t happen though.

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by DML » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:24 pm

Moggy wrote:What is it with the hard right and Venezuela? :lol:

I hope the Republicans get absolutely shafted in the mid-terms. I fear that won’t happen though.


What gives me hope is that he didn't have a majority BEFORE, he almost certainly doesn't have one now. I doubt hes going to get lucky twice regards the Senate and all that. But obviously its hard tot hink that because we seem to live in the worst timeline. Maybe this is the moment we realise we don't.

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by Moggy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:26 pm

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Moggy wrote:What is it with the hard right and Venezuela? :lol:

I hope the Republicans get absolutely shafted in the mid-terms. I fear that won’t happen though.


What gives me hope is that he didn't have a majority BEFORE, he almost certainly doesn't have one now. I doubt hes going to get lucky twice regards the Senate and all that. But obviously its hard tot hink that because we seem to live in the worst timeline. Maybe this is the moment we realise we don't.


I absolutely agree, there’s no chance he is going to increase his power in the mid-terms.

Which is exactly why I think it’ll probably happen.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Alvin Flummux » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:26 pm

538 seems to think that the House is favoured to flip, while the Senate will either remain as is, or go one seat more Republican.

The far right keep citing Venezuela because Venezuela is a far left basketcase - a shoddily attempted socialist country that's falling hard toward dictatorship.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Preezy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:27 pm

I predict a landslide Republican win, the Democrats couldn't smooth a silk sheet if they had a hot date with a babe... I've lost my train of thought.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Alvin Flummux » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:29 pm

Don't underestimate the pissed offedness of the general public toward the Republicunts.

The party in power almost always suffers in the midterms.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Moggy » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:31 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:The far right keep citing Venezuela because Venezuela is a far left basketcase - a shoddily attempted socialist country that's falling hard toward dictatorship.


I know why they do it, stop Alvinsplaining. ;)

The idea of the Democrats being like Venezuela is astonishing, they are further right than the British Tory party used to be. The Tories might have slipped further right than the Dems recently though.

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by Hexx » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:32 pm

I think the Dems won't do anywhere near as well as many predict/hope. I'm also not sure about 2020.

If feels like the Left groups have a problem of "conscientious objectors" - people that won't vote for anything but their candidate. (e.g. BernieBros that would not vote for Clinton under any circumstances)

The Dem party has a lot of this bagage - and these "principled" people won't vote for the Dems in lots of circumstance - even if it means Trump (after all it's not their fault. it's the party's fault for putting up the wrong candicate)

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PostRe: US Politics
by Drumstick » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:41 pm

In principle I agree with Hexx - but if these clowns were ever going to grow up and band together now is the time.

One man should not have this much power in this game. Luckily I'm not an ordinary man.
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PostRe: US Politics
by Peter Crisp » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:51 pm

Moggy wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:The far right keep citing Venezuela because Venezuela is a far left basketcase - a shoddily attempted socialist country that's falling hard toward dictatorship.


I know why they do it, stop Alvinsplaining. ;)

The idea of the Democrats being like Venezuela is astonishing, they are further right than the British Tory party used to be. The Tories might have slipped further right than the Dems recently though.


The real problem is many republican voters have this odd idea that any move towards any type of socialism (be it single payer healthcare or having maternity leave) will automatically lead to the US becoming Venezuela.
The fact that Europe has many of the things they say will cause this must baffle them as surely all Europe must be doomed all the time and how does any company even exist in Europe with the benefits (like 25 days holiday and maternity/paternity) that mush crush all the spirit from the poor downtrodden investors and management.

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by Tafdolphin » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:24 pm

Hexx wrote:I think the Dems won't do anywhere near as well as many predict/hope. I'm also not sure about 2020.

If feels like the Left groups have a problem of "conscientious objectors" - people that won't vote for anything but their candidate. (e.g. BernieBros that would not vote for Clinton under any circumstances)

The Dem party has a lot of this bagage - and these "principled" people won't vote for the Dems in lots of circumstance - even if it means Trump (after all it's not their fault. it's the party's fault for putting up the wrong candicate)


I've been thinking this recently. All this talk of a 'blue wave' smacks very much of the Dems over confidence heading into the election. Fivethreeeight have also highlighted some stats that, although favourable for the Dems, fall within normal swing percentages. Considering the chaos engulfing the country, this in itself is a very bad sign that people are not, in fact, flocking to the left in the numbers the Democrats need.

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PostRe: US Politics
by DML » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:59 pm

Wouldnt it be wonderful if for once the shock was the Dems doing spectacularly well and wiping out the Reps. Its gotta go that way SOMETIME.

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PostRe: US Politics
by KK » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:17 pm

Kavanaugh to be sworn in from around 12am tonight with ceremony and FESTIVITIES, for those that want to stay up for that. Donald Trump will star, too.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Parksey » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:36 am

Festivities you say? Might call for a few cheeky rounds of Devil's Triangle.

The other country the Far Right have a weird obsession with is Sweden. They seem to have alerts set up so that they are notified whenever anyone who is slightly brown over there commits a crime. It's hardly a groundbreaking revelation but they are staggering ill-informed about Europe. We are in the midst of a knifing crisis at the moment apparently. The insinuation being that if you don't have guns, you just constantly stab one another.

And another thing, totally unconnected. With the Ford-Kavanaugh thing, we had a lot of people try and hedge their bets and desperately try not to appear dismissive of Dr Ford by saying, "Oh I think she was definitely sexuallt assaulted, just not by Kavanaugh". There's clearly been some thinking that they didn't want to completely discredit her or call her a liar, because it sort of looks bad, especially to female supporters. The problem is, I can't think of anything more dismissive and uncaring to say to a sexual assault victim then that they believe they were sexually assaulted, but that they're mistaken about which man it actually was.

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by Alvin Flummux » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:21 am

Tafdolphin wrote:
Hexx wrote:I think the Dems won't do anywhere near as well as many predict/hope. I'm also not sure about 2020.

If feels like the Left groups have a problem of "conscientious objectors" - people that won't vote for anything but their candidate. (e.g. BernieBros that would not vote for Clinton under any circumstances)

The Dem party has a lot of this bagage - and these "principled" people won't vote for the Dems in lots of circumstance - even if it means Trump (after all it's not their fault. it's the party's fault for putting up the wrong candicate)


I've been thinking this recently. All this talk of a 'blue wave' smacks very much of the Dems over confidence heading into the election. Fivethreeeight have also highlighted some stats that, although favourable for the Dems, fall within normal swing percentages. Considering the chaos engulfing the country, this in itself is a very bad sign that people are not, in fact, flocking to the left in the numbers the Democrats need.




The last time that anything like this happened (Clarence Thomas and the Anita Hill allegations) it generated a huge backlash from Democratic and independent voters, and was a key factor George Bush Sr. remaining a one-term president. It was also the cause of a tremendous upset against a generally well-liked Democrat senator, who only voted for Thomas' confirmation because, prior to Hill's allegations surfacing, he outright promised Bush he would. Needless to say, gooseberry fool got awkward there when the allegations emerged. In the end, it resulted in the election of the first female African-American senator to office.

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