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PostRe: US Politics
by Drumstick » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:38 am

strawberry floating hell, Alvin, sort it out.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Moggy » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:39 am

twitter.com/bbcnews/status/1064799907473612800



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PostRe: US Politics
by Drumstick » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:48 am

BUT. HER. EMAILS!

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PostRe: US Politics
by Hexx » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:54 am

Drumstick wrote:BUT. HER. EMAILS!


BUTTERY MALES!

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PostRe: US Politics
by Monkey Man » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:42 pm

Trump signals US won't punish Saudi crown prince over Khashoggi killing -

America First!

The world is a very dangerous place!

The country of Iran, as an example, is responsible for a bloody proxy war against Saudi Arabia in Yemen, trying to destabilize Iraq's fragile attempt at democracy, supporting the terror group Hezbollah in Lebanon, propping up dictator Bashar Assad in Syria (who has killed millions of his own citizens), and much more. Likewise, the Iranians have killed many Americans and other innocent people throughout the Middle East. Iran states openly, and with great force, "Death to America!" and "Death to Israel!" Iran is considered "the world's leading sponsor of terror."

On the other hand, Saudi Arabia would gladly withdraw from Yemen if the Iranians would agree to leave. They would immediately provide desperately needed humanitarian assistance. Additionally, Saudi Arabia has agreed to spend billions of dollars in leading the fight against Radical Islamic Terrorism.

After my heavily negotiated trip to Saudi Arabia last year, the Kingdom agreed to spend and invest $450 billion in the United States. This is a record amount of money. It will create hundreds of thousands of jobs, tremendous economic development, and much additional wealth for the United States. Of the $450 billion, $110 billion will be spent on the purchase of military equipment from Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and many other great U.S. defense contractors. If we foolishly cancel these contracts, Russia and China would be the enormous beneficiaries - and very happy to acquire all of this newfound business. It would be a wonderful gift to them directly from the United States!

The crime against Jamal Khashoggi was a terrible one, and one that our country does not condone. Indeed, we have taken strong action against those already known to have participated in the murder. After great independent research, we now know many details of this horrible crime. We have already sanctioned 17 Saudis known to have been involved in the murder of Mr. Khashoggi, and the disposal of his body.

Representatives of Saudi Arabia say that Jamal Khashoggi was an "enemy of the state" and a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, but my decision is in no way based on that — this is an unacceptable and horrible crime. King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman vigorously deny any knowledge of the planning or execution of the murder of Mr. Khashoggi. Our intelligence agencies continue to assess all information, but it could very well be that the Crown Prince had knowledge of this tragic event — maybe he did and maybe he didn't!

That being said, we may never know all of the facts surrounding the murder of Mr. Jamal Khashoggi. In any case, our relationship is with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. They have been a great ally in our very important fight against Iran. The United States intends to remain a steadfast partner of Saudi Arabia to ensure the interests of our country, Israel and all other partners in the region. It is our paramount goal to fully eliminate the threat of terrorism throughout the world!

I understand there are members of Congress who, for political or other reasons, would like to go in a different direction - and they are free to do so. I will consider whatever ideas are presented to me, but only if they are consistent with the absolute security and safety of America. After the United States, Saudi Arabia is the largest oil producing nation in the world. They have worked closely with us and have been very responsive to my requests to keeping oil prices at reasonable levels — so important for the world. As President of the United States I intend to ensure that, in a very dangerous world, America is pursuing its national interests and vigorously contesting countries that wish to do us harm. Very simply it is called America First!

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/20/poli ... index.html

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PostRe: US Politics
by Alvin Flummux » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:45 pm

Completely beholden to Saudi money. What a strawberry floating banana split.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Memento Mori » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:23 pm

Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/bbcnews/status/1064799907473612800



:lol:


:lol: :lol:

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PostRe: US Politics
by Hexx » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:05 pm

twitter.com/amyfiscus/status/1064999737307406342


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PostRe: US Politics
by Drumstick » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:21 pm

Yet more Fake News from the failing New York Times.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Harry Ola » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:28 am

Guess what, something dodgy going on with Matt Whitaker's financials. He received $1.2m from some hidden not for profit and the process stinks. See thread.

twitter.com/waltshaub/status/1065035536421855236


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PostRe: US Politics
by Hexx » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:17 am

twitter.com/michelleisawolf/status/1065110176863264768


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PostRe: US Politics
by Photek » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:46 am

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/michelleisawolf/status/1065110176863264768


Absolutely destroyed.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Peter Crisp » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:10 am

He still won't go because there's still a chance someone might be a little mean to him.

The sooner he gets voted out the better and I hope the party puts all the blame on him and decides to try and scrub him from history.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Alvin Flummux » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:16 am

Peter Crisp wrote:He still won't go because there's still a chance someone might be a little mean to him.

The sooner he gets voted out the better and I hope the party puts all the blame on him and decides to try and scrub him from history.


I never understood why ancient civilizations sometimes tried to erase all trace of certain leaders, defacing their statues beyond recognition, etc. Now I do. :lol:

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PostRe: US Politics
by Peter Crisp » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:21 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:He still won't go because there's still a chance someone might be a little mean to him.

The sooner he gets voted out the better and I hope the party puts all the blame on him and decides to try and scrub him from history.


I never understood why ancient civilizations sometimes tried to erase all trace of certain leaders, defacing their statues beyond recognition, etc. Now I do. :lol:


Every now and then a complete twat gets to be in charge and half way through people realise and think "Hang on, maybe this wasn't the greatest decision of all time" and the people decide to try and cover-up the shitshow. It's just a shame we have TV and the internet now which makes bulldozing someone into the ground a lot harder but that still doesn't mean they shouldn't give it a go.

If they try hard enough maybe we can forget Trump existed in 10 years.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Benzin » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:29 am

I dunno, forgetting that awful leaders existed means being doomed to make the same mistakes again :dread:

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PostRe: US Politics
by Moggy » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:34 am

Peter Crisp wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:He still won't go because there's still a chance someone might be a little mean to him.

The sooner he gets voted out the better and I hope the party puts all the blame on him and decides to try and scrub him from history.


I never understood why ancient civilizations sometimes tried to erase all trace of certain leaders, defacing their statues beyond recognition, etc. Now I do. :lol:


Every now and then a complete twat gets to be in charge and half way through people realise and think "Hang on, maybe this wasn't the greatest decision of all time" and the people decide to try and cover-up the shitshow. It's just a shame we have TV and the internet now which makes bulldozing someone into the ground a lot harder but that still doesn't mean they shouldn't give it a go.

If they try hard enough maybe we can forget Trump existed in 10 years.


Remember 10 years ago when George Dubya finally left office and we thought that was the worst President we would ever see?

Just imagine who will win the election in 2028. :lol:

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PostRe: US Politics
by Alvin Flummux » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:48 am

Benzin wrote:I dunno, forgetting that awful leaders existed means being doomed to make the same mistakes again :dread:


Unless those leaders' time in power is enough of a kick up the arse to spur reforms sufficient to never permit it again. The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, for example, should it pass with enough states, would end the reign of the Electoral College and never again will we see a popular vote loser like Trump or Dubya in the White House.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Corazon de Leon » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:55 pm

Catchy name too.

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PostRe: US Politics
by Peter Crisp » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:55 pm

Moggy wrote:Remember 10 years ago when George Dubya finally left office and we thought that was the worst President we would ever see?

Just imagine who will win the election in 2028. :lol:


At least they dodged a bullet when Boris Johnson renounced his citizenship, now we just have to make sure he doesn't become PM here.

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