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Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:17 pm
by Mini E
Corazon de Leon wrote:Not sure where to put this, but I've just been given the go-ahead to write an article for a reasonably well-known(err, well-known is a relative term) academic journal on the protest music of the George W. Bush era, which I am absolutely buzzing about.


I'm looking forward to reading this :)

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:32 pm
by Dual
Cuttooth wrote:

twitter.com/damianpaletta/status/1326247037348814850



Thank god Trump isn't a fascist though.


What's the definition of a coup d'état?

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:36 pm
by Corazon de Leon
Thanks Mini E! I'll try and blag an e-copy for the lads. :lol:

Tafdolphin wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:Not sure where to put this, but I've just been given the go-ahead to write an article for a reasonably well-known(err, well-known is a relative term) academic journal on the protest music of the George W. Bush era, which I am absolutely buzzing about.


This is excellent Cora! Was your pitch inspired by the Lindsay Ellis video by any chance?


No, I'd never heard of her until recently and only watched that after creating the pitch(Banjo can vouch for me here)! I actually take a vastly different stance on the subject than she does and am focusing on stuff from specific music genres that I think she glossed over a wee bit. I've no idea how I would go about doing it but there's a guy called Scott Goodstein who worked on the Punk Voter initiative and ended up doing some digital campaign work for Obama in 2008 who I'd love to have a few words with on the subject.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:07 pm
by Albert
I'm with Taf, think you should find your own ideas to write about.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:23 pm
by Samuel_1
Dual wrote:
Cuttooth wrote:

twitter.com/damianpaletta/status/1326247037348814850



Thank god Trump isn't a fascist though.


What's the definition of a coup d'état?

strawberry floating hell :fp: :dread:

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:28 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Definitely on the path to an attempted coup and civil war right now.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:51 pm
by Ironhide
Alvin Flummux wrote:Definitely on the path to an attempted coup and civil war right now.


US civil war 2: Electric Boogaloo

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:03 pm
by Knoyleo
Corazon de Leon wrote:Thanks Mini E! I'll try and blag an e-copy for the lads. :lol:

Tafdolphin wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:Not sure where to put this, but I've just been given the go-ahead to write an article for a reasonably well-known(err, well-known is a relative term) academic journal on the protest music of the George W. Bush era, which I am absolutely buzzing about.


This is excellent Cora! Was your pitch inspired by the Lindsay Ellis video by any chance?


No, I'd never heard of her until recently and only watched that after creating the pitch(Banjo can vouch for me here)! I actually take a vastly different stance on the subject than she does and am focusing on stuff from specific music genres that I think she glossed over a wee bit. I've no idea how I would go about doing it but there's a guy called Scott Goodstein who worked on the Punk Voter initiative and ended up doing some digital campaign work for Obama in 2008 who I'd love to have a few words with on the subject.

Well at least you're off to a good start!

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:05 pm
by SEP
I doubt a civil war would last long. A bunch of undisciplined, disorganized, poorly-equipped manchildren against the most highly trained and equipped army on the planet?

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:07 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:I doubt a civil war would last long. A bunch of undisciplined, disorganized, poorly-equipped manchildren against the most highly trained and equipped army on the planet?


Not a great matchup unless it becomes a guerilla war, which the US military doesn't have a great track record fighting.

Clearly there are political calculations being made by these people that we aren't privy to. Maybe they're stalling for time to try to force a Supreme Court decision.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:08 pm
by Knoyleo
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:I doubt a civil war would last long. A bunch of undisciplined, disorganized, poorly-equipped manchildren against the most highly trained and equipped army on the planet?

The American military has traditionally never struggled against less well equipped and less trained opposition.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:11 pm
by That
I assume a large proportion of the US military are MAGA chuds, so I don't think it's necessarily obvious what would happen there if Trump gets serious about doing a coup.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:19 pm
by Moggy
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:I doubt a civil war would last long. A bunch of undisciplined, disorganized, poorly-equipped manchildren against the most highly trained and equipped army on the planet?


What side are the Vietnamese on?

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:23 pm
by Squinty
Moggy wrote:
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:I doubt a civil war would last long. A bunch of undisciplined, disorganized, poorly-equipped manchildren against the most highly trained and equipped army on the planet?


What side are the Vietnamese on?


Image

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:25 pm
by Moggy
Squinty wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:I doubt a civil war would last long. A bunch of undisciplined, disorganized, poorly-equipped manchildren against the most highly trained and equipped army on the planet?


What side are the Vietnamese on?


Image


:lol:

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:25 pm
by Tomous
Karl_ wrote:I assume a large proportion of the US military are MAGA chuds, so I don't think it's necessarily obvious what would happen there if Trump gets serious about doing a coup.


I think the military vote was pretty evenly split-Trump has pissed off the military on numerous occasions.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:43 pm
by That
An even split is much better than I'd feared to be honest! Sadly still implies there are quite a lot of soldiers who might be hardcore MAGA though.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:44 pm
by Saint of Killers

twitter.com/OversightDems/status/1326289047933816836


Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:12 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Karl_ wrote:An even split is much better than I'd feared to be honest! Sadly still implies there are quite a lot of soldiers who might be hardcore MAGA though.


In places like Pittsburgh, I'm given to understand that the military vote was decidedly pro-Biden, and I'm also given to understand from Reddit and Imgur comments made by those serving that the officer corps, being more educated and whatnot, has been increasingly angry with the administration for some time.

I know that the military generally skews conservative, and I know that a certain percentage of it will inevitably be MAGA chuddites, but I think here the split would probably be closer to 70/30.

There's just no way the senior leadership is going to countenance backing a coup.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:51 pm
by Lex-Man
A lot of the rank and file might back Trump. It seems unlikely although in guessing that a second US civil war is one was 2021 could be worse than 2020 so it'll probably happen.