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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by Moggy » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:57 am

Lotus wrote:How do you know I didn't go? And hundreds of people isn't quite the same as the 50,000 expected (in London alone) for Trump.


I am sure you did go, your previous post made it sound like you were there.

There’s an obvious difference between protesting Trump and protesting Saudi Arabia. It’s surprising that you can’t see it.

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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by Jenuall » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:46 am

I'm half tempted to turn up to the Trump protest and I never normally have any feelings about joining in with these things.

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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by Rightey » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:22 pm

Moggy wrote:
Lotus wrote:How do you know I didn't go? And hundreds of people isn't quite the same as the 50,000 expected (in London alone) for Trump.


I am sure you did go, your previous post made it sound like you were there.

There’s an obvious difference between protesting Trump and protesting Saudi Arabia. It’s surprising that you can’t see it.


Yeah SA is about 100 times worse.

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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by Moggy » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:22 pm

Rightey wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lotus wrote:How do you know I didn't go? And hundreds of people isn't quite the same as the 50,000 expected (in London alone) for Trump.


I am sure you did go, your previous post made it sound like you were there.

There’s an obvious difference between protesting Trump and protesting Saudi Arabia. It’s surprising that you can’t see it.


Yeah SA is about 100 times worse.


It is.

But you’re missing the point.

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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by Peter Crisp » Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:27 pm

I think the difference is nobody look to Saudi Arabia to be the last bastion of freedom good governance but the USA likes to shout loudly that they are indeed just that.

The US likes to try and lecture the rest of the world about how they should act but are now in danger of losing any credibility they have with regards to human rights or freedom.

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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by Dual » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:37 pm

Moggy wrote:
Rightey wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lotus wrote:How do you know I didn't go? And hundreds of people isn't quite the same as the 50,000 expected (in London alone) for Trump.


I am sure you did go, your previous post made it sound like you were there.

There’s an obvious difference between protesting Trump and protesting Saudi Arabia. It’s surprising that you can’t see it.


Yeah SA is about 100 times worse.


It is.

But you’re missing the point.


Well tell us then.

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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by Moggy » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:45 pm

Dual wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Rightey wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lotus wrote:How do you know I didn't go? And hundreds of people isn't quite the same as the 50,000 expected (in London alone) for Trump.


I am sure you did go, your previous post made it sound like you were there.

There’s an obvious difference between protesting Trump and protesting Saudi Arabia. It’s surprising that you can’t see it.


Yeah SA is about 100 times worse.


It is.

But you’re missing the point.


Well tell us then.


Well firstly it’s whataboutery to be crying about Saudi Arabia when we are talking about America.

But America is different in so many ways. We all know what a vile regime the Saudi’s operate, nobody would question that. But America is supposed to be different.

America is a democratic Western nation that is supposed to be a shining light on the world. “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free”.

America is the world superpower.

America is the biggest ally of the UK.

America cries out that it is the land of the free. A nation that values life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

And yet they have a guy in charge who supports white supremacy. Removes children from their parents and locks them in cages. Who insults and threatens other countries and world leaders.

The Saudi government are a bunch of banana splits. But they’ve always been banana splits and don’t pretend to be anything other than a bunch of banana splits.

I find it astonishing that people cannot see the difference between protesting Trump and protesting the Crown Prince.

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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by Peter Crisp » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:34 am

At this point who doesn't have incriminating evidence on Trump?

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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by Alvin Flummux » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:37 am

Even the Carthaginians have dirt on him.

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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by KK » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:34 pm

For those that can’t watch it:

So I have Nato, I have the UK; that's a situation with turmoil. And I have Putin. Frankly, Putin may be the easiest of all.

It's going to be an interesting time in the UK and an interesting time at Nato. We will work it out and all countries will be happy. We do have a lot of allies. But we cannot be taken advantage of. We're being taken advantage of by the European Union. We spend 75 per cent on Nato and frankly, it helps them more than it helps us.

The UK certainly has a lot of things going on.

Boris Johnson's a friend of mine. He's been very, very nice to me. Very supportive. And maybe we'll speak to him when I get over there. I like Boris Johnson. I've always liked him.

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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by Alvin Flummux » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:46 pm

Trump definitely wants Johnson to launch a leadership challenge against May.

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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by suzzopher » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:49 pm

Yep, I wonder how long after we exit the EU that Trump will pull the American forces out of Europe?

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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by Peter Crisp » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:38 pm

suzzopher wrote:Yep, I wonder how long after we exit the EU that Trump will pull the American forces out of Europe?


I actually think the US pulling out would be a good thing as the EU can defend itself with the forces it has (maybe it could spend slightly more but only slightly as we don't think everyone wants to invade us constantly as the US does) and the US will lose global military influence and power projection capability by closing European bases.

US base personnel generally don't spend much money in the local area anyway as they tend to stay on base so as far as I'm concerned it's not a huge loss if they do bugger off.

We can also tell the US to go strawberry float themselves more often as they won't be able to use the old "We're leaving and you obviously can't defend yourselves" tactic and I really don't see anyone trying to invade a unified EU (even out of the EU the UK would certainly pile in if the EU was attacked) given the firepower that could make any attempt really not worth it.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by Alvin Flummux » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:46 am

Peter Crisp wrote:I actually think the US pulling out would be a good thing as the EU can defend itself with the forces it has


LOL no.

Actually, speaking of the EU defending itself...

‘They Will Die in Tallinn’: Estonia Girds for War With Russia
The head of the tiny NATO member’s special forces details his country’s preparations for a conflict many here see as inevitable.


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... sia-218965

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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by Peter Crisp » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:05 am

I do agree Germany needs to get a grip and start actually trying to have armed forces that aren't laughable but I'm sure they could manage it.
Maybe they could start by maintaining the stuff they do have properly but at the moment the UK and France would need to do the heavy lifting in regards to any EU common defence policy. The Nordic nations also bring some pretty handy capabilities to the table as well so if they can help all the better.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by Alvin Flummux » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:07 am

If Trump pulls US forces out of Europe, Russia will begin to move aggressively to take back more of its former territories, politically and through military annexation. Then NATO and the EU will either have to step in and directly confront Russia, or prove themselves impotent.

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PostRe: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump
by suzzopher » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:59 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:If Trump pulls US forces out of Europe, Russia will begin to move aggressively to take back more of its former territories, politically and through military annexation. Then NATO and the EU will either have to step in and directly confront Russia, or prove themselves impotent.


Which is Russia’s end game after destabilising the West with Trump and Brexit.


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