Wesley Snipes Presents: Is tax theft or is all property theft?

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Is property theft or is tax theft?

Property is theft
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22%
Tax is theft
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11%
Neither
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33%
Both
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No votes
Don't know
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No votes
What the hell are you playing at
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33%
 
Total votes: 45
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PostRe: Wesley Snipes Presents: Is tax theft or is all property theft?
by Earfolds » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:11 pm

Regginator3 wrote:by common usage of the word

This is the problem, though. Common usage. As soon as it stops being common usage, it's no longer true, right?

Well, it's trivial to construct a society that values the bravery and cunning in winning riches from other people, and all of a sudden the common usage has changed. Funnily enough, this is actually how societies used to work before the state invented the concept of property rights.

For theft to be a thing, you have to have the right to the thing being thieved in the first place. Now, from where do you get those rights?

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PostRe: Wesley Snipes Presents: Is tax theft or is all property theft?
by Jenu-All I Want For Christmas » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:13 pm

I own my house. I pay for the maintenance, security and operation of my house.

Frank starts living in my spare room and using it as his base from which he lives his life.

Is it immoral that I either ask Frank to leave or to contribute to running the house that he is choosing to live in?

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PostRe: Wesley Snipes Presents: Is tax theft or is all property theft?
by Karl » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:16 pm

I have to say even though he's bowed out now I do admire Regg's stamina for almost single-handedly fighting this argument for 12 pages.

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PostRe: Wesley Snipes Presents: Is tax theft or is all property theft?
by Earfolds » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:20 pm

Karl wrote:I have to say even though he's bowed out now I do admire Regg's stamina for almost single-handedly fighting this argument for 12 pages.

Yeah, totally. It takes immense strength of character to stick with an argument when everyone else disagrees with you.

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PostRe: Wesley Snipes Presents: Is tax theft or is all property theft?
by smurphy » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:15 pm

He's the anti-Cal.

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PostRe: Wesley Snipes Presents: Is tax theft or is all property theft?
by Alvin Flummux » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:21 pm

Proposition: We begin a new thread series called "Forumite Lockdown" or something along those lines, where two members with opposing views on a subject are locked into the thread and must come to an agreement on the relevant issue before being allowed to leave. Nobody but them can post in the topic, but everyone else can spectate. Sort of like an intellectual gladiator fight.

It'd probably be a disaster, though.

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PostRe: Wesley Snipes Presents: Is tax theft or is all property theft?
by Earfolds » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:25 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:Proposition: We begin a new thread series called "Forumite Lockdown" or something along those lines, where two members with opposing views on a subject are locked into the thread and must come to an agreement on the relevant issue before being allowed to leave. Nobody but them can post in the topic, but everyone else can spectate. Sort of like an intellectual gladiator fight.

It'd probably be a disaster, though.

I'd have called it "Cock Fighting".

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PostRe: Wesley Snipes Presents: Is tax theft or is all property theft?
by Dowbocop » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:50 am

Did anyone ever see those Legal Name billboards a few years ago? Been doing in and out of this thread since Friday but it seems this is similar to the argument here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/magazine-36499750

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PostRe: Wesley Snipes Presents: Is tax theft or is all property theft?
by lex-man » Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:13 am

Dowbocop wrote:Did anyone ever see those Legal Name billboards a few years ago? Been doing in and out of this thread since Friday but it seems this is similar to the argument here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/magazine-36499750


Well that sounds like load of bollocks.


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