USA School Shooting Number 866382948569

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PostRe: USA School Shooting Number 866382948569
by Hyperion » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:59 am

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KK wrote:If I was living in America, I'd definitely have a gun. Wouldn't walk down the street with it, but I'd certainly have one at home somewhere. But a gun would only ever come into play during a burglary. At any other time, unless I was walking around with it 24/7, the odds of me being able to access it would be slim. He or they pull a gun on me, I'm still stuck. The opportunity to shoot them has gone. And even if I had a gun on me, I'm still probably getting shot first before I can return fire.


So why would you have a gun?

Because if a burglary was taking place, I'd just shoot them.


Ok cool. What if they burgled the gun?

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PostRe: USA School Shooting Number 866382948569
by Preezy » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:01 am

How do you burgle the gun? Do you mean steal the gun?

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:05 am

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Photek wrote:I've shot an AR-15, I can tell you first hand that while I'm not trained in any way to fire a weapon, I could shoot many targets as it's almost video game like in it's simplicity, there's virtually no recoil and the bullets dispense as with each press of the trigger. I shot at a few tree's and I could go through a magazine of 30 bullets in about 10 seconds If I wanted to. It took another 10 seconds to reload.

I felt literally terrified afterwards that these weapons are in existence in everyday life in the US. I mean I shot a hunting rifle and a shotgun and both have a massive kick back and are cumbersome to hold and aim. Saying banning Assault Rifles wouldn't solve anything is beyond stupid.


It is cool though isn't it?


I’m anti-gun but Dual is right. They are cool. :lol:

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PostRe: USA School Shooting Number 866382948569
by Parksey » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:10 am

Where are we expecting change to come from?

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That's Trump being the first sitting President to speak at the NRA Convention.

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That's Trump being officially endorsed for President by the NRA.

The big problem is, regardless of whether your pro-guns or not (and I can sort of understand people thinking "I need a gun in my house to protect my family, as everyone else is going to have one", even if I don't agree with it), I am amazed that people are so partisan to own party, to own candidate or to one way of thinking, that they think it's fine for a certain group to have the President in the pocket and have such influence of him.

The UK isn't perfect by any means, but if Theresa May suddenly spoke at a Heinz convention, and was pictured being hugged by a big anthromorphic tin of baked beans and saying how much she loves baked beans and ate them as often as possible and actually all that coughing was because she was swigging the bean juice from an open can of baked beans positioned on her lecturn, but then suddenly when it turned out there was actually a fuckton of mercury in the baked beans supply and was poisoning loads of kids who had been eating baked beans, if she came back out and said: "Guys, it's not the baked beans that are the problem, and you should all just go out and eat some delicious baked beans", I think we'd probably all be a little supsicious about how our leader was making her decisions.

Baked beans.

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PostRe: USA School Shooting Number 866382948569
by Hyperion » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:12 am

Preezy wrote:How do you burgle the gun? Do you mean steal the gun?

Nope

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by Jenu-All I Want For Christmas » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:14 am

Great, now I want to eat some delicious baked beans. Parksey doing some great stealth marketing for Heinz!

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PostRe: USA School Shooting Number 866382948569
by Parksey » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:18 am

The only thing that stops a bad guy with baked beans is a good guy with some baked beans. That, or some lovely toast.

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PostRe: USA School Shooting Number 866382948569
by Ho-Ho-Ho-tek » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:27 am

Parksey wrote:The only thing that stops a bad guy with baked beans is a good guy with some baked beans. That, or some lovely toast.

I'm strawberry floating starving now. :x

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by Jenu-All I Want For Christmas » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:52 am

Photek wrote:
Parksey wrote:The only thing that stops a bad guy with baked beans is a good guy with some baked beans. That, or some lovely toast.

I'm strawberry floating starving now. :x


I'm feeling the need for an impromptu brunch-break at work now...

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PostRe: USA School Shooting Number 866382948569
by bear » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:22 am

captain red dog wrote:Whilst the mass shootings cause the most outrage, that's not where the massive majority of gun deaths are caused. Only a proper ban on guns would make a significant difference.

If you look at the statistics, it is scary how many more people are being blown away outside of these mass shootings. Ok ban AR-15s and you potentially end Vegas style incidents, and that's obviously good. But you still have an absolutely obscene and disgusting number of people being shot to death on a daily basis.

Half hearted solutions are not the answer, America needs to have the serious and painful conversation about the second amendment.

Define a significant difference.


A 1% reduction in gun deaths would be 150+ lives saved. Not statistically significant difference but that's a lot of people.

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PostRe: USA School Shooting Number 866382948569
by Return_of_the_STAR » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:34 am

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Whereas pushing an agenda that ensures more people have guns is fine while that blood is still drying.


I can't believe this guy ignored the 'gun free zone' at the school, there must have been posters up advising him of it. Awful. If we taught our kids to read better then innocent children would not be dying. #blamereadingstandards #gunsrcoolteachkidstoread

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PostRe: USA School Shooting Number 866382948569
by OrangeReindeer » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:46 pm



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PostRe: USA School Shooting Number 866382948569
by Vermi-Claus » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:29 pm

Hyperion wrote:Ok cool. What if they burgled the gun?


What if there's no ammo in the burgled gun? We all know from the other day's discussion just how important ammo is.

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by Hyperion » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:33 pm

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Hyperion wrote:Ok cool. What if they burgled the gun?


What if there's no ammo in the burgled gun? We all know from the other day's discussion just how important ammo is.


What if there's no gun and just bullets. Do you throw them?

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by Vermi-Claus » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:35 pm

Hyperion wrote:What if there's no gun and just bullets. Do you throw them?


Only if you say 'bang bang' while doing so.

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PostRe: USA School Shooting Number 866382948569
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:41 pm



And that’s why nothing will change.

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PostRe: USA School Shooting Number 866382948569
by Peter Crisp » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:08 pm

If the current death toll doesn't persuade people that gun laws need to change I don't think anything will.
I get the feeling that even if the total rose by 1000% the same old arguments would still be trotted out.

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Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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by *<]:^D » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:11 pm

KK wrote:
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KK wrote:If I was living in America, I'd definitely have a gun. Wouldn't walk down the street with it, but I'd certainly have one at home somewhere. But a gun would only ever come into play during a burglary. At any other time, unless I was walking around with it 24/7, the odds of me being able to access it would be slim. He or they pull a gun on me, I'm still stuck. The opportunity to shoot them has gone. And even if I had a gun on me, I'm still probably getting shot first before I can return fire.


So why would you have a gun?

Because if a burglary was taking place, I'd just shoot them.


you pull a gun during a home invasion and the burglar will kill you and your family. let them take your stuff; its replaceable.

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PostRe: USA School Shooting Number 866382948569
by Peter Crisp » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:16 pm

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KK wrote:
Hyperion wrote:
KK wrote:If I was living in America, I'd definitely have a gun. Wouldn't walk down the street with it, but I'd certainly have one at home somewhere. But a gun would only ever come into play during a burglary. At any other time, unless I was walking around with it 24/7, the odds of me being able to access it would be slim. He or they pull a gun on me, I'm still stuck. The opportunity to shoot them has gone. And even if I had a gun on me, I'm still probably getting shot first before I can return fire.


So why would you have a gun?

Because if a burglary was taking place, I'd just shoot them.


you pull a gun during a home invasion and the burglar will kill you and your family. let them take your stuff; its replaceable.


I agree.
Nothing in your house is worth being killed for.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: USA School Shooting Number 866382948569
by Blue Eyes » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:17 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:If the current death toll doesn't persuade people that gun laws need to change I don't think anything will.
I get the feeling that even if the total rose by 1000% the same old arguments would still be trotted out.

Yep. Reason is strawberry floated.


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