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PostRe: USTV Chat - Finale of Survivor tonight
by satriales » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:53 am

I'm really looking forward to watching the Survivor finale later. The season started off quite weak but the last few episodes have been brilliant.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Finale of Survivor tonight
by Drumstick » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:29 am

satriales wrote:I'm really looking forward to watching the Survivor finale later. The season started off quite weak but the last few episodes have been brilliant.

Yeah totally! I’ve found this season really fun, it was a slow start but they spent a lot of time pre-merge setting everything up and now we’re getting the pay off.

I’m thinking that Ben winning is too obvious, on top of being public enemy number one, he has been such a heavy on screen presence literally every single episode. CBS usually doesn’t edit their winner like that. My pre-season winner pick was actually Devon (which was based on all the podcasts that were recorded before the season started filming). He’s definitely a lot more savvy than he’s coming across when not in confessionals and he said that was going to be part of his plan. He’s really not had all that much negativity, still not had a vote against him, everyone seems to like him and nobody seems to see him as a threat.

I think everyone has a shot, but in this order: Ben > Devon > Mike > Chrissy > Ryan.

I think Mike has a decent shot. They’ve got two attempts to deny Ben immunity and Mike could make Chrissy and Ryan see how big a threat Devon is.

My only gripe with this season is that I feel it’s gone overboard on the idols. Post-merge, 5 have been played (Joe, Mike, Ryan and Ben x2). I get that they add excitement and unpredictability but I personally feel it’s moving the game away from ‘Survivor’ to ‘Who can find the idol’. There was also the super-idol Ryan gave to Chrissy, the idol that Lauren never played because Mike threw half of it in the fire, and Joe used one pre-merge to save Desi at the tribal where Devon was vote-blocked.

Other than that I think it’s been a really strong cast, full of people that want to play the game and people that are fans of the game to boot. Looking forward to the finale tonight.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Finale of Survivor tonight
by satriales » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:30 pm

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satriales wrote:I'm really looking forward to watching the Survivor finale later. The season started off quite weak but the last few episodes have been brilliant.

Yeah totally! I’ve found this season really fun, it was a slow start but they spent a lot of time pre-merge setting everything up and now we’re getting the pay off.

I’m thinking that Ben winning is too obvious, on top of being public enemy number one, he has been such a heavy on screen presence literally every single episode. CBS usually doesn’t edit their winner like that. My pre-season winner pick was actually Devon (which was based on all the podcasts that were recorded before the season started filming). He’s definitely a lot more savvy than he’s coming across when not in confessionals and he said that was going to be part of his plan. He’s really not had all that much negativity, still not had a vote against him, everyone seems to like him and nobody seems to see him as a threat.

I think everyone has a shot, but in this order: Ben > Devon > Mike > Chrissy > Ryan.

I think Mike has a decent shot. They’ve got two attempts to deny Ben immunity and Mike could make Chrissy and Ryan see how big a threat Devon is.

My only gripe with this season is that I feel it’s gone overboard on the idols. Post-merge, 5 have been played (Joe, Mike, Ryan and Ben x2). I get that they add excitement and unpredictability but I personally feel it’s moving the game away from ‘Survivor’ to ‘Who can find the idol’. There was also the super-idol Ryan gave to Chrissy, the idol that Lauren never played because Mike threw half of it in the fire, and Joe used one pre-merge to save Desi at the tribal where Devon was vote-blocked.

Other than that I think it’s been a really strong cast, full of people that want to play the game and people that are fans of the game to boot. Looking forward to the finale tonight.

Yeah agree with all of that.

Ben is clearly the best player, but him getting to final 3 would make for a boring final tribal council as he's guaranteed the win. I don't think he'll win both challenges to get there but he'll be back for an all-stars I'm sure.

I have a gut feeling that Chrissy is going to win, but I hope not. Devon could probably convince a jury to vote for him when he explains the awesome 'double agent ben' idea that he came up with. Mike as a surprise underdog is another possibility. I don't see any way Ryan can take it, which means he should be guaranteed a seat at the final three.

I guess I see the final three as Mike, Ryan and the winner.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Finale of Survivor
by Drumstick » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:38 pm

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I have such a massive problem with this finale.
This new twist they've put in basically renders final immunity totally pointless. You can lose and still win the firemaking contest and get to the end. All this does is make Final Five the new Final Four - the biggest threats just have to go one spot earlier - but with idols and the like valid until Final 5... It's all stupid.

Having one every season now cheapens the drama of when one happens organically.

Jeff Probst has said that they put this in because he was annoyed at seeing so many final jurors being eliminated because they were likely to win. What he forgets is that this was the exact reason that they changed from a Final 2 to Final 3. Where does it end?

I don't have any problems with Ben the person being the winner, but he really shouldn't have been eligible to win. Final immunity is supposed to be what it says - Final. If you can't get the job done, sorry, you're potentially on the jury. Speaking of the jury, I still dislike the new discussion format.

And it seems like they're doubling down on the massive amount of advantages next season.

All that aside, I liked most of the episode. I thought the following bits were good:

- Ben's sheer will and bloody-mindedness to never give up on searching for the idol.
- Devon sniffing out Ben's final immunity idol and saving himself by voting for Mike. Amazing.
- Chrissy's idea to use the dead super idol with Ryan's note to construct a legit rouse. Shame Ben had already found the new idol but it was a nice idea.
- Chrissy' final tribal performance has to go down as one of the best losing performances. Very impressive,
but ultimately Ben had so clearly outplayed everyone that it didn't matter

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Mid-Season finales of Life in Pieces & Young Sheldon
by Memento Mori » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:07 pm

Binged American Vandal recently. It's a genuinely good whodunnit.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Finale of Survivor
by satriales » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:59 pm

Harry Ellis wrote:Survivor
I have such a massive problem with this finale.
This new twist they've put in basically renders final immunity totally pointless. You can lose and still win the firemaking contest and get to the end. All this does is make Final Five the new Final Four - the biggest threats just have to go one spot earlier - but with idols and the like valid until Final 5... It's all stupid.

Having one every season now cheapens the drama of when one happens organically.

Jeff Probst has said that they put this in because he was annoyed at seeing so many final jurors being eliminated because they were likely to win. What he forgets is that this was the exact reason that they changed from a Final 2 to Final 3. Where does it end?

I don't have any problems with Ben the person being the winner, but he really shouldn't have been eligible to win. Final immunity is supposed to be what it says - Final. If you can't get the job done, sorry, you're potentially on the jury. Speaking of the jury, I still dislike the new discussion format.

And it seems like they're doubling down on the massive amount of advantages next season.

All that aside, I liked most of the episode. I thought the following bits were good:

- Ben's sheer will and bloody-mindedness to never give up on searching for the idol.
- Devon sniffing out Ben's final immunity idol and saving himself by voting for Mike. Amazing.
- Chrissy's idea to use the dead super idol with Ryan's note to construct a legit rouse. Shame Ben had already found the new idol but it was a nice idea.
- Chrissy' final tribal performance has to go down as one of the best losing performances. Very impressive,
but ultimately Ben had so clearly outplayed everyone that it didn't matter

So while watching the finale I thought it was brilliant, but I was rooting for Ben the whole way. In hindsight I agree with a lot of the criticisms, but I still feel Ben deserved the win over the other three (Devon could have made for a good winner too)

There was definitely too many idols this season but that's because they were being played soon after they were found and then put straight back into the game again. I think the problem isn't with the idol rules but that they were too easy to find. Instead of having to dig around trees or look under rocks, they just have to find some graffiti on a tree. When they add secret advantages and super idols in too then that should be instead of idols, not in addition to them.

The firemaking challenge for final 4 is a big improvement IMO. I know Survivor is a social game and you need to avoid painting a target on your back, but I like that there's always a way to survive if you have that target and don't win the challenge. This season for example, Ben was already the big target with ~10 Players left, well before he'd played any idols. But with 10 players you just need to sway 1 or 2 people and that target can be removed, but when there are three people that refuse to talk to you (purely because you are favourite to win) it seems unfair that you have no options if you don't win immunity.

Players in the next season were told about the change beforehand, so it just means they will be thinking about final 4 rather than final 3. I'd definitely like to see how it plays next time (with players aware) before writing it off completely. I do think the challenge should change occasionally though, so it's not always fire-making.

I agree with all of your good bits. Devon writing Mike's name down would have sealed it for him to win if he'd beaten Ben at making fire.

I wasn't so keen on the final tribal council but I feel it was edited to make Ryan and Chrissy look good so that it wasn't so obvious that Ben was going to win once he got there.

The reunion show was bad, they didn't talk to anyone. The highlight reel was great though and next season looks interesting, but I've no idea how it will work.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Finale of Survivor
by Drumstick » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:52 pm

satriales wrote:
Harry Ellis wrote:Survivor
I have such a massive problem with this finale.
This new twist they've put in basically renders final immunity totally pointless. You can lose and still win the firemaking contest and get to the end. All this does is make Final Five the new Final Four - the biggest threats just have to go one spot earlier - but with idols and the like valid until Final 5... It's all stupid.

Having one every season now cheapens the drama of when one happens organically.

Jeff Probst has said that they put this in because he was annoyed at seeing so many final jurors being eliminated because they were likely to win. What he forgets is that this was the exact reason that they changed from a Final 2 to Final 3. Where does it end?

I don't have any problems with Ben the person being the winner, but he really shouldn't have been eligible to win. Final immunity is supposed to be what it says - Final. If you can't get the job done, sorry, you're potentially on the jury. Speaking of the jury, I still dislike the new discussion format.

And it seems like they're doubling down on the massive amount of advantages next season.

All that aside, I liked most of the episode. I thought the following bits were good:

- Ben's sheer will and bloody-mindedness to never give up on searching for the idol.
- Devon sniffing out Ben's final immunity idol and saving himself by voting for Mike. Amazing.
- Chrissy's idea to use the dead super idol with Ryan's note to construct a legit rouse. Shame Ben had already found the new idol but it was a nice idea.
- Chrissy' final tribal performance has to go down as one of the best losing performances. Very impressive,
but ultimately Ben had so clearly outplayed everyone that it didn't matter

So while watching the finale I thought it was brilliant, but I was rooting for Ben the whole way. In hindsight I agree with a lot of the criticisms, but I still feel Ben deserved the win over the other three (Devon could have made for a good winner too)

There was definitely too many idols this season but that's because they were being played soon after they were found and then put straight back into the game again. I think the problem isn't with the idol rules but that they were too easy to find. Instead of having to dig around trees or look under rocks, they just have to find some graffiti on a tree. When they add secret advantages and super idols in too then that should be instead of idols, not in addition to them.

The firemaking challenge for final 4 is a big improvement IMO. I know Survivor is a social game and you need to avoid painting a target on your back, but I like that there's always a way to survive if you have that target and don't win the challenge. This season for example, Ben was already the big target with ~10 Players left, well before he'd played any idols. But with 10 players you just need to sway 1 or 2 people and that target can be removed, but when there are three people that refuse to talk to you (purely because you are favourite to win) it seems unfair that you have no options if you don't win immunity.

Players in the next season were told about the change beforehand, so it just means they will be thinking about final 4 rather than final 3. I'd definitely like to see how it plays next time (with players aware) before writing it off completely. I do think the challenge should change occasionally though, so it's not always fire-making.

I agree with all of your good bits. Devon writing Mike's name down would have sealed it for him to win if he'd beaten Ben at making fire.

I wasn't so keen on the final tribal council but I feel it was edited to make Ryan and Chrissy look good so that it wasn't so obvious that Ben was going to win once he got there.

The reunion show was bad, they didn't talk to anyone. The highlight reel was great though and next season looks interesting, but I've no idea how it will work.

Don't get me wrong, Ben definitely deserved his win - I just don't like the way it went down. Almost seemed like production decided to throw in a curve ball to try and save him. If I was into conspiracies I could buy that,
but I'm not, so I don't. ;)

I really don't like the fact that production have made the mandatory fire making a permanent fixture without seeing how it was received first.

If you think I'm unhappy you should check out the Survivor Reddit - some of them are completely apoplectic and have vowed to never watch the show again. :lol:

That reunion show... What reunion show. They spoke to 3 people aside from Ben for a total of about 6 minutes.

What did you make of the preview for next season?

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Finale of Survivor
by satriales » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:01 pm

Harry Ellis wrote:What did you make of the preview for next season?

The set looks really cool, and two starting tribes instead of three is good. Cast looks very young, I prefer a varied mix of people. I like that always try something different but it's hard to guess the mechanics based on that preview.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Season finale of The Girlfriend Experience tonight
by Monkey Man » Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:36 am

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The Mantis (La Mante), Season One, Friday 29th December (New). All episodes that day on Netflix UK.

Decades after her capture, a serial killer offers to help solve a string of copycat murders -- but only if her son, now a cop, will work by her side.

https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80208337

Trailer at the link above.

No reviews on metacritic.

Returning Shows this week

American Dad 25th December (New)
Black Mirror 29th December (New) - all episodes that day on Netflix UK

Finales this week (UK Days)

Monday - Season finale of The Girlfriend Experience.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Shameless & SMILF returns tonight
by Monkey Man » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:45 pm

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9-1-1 S01E01, Wednesdays in the US.

From prolific creators Ryan Murphy and Brad Falchuk, new procedural drama 9-1-1 is a fast-paced exploration into the lives and careers of first responders – cops, paramedics, firefighters – the people who put their lives on the line to save others. 9-1-1 will premiere following the debut of the next thrilling chapter of THE X-FILES, Wednesday, Jan. 3 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. Starring Academy and Emmy Award nominee and Golden Globe winner Angela Bassett (“American Horror Story,” “What’s Love Got to Do with It”), the series is based on the real-life, high-pressure experiences of emergency response providers who are thrust into heart-stopping situations that are equal parts unpredictable, intense and uplifting. These emergency responders must try to balance saving those who are at their most vulnerable with solving the problems in their own lives.

https://www.fox.com/9-1-1/



62% on metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/tv/9-1-1

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LA to Vegas S01E01, Tuesdays in the US.

New comedy LA TO VEGAS will premiere on Tuesday, Jan. 2 (9:00-9:30 PM ET/PT) on FOX. From executive producers Will Ferrell (“Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy,” “Elf”), Adam McKay (“The Big Short”), Lon Zimmet (“Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt”), Chris Henchy (“Entourage,” “The Other Guys”), Owen Burke (“Drunk History”) and executive producer/director Steve Levitan (“Modern Family”), LA TO VEGAS is a workplace comedy about an airline crew and the eccentric passengers who, every weekend, take a no-frills roundtrip flight from Los Angeles to Las Vegas with one goal in mind – to come back a winner.

https://www.fox.com/la-to-vegas/



40% on metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/tv/la-to-vegas

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grown-ish S01E01, Wednesdays in the US.

Follow Zoey Johnson as she heads to college and begins her hilarious journey to adulthood in this new comedy coming January 3!

https://freeform.go.com/shows/grown-ish



1 review of 60% on metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/tv/grown-ish

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Rotten, Friday 5th January. Documentary that day on Netflix UK.

This docuseries travels deep into the heart of the food supply chain to reveal unsavory truths and expose hidden forces that shape what we eat.

https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80146284



No reviews yet on metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/tv/rotten

Returning Shows this week

Shameless 31st December
SMILF 31st December
The Gifted 1st January
Valor 1st January
Lucifer 1st January
Fresh Off The Boat 2nd January
Lethal Weapon 2nd January
NCIS 2nd January
NCIS:NO 2nd January
The Mick 2nd January
blackish 2nd January
Bull 2nd January 2nd January
Chicago Med 2nd January
Kevin (probably) Saves The World 2nd January
The Middle 2nd January
The X-Files 3rd January (New)
Speechless 3rd January
The Blacklist 3rd January
Seal Team 3rd January
Criminal Minds 3rd January
Modern Family 3rd January
Chicago PD 3rd January
The Good Place 4th January
The Big Bang Theory 4th January
Life In Pieces 4th January
S.W.A.T 4th January
Nashville 4th January (New)
Chicago Fire 4th January
Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD 5th January
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend 5th January
Blue Bloods 5th January
Hawaii Five-O 5th January
Macgyver 5th January

Finales this week (UK Days)

Friday - Season finale of Van Helsing.
Sunday - Season finale of Ten Days in the Valley.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - LA to Vegas debuts
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PostRe: USTV Chat - The Chi debuts & Star Trek: Discovery returns tonight
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The Chi S01E01, Sundays in the US.

On Chicago's south side, an average day finds kids prepping for school as their parents head off to work, young adults trying to make a living, and the elders keeping an eye on things from their front porches. But in this tough neighborhood, real dangers threaten daily to squelch dreams, and the simplest decisions can have life or death consequences. The Chi is a timely coming-of-age drama series centered on a group of residents who become linked by coincidence but bonded by the need for connection and redemption.

http://www.sho.com/the-chi



75% on metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/tv/the-chi

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My Next Guest Needs No Introduction with David Letterman, Friday 12th January. Monthly episode that day on Netflix UK, 1st guest is Obama.

David Letterman is out of retirement and returning to television with a six-episode, 60-minute Netflix series -- My Next Guest Needs No Introduction with David Letterman. The first episode will premiere on Friday, January 12, 2018 with each subsequent episode streaming monthly from February to June. Dave’s lineup of influential guests includes George Clooney, Malala Yousafzai, Jay-Z, Tina Fey, Howard Stern and President Barack Obama.

https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80209096



No reviews on metacritic.

Returning Shows this week

Star Trek: Discovery 7th January
Family Guy 7th January
Ghosted 7th January
The Last Man On Earth 7th January
Madam Secretary 7th January
NCIS:LA 7th January
The Simpsons 7th January
The Brave 8th January
The Good Doctor 8th January
This Is Us 9th January
The Fosters 9th January
The Magicians 10th January (New)
Blindspot 12th January
Taken 12th January (New)

Finales this week (UK Days)

No finales this week.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - The Brave returns
by Monkey Man » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:26 pm

‘Marvel’s Runaways’ & ‘Future Man’ Renewed By Hulu For Season 2 - http://deadline.com/2018/01/marvels-run ... 202238683/

Both good shows so happy for a return.

‘Floribama Shore’ Renewed For Season 2 By MTV - http://deadline.com/2018/01/floribama-s ... 202237447/

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PostRe: USTV Chat - The Brave returns & Marvel’s Runaways finale
by Memento Mori » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:30 pm

I still haven't watched Runaways.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Crashing & Divorce return tonight
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Black Lightning S01E01, Tuesdays in the US.

Jefferson Pierce is a man wrestling with a secret. Nine years ago, Pierce was gifted with the superhuman power to harness and control electricity, which he used to keep his hometown streets safe as the masked vigilante Black Lightning. However, after too many nights with his life and his family on the line, he left his Super Hero days behind. Almost a decade later, Pierce’s crime-fighting days are long behind him…or so he thought. But with crime and corruption spreading like wildfire, Black Lightning returns — to save not only his family, but also the soul of his community.

https://www.facebook.com/CWBlackLightning/



78% on metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/tv/black-lightning

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The Assassination Of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story S01E01, Wednesdays in the US.

The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story is the second installment of FX’s award-winning American Crime Story series.

https://www.fxnowcanada.ca/shows/americ ... i-versace/



78% on metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/tv/the-assass ... rime-story

Returning Shows this week

Crashing 14th January (New)
Divorce 14th January (New)
Supergirl 15th January
The Gifted 15th January
Scorpion 15th January
Valor 15th January
The Flash 16th January
Riverdale 17th January
Dynasty 17th January
The Path 17th January (New)
Supernatural 18th January
Arrow 18th January
Grey’s Anatomy 18th January
Scandal 18th January
How To Get Away With Murder 18th January
High Maintenance 19th January (New)

Finales this week (UK Days)

Friday - Season finale of Superstition.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - High Maintenance returns tonight
by Monkey Man » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:57 pm

‘The Tick’ Renewed For Season 2 At Amazon - http://deadline.com/2018/01/the-tick-re ... 202244535/

‘One Mississippi’, ‘I Love Dick’ & ‘Jean-Claude Van Johnson’ Canceled By Amazon - http://deadline.com/2018/01/one-mississ ... 202245153/

‘Grown-ish’ Renewed For Season 2 - http://deadline.com/2018/01/grown-ish-r ... 202248308/

‘The Shannara Chronicles’ Canceled - http://deadline.com/2018/01/the-shannar ... 202244383/

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Counterpart & The Resident debut tonight
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Counterpart S01E01, Sundays in the US.

Academy Award Winner J.K. Simmons plays Howard Silk, a cog of a Berlin-based United Nations spy agency. Howard is thrust into a shadow world of intrigue and danger, where the only man he can trust is "Prime".

https://www.starz.com/series/counterpart/episodes



75% on metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/tv/counterpart

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Mosaic S01E01, Monday in the US and then over the next five nights.

A twisting tale of passion, intrigue and deception, conceived and directed by Steven Soderbergh. Mosaic focuses on the disappearance of a high-profile resident of picturesque Summit, Utah and the four-year effort by law-enforcement and civilians to discover the truth behind the crime.

https://www.hbo.com/mosaic



73% on metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/tv/mosaic

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The Alienist S01E01, Mondays in the US.

The Alienist is a psychological thriller set in 1896 about the hunt for a serial killer responsible for the gruesome murders of boy prostitutes that have gripped New York City. Based on the novel by Caleb Carr.

http://www.tntdrama.com/shows/the-alienist



67% on metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/tv/the-alienist

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Waco S01E01, Wednesdays in the US.

Michael Shannon and Taylor Kitsch co-star in the scripted event series based on the 1993 Waco, Texas siege.

http://www.paramountnetwork.com/shows/waco



1 review of 55% on metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/tv/waco

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The Resident S01E01, Sunday in the US then Mondays every week.

THE RESIDENT is a powerful new medical drama focusing on the final years of a young doctor’s training that rips back the curtain to reveal the truth of what really happens, both good and bad, in hospitals across the country.

https://www.fox.com/the-resident/



55% on metacritic - http://www.metacritic.com/tv/the-resident

Returning Shows this week

Lucifer 22nd January
NCIS 23rd January
NCIS:NO 23rd January
Bull 23rd January
Another Period 23rd January (New)
The Detour 23rd January (New)
Baskets 23rd January (New)
Dirty Money 26th January (New) - documentary that day on Netflix UK
Jane the Virgin 26th January
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend 26th January

Finales this week (UK Days)

Friday - Season finale of Great News.

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