Vinyl issues

PostVinyl issues by **Fruits Punch Samurai** » Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:23 am

I've recently obtained a cheap vinyl player from a friend and I've encountered a fairly big problem with it. I was playing one vinyl and the track would keep looping one passage towards the end. I initially thought this was a problem with the record itself, but I've noticed the same issue seems to happen on every record I play, always towards the end.

I'm not sure how to fix it, as this is my first vinyl player. Is it possible the needle needs replacing, or maybe something else?

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Pedro** » Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:33 am

What record player is it? Does it have a seperate counterweight? Does it do the same thing on 45's? It won'tbe your needle if it only happens towards the centre of rrecords. Have you used a spirit level to check that the table is horizontal?

Again, sorry for the large number of questions.

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Fruits Punch Samurai** » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:10 am

It's a Steepletone player and has a loose plastic circle in the corner which could be the counterweight? It did it on a standard record and a mini single record. I haven't done a spirit check.

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Fruits Punch Samurai** » Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:05 pm

I think I fixed it through repetition of playing that part of the records. Not happening now. Odd.

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **chanticleer** » Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:57 pm

The only reasons that a section of a record would loop over and over are:

- The record was deliberately pressed that way (like at the very end of Sgt Peppers)

- The tonearm is pushing up against something and is unable to keep moving across. Sometimes happens at the counterweight end. You might find it happening if a lid is oddly positioned or you have something close to the player itself.

- The record player or the platter isn't level, it's badly designed or cheaply made, and the needle falls back due to gravity.

I suspect that your problem is probably the second point, but...

Fruits Punch Samurai wrote:It's a Steepletone player

That's probably the issue. They're very cheaply made players that, frankly, will more than likely damage the record that's being played. I really hope you're not paying £15+ for new release LPs and playing them on a Steepletone. It'll damage the discs and sound terrible - like paying for the finest whisky and mixing it with coke. If you need a cheapish all-in-one portable, consider the Vestax Handytrax. If you want to get everything possible out of a record, think about getting a cheapish amp, some speakers, and either a Rega RP1 or a Pro-ject Debut.

I'm not on here very much. If you've any questions, drop me a pm.

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Fruits Punch Samurai** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:17 am

Okay, I have some money for a new vinyl player. What would be the best budget priced vinyl player and speaker set to go for?

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Pedro** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:02 pm

Depends on the budget, not being flippant, but that word really means different things to different people. The Project range is commonly recommended for starters - I myself started with a Debut III. The Debut Carbon (at £299) is a very good first turntable. Rega RP1's are similarly well liked. However, if you're talking cheaper then that, then second hand may be better, if you can get it from a reputable dealer.

YouTube · PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Stugene** » Thu May 01, 2014 12:04 am

Pro-Ject Essential II

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Fruits Punch Samurai** » Thu May 01, 2014 11:23 pm

Thanks for the options, just need to decide on which one to ultimately go for. Meeting Thurston Moore tonight and getting some records signed has certainly got me in the mood to purchase as soon as possible.

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **chanticleer** » Fri May 02, 2014 2:37 pm

Fruits Punch Samurai » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:17 am wrote:Okay, I have some money for a new vinyl player. What would be the best budget priced vinyl player and speaker set to go for?

If your budget stretches to it, I'd go for:

- Rega RP1 record player
- Mission MX1 speakers
- Marantz PM5004 amplifier

You'll need some kind of amplifier between the speakers and the record player itself. If you get a decent one (like the Marantz one there) you'll be able to plug your TV, CD player, blu-ray etc into it too. If you want to cheapen it up a bit, you could just use a little stereo micro system like this one and, so long as it has standard stereo inputs on the back, you'll be able to plug the record player straight in.

If you want to go even cheaper, I had one of these Sony players for a few years and it's perfectly serviceable. It's not high end but, for a starter, it's not bad.

YouTube · PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Stugene** » Fri May 02, 2014 8:09 pm

chanticleer » Fri May 02, 2014 2:37 pm wrote:
Fruits Punch Samurai » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:17 am wrote:Okay, I have some money for a new vinyl player. What would be the best budget priced vinyl player and speaker set to go for?

If your budget stretches to it, I'd go for:

- Rega RP1 record player
- Mission MX1 speakers
- Marantz PM5004 amplifier

You'll need some kind of amplifier between the speakers and the record player itself. If you get a decent one (like the Marantz one there) you'll be able to plug your TV, CD player, blu-ray etc into it too. If you want to cheapen it up a bit, you could just use a little stereo micro system like this one and, so long as it has standard stereo inputs on the back, you'll be able to plug the record player straight in.

If you want to go even cheaper, I had one of these Sony players for a few years and it's perfectly serviceable. It's not high end but, for a starter, it's not bad.

I think the PM6004 is the one to go for now, or the Rotel RA-10 (if you can find the bugger anywhere).

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **nikeair** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:42 am

Your turntable will need a 'phono input' rather than the more common 'line inputs' available since the demise of vinyl some 25 years ago. If you go for the Rega P1 or Project Debut Carbon they are fitted with a moving magnet cartridge which will work well into a standard phono input - both the Marantz models mentioned have the required input, as does the Rotel. Happy listening

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Fruits Punch Samurai** » Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:23 pm

A bump. I've decided to go for a Project Debut Carbon, and will have the money for it in a few weeks. Now I'm wondering what speakers to go for. Any ideas on some for under 100 that would be decent for the system?

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Pedro** » Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:15 pm

What amp are you pairing them with? I always find speakers the biggest minefield (especially if you were to go second hand/vintage) purely because of the vast numbers out there. I would ask is £300+ turntable paired with sub £100 speakers the best move if you are buying new?

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Fruits Punch Samurai** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:04 pm

I'm not entirely sure. I've decided on the base, I just need these extra items for a complete set. Would it be better to get some more expensive speakers then? I'll probably be buying them a month later than the player, so I guess I can up the cost.

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Pedro** » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:02 pm

So are you buying a whole set up then? I don't want to discourage you, just not sure what components you have already.

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Fruits Punch Samurai** » Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:28 am

I have nothing at the minute, and getting the vinyl player next month. So would I just need an amp and speakers on top of that?

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Pedro** » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:58 pm

Amplifier with Phono input (which a lot of modern amps do not have - if not you'll also need a Phono Pre-amp) and speakers + wire and you're good to go.

Honestly, if you just want to start playing, then any amp/speakers/phono amp will do - you can upgrade at a later date.

I've had good experiences of buying this kit second hand. I've started buying vintage gear and I got my Sansui 551 off eBay from a seller who knew what he was selling. Similarly I bought an old Thorens turntable to replace my Project Debut (moved to a bedroom) and I bought an Okki Nokki vinyl cleaning machine as well :oops:

I replaced a Cambridge 640A that I've had for years (which itself was a replacement for my first basic Sony amp from when I was 15). My phono amp (necessary if you don't have a phono preamp) is a Rega Mono Mini - which is really great.

But I'm not trying to scare you, have a look around and you can easily grab something so you can start to play records - you can always upgrade components later. I would say buy cheap usually means buy twice. I've changed every component that I've had since I had seperates, but I've done it over 15 years, so I can't complain. If you are going for modern gear I still like buying at What Hifi Magazine - also realise what were 5-star bits of kit have suddenly become gooseberry fool because a newer model has come out - you can often grab the "old" model for cheap, because the company has updated their line.

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Fruits Punch Samurai** » Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:13 pm

So, I've ordered the Project Carbon Debut : http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00E9XIVQE/r ... R43XPPR8NZ
These wires: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Mountain- ... _mrai_2_dp
And this pre=amplifier: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0072RZ95U/r ... 6SRKAWJIR3

Just no sure what speakers to get. With any budget what would you recommend?

PostRe: Vinyl issues by **Pedro** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:05 pm

Are you going for powered speakers then? All do you have an amplifier already?

I have that pre-amp it's great.

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