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Re: US Politics - Senate Intel Committee concludes Russia interfered in 2016 election, preferred Trump

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:05 am
by Lex-Man
Maybe they could annex Croatia and France today so we'd win the world cup by default.

Re: US Politics - Trump escalates trade war with tariffs on $200bn of Chinese imports

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:25 pm
by Harry Ola

twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/1017035898855284736


Re: US Politics - Trump escalates trade war with tariffs on $200bn of Chinese imports

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:02 pm
by Moggy
Harry Ola wrote:

twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/1017035898855284736



Why has the bloke at the back got purple eyes?

Re: US Politics - Trump escalates trade war with tariffs on $200bn of Chinese imports

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:15 pm
by Cheeky Devlin
Is it just me or does it look like its been shopped? What's going on between the guy to the left of Trump and Trumps shoulder?

Re: US Politics - Trump escalates trade war with tariffs on $200bn of Chinese imports

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:17 pm
by Preezy
Cheeky Devlin wrote:Is it just me or does it look like its been shopped? What's going on between the guy to the left of Trump and Trumps shoulder?

There's a third person behind them both that is partially in shot. Not fake news confirmed :capnscotty:

Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:05 am
by Green Gecko
They're clearly at the OTAN conference anyway. I think Trump is lost. Maybe he not only thinks but also sees backwards?

Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:17 am
by Hexx

twitter.com/mathieuvonrohr/status/1017338807396524032



twitter.com/haynesdeborah/status/1017345020767227904


Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:22 am
by Peter Crisp
At best he's going to be in his final year as President so surely they wouldn't allow him to make such a momentous decision as leaving NATO especially if all the candidates oppose the idea? Sure the US can hope we spend more on defence but if they want basses in Europe they need to be in NATO and they have zero control over how much we spend of our own money.

Germany doesn't spend anywhere near 2% so expecting them to hit that target this year is insane and I highly doubt it could be done even if the Germans wanted to as it would mean cuts to other departments or borrowing, both of which can't just be done on a whim and take months if not years of planning as the Germans aren't known for just doing things without consideration.

Trump clearly has even less idea about how global politics works than I thought and I thought he was pretty clueless but I'd thought he would at least have advisors who could tell him his idea is strawberry floating stupid.

Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:23 am
by Return_of_the_STAR
Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/mathieuvonrohr/status/1017338807396524032



twitter.com/haynesdeborah/status/1017345020767227904



Awesome we can have a new club of the World's mightiest military spending powers, the USA, Greece, Estonia, The UK and Latvia.

Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:24 am
by Return_of_the_STAR
Peter Crisp wrote:At best he's going to be in his final year as President so surely they wouldn't allow him to make such a momentous decision as leaving NATO especially if all the candidates oppose the idea? Sure the US can hope we spend more on defence but if they want basses in Europe they need to be in NATO and they have zero control over how much we spend of our own money.


I wonder legally what it takes for the US to leave NATO, can the President just take them out or would it be something that Congress and the Senate would have to vote on. If so I would be very surprised if Trump was supported.

Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:25 am
by Alvin Flummux
I don't think Europe has much choice but to go ahead and raise spending, NATO needs to survive his presidency.

Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:26 am
by Knoyleo

twitter.com/mattburgess1/status/1017315521539313666


Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:26 am
by Hexx
He's speaking. He's secured the best deal ever and NATO is now much stronger than its ever been. WINNING!

Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:28 am
by Harry Ola

twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1017269222651711488


Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:30 am
by Peter Crisp
Alvin Flummux wrote:I don't think Europe has much choice but to go ahead and raise spending, NATO needs to survive his presidency.


We can call his bluff and watch as he gets crushed on the issue by people pointing out the many, many flaws in his idea or we could just make a counter demand that "OK, we'll spend 4% on defence but we want you to spend twice as much on schools just because!" and see how they like it.

Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:32 am
by Alvin Flummux
Peter Crisp wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:I don't think Europe has much choice but to go ahead and raise spending, NATO needs to survive his presidency.


We can call his bluff and watch as he gets crushed on the issue by people pointing out the many, many flaws in his idea


It doesn't matter if he gets crushed by facts, he always declares victory or pulls some crazy gooseberry fool out of his ass. He would very likely try to leave NATO if push came to shove.

Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:33 am
by Peter Crisp
Harry Ola wrote:

twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1017269222651711488



It really does seem like the US has become a police state where people can get arrested for anything.

The land of the free idea is beyond a joke now.

Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:34 am
by Hexx
"I'm a very stable genius"

And everyone's been thanking him for sorting this mess out.

Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:35 am
by Photek
Listening to trumps conference on James O’Brien who’s pointing out his bull gooseberry fool everything he lies, it’s great.

Re: US Politics - Trump demands NATO allies spend 4% GDP on defence instead of agreed 2% target

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:37 am
by Moggy
Obama allowed Crimea, Trump wouldn’t have.

:lol: