What's your degree and what is your job?

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by Corazon de Leon » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:33 pm

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Corazon de Leon wrote:To be fair, humanities courses are the worst for teaching kids how to deal with real life and the working world. All of my classes at undergraduate and masters level could’ve been done in a single day, rather than be spread across the week. I’ve gained more discipline from working in insurance than I ever did during uni.


Aye. I have a friend who's in a similar position to you in that he's been in academia pretty much non-stop for his entire life. The difference with him though, is that since his parents have paid his way through everything he's never done an honest day's work in his life. He has this incredibly deep, specific knowledge of his subject (which he think everyone else is as interested in as he is, and thus won't shut up about it), but has totally uninformed, warped views about everything else in the real world.


I’ve said this before - my head would’ve gone completely up my arse if I’d been funded and in the grad school office every day for the duration of uni and not working alongside non-academic people who’ve kept me honest. I’m totally without academic contacts as a result though. Too crazy for boy’s town, too much of a boy for crazy town.

And I think both Wrathy and Smurphy are based in the same city so it’s entirely possibly they did :slol:

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PostRe: What's your degree and what is your job?
by smurphy » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:37 pm

The ones that came to my store were all girls thankfully, and I'm sure Wrathy is far more competent than any of them were. ( :slol: )

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by Drumstick » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:08 pm

smurphy wrote:The ones that came to my store were all girls thankfully, and I'm sure Wrathy is far more competent than any of them were. ( :slol: )

This is where you find out that Wrathy is a girl.

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PostRe: What's your degree and what is your job?
by Wrathy » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:09 pm

I do not like where this is going... :lol:

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by Drumstick » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:13 pm

Timing. :lol:

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PostRe: What's your degree and what is your job?
by That's not a growth » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:28 pm

:lol: This is hilarious.

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PostRe: What's your degree and what is your job?
by Kezzer » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:31 pm

You both worked in Glasgow yeah?

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PostRe: What's your degree and what is your job?
by Wrathy » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:35 pm

Yeah, I started off in Glasgow for about 7 months and had to move after my first 5 month placement (which was the first thing in a long line of things that annoyed me about the grad scheme. Poor planning and false promises. but anyway).

It was 2015. :shifty:

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PostRe: What's your degree and what is your job?
by rinks » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:26 pm

Neither. I'm still freewheeling off the cousin/pigeon thing.

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PostRe: What's your degree and what is your job?
by smurphy » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:30 pm

Wrathy wrote:Yeah, I started off in Glasgow for about 7 months and had to move after my first 5 month placement (which was the first thing in a long line of things that annoyed me about the grad scheme. Poor planning and false promises. but anyway).

It was 2015. :shifty:


I certainly worked in Glasgow over that year. Let's just leave it there. :slol:

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by That » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:32 pm

:lol:

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by Rapper » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:41 pm

Bsc hons forensic science. I have work in spar worked as a football coach for two professional clubs worked as a sports coach. Also worked for Ibm in tech support until they moved it to India grrrrr as I was getting paid a gooseberry fool load by them. Now I work in a bank

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PostRe: What's your degree and what is your job?
by Wrathy » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:41 pm

:fp: I knew I shouldn't have mentioned it. :slol:

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PostRe: What's your degree and what is your job?
by Outrunner » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:54 pm

No degree. I work as a library assistant. I've been in the job too long and I'm jaded with the public, most of the management and the organisation I work for. I've stuck it this long because I know the job inside and out it's easy money and it's practically on my door step. Also, as bad as most managers have been with my my mental health I'm scared of going someplace else that's worse.

I'm at the stage where I really want to move on but have no idea what I really want to do. I'm considering going to university and getting a degree but I keep wavering between "yeah, this'll be great, I can do this" to "what the hell am I thinking!"

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by Lex-Man » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:30 pm

Corazon de Leon wrote:
lex-man wrote:It's one of those weird things, you go to school get told you need qualifications to succeed in life and then find out later that all the kids who dropped out at 16 are now plumbers and earning 40k a year. When you have three degrees and are struggling to get past 30K.


Not really the case though - the kids in school who dropped out and worked hard at their trade are certainly gonna be earning good money, but the folks who went to uni and did stupid strawberry floating degrees or spent their three or four years at uni out on the piss will then have trouble finding jobs at the end of it.

On the flip side, the kids who dropped out at sixteen and sat scratching their arse will be earning strawberry float all money, while the people who actually worked for their degree or studied a relevant subject will also probably be earning a good wage.

Not me though - I just kept going back and doing further degrees. Now I can’t get any more qualifications I don’t know what the strawberry float to do. :slol:

Edit: Also, to contextualise my original post in the thread, I work in a call centre but only to fund educational stuff; the cost of obtaining the PhD I just got awarded was about £15,000. I also teach uni students across two institutions and am currently applying for research and teaching roles around the country. :D


I'm didn't mean for my comment to be taken so literally, but I wanted to highlight that a lot of people, especially on here, seem to have done pretty well without degrees. When you're young, you kind of get pushed towards the academics while profitable career path like catering, plumbing, etc are largely ignored.

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by Qikz » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:40 pm

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PostRe: What's your degree and what is your job?
by Green Gecko » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:57 am

I sometimes wish I dropped out at 16 as I was doing some very good things with art and computers and music as well, but it would have been a waste of my academic potential and probably just feel the reverse to how I feel now. I also would never have met so many interesting and clever people, plenty of dipshits sure but I made good friends and the best thing of all is my partner who I couldn't live without (and who I ironically would never have met if I didn't repeat my first year at university). I probably would have only basic social and organisational skills.

To be honest I fail to get really anything done unless I 100% want to do it, so providing some sense of structure and goals was helpful. I'm not sure I could have learnt the skills necessarily to work a job alone without the opportunity for prolonged independent study. The arts especially gives you room to learn how to constructively practice and develop something that there is little economical argument to do at all. Skills to run a business come from elsewhere but simply learning how to do something your own way is more difficult without facilties provided and guidance with which to do that. I've always been extremely resourceful but, I would probably have never moved out and got going with my own life until my mid twenties and gone slowly mad living with my family.

I can't imagine that would have been as healthy. Actually at the time I was living with very bad depression and insomnia that was maybe developing into bipolar disorder so, yeah there are non academic benefits to university life. The debt is massive but the money helps to get out there, unless your parents make no contribution and your student finance eligibility is low in which case.. I'd stay home and do open uni or something and get a job to move out.

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PostRe: What's your degree and what is your job?
by Errkal » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 am

Outrunner wrote:No degree. I work as a library assistant. I've been in the job too long and I'm jaded with the public, most of the management and the organisation I work for. I've stuck it this long because I know the job inside and out it's easy money and it's practically on my door step. Also, as bad as most managers have been with my my mental health I'm scared of going someplace else that's worse.

I'm at the stage where I really want to move on but have no idea what I really want to do. I'm considering going to university and getting a degree but I keep wavering between "yeah, this'll be great, I can do this" to "what the hell am I thinking!"

If you are going to do a degree work out what you want to do first, otherwise you will be building debt on a degree for very purpose.

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PostRe: What's your degree and what is your job?
by OrangeRKN » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:58 am

smurphy wrote:I certainly worked in Glasgow over that year. Let's just leave it there. :slol:


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PostRe: What's your degree and what is your job?
by Jenuall » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:12 pm

lex-man wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:
lex-man wrote:It's one of those weird things, you go to school get told you need qualifications to succeed in life and then find out later that all the kids who dropped out at 16 are now plumbers and earning 40k a year. When you have three degrees and are struggling to get past 30K.


Not really the case though - the kids in school who dropped out and worked hard at their trade are certainly gonna be earning good money, but the folks who went to uni and did stupid strawberry floating degrees or spent their three or four years at uni out on the piss will then have trouble finding jobs at the end of it.

On the flip side, the kids who dropped out at sixteen and sat scratching their arse will be earning strawberry float all money, while the people who actually worked for their degree or studied a relevant subject will also probably be earning a good wage.

Not me though - I just kept going back and doing further degrees. Now I can’t get any more qualifications I don’t know what the strawberry float to do. :slol:

Edit: Also, to contextualise my original post in the thread, I work in a call centre but only to fund educational stuff; the cost of obtaining the PhD I just got awarded was about £15,000. I also teach uni students across two institutions and am currently applying for research and teaching roles around the country. :D


I'm didn't mean for my comment to be taken so literally, but I wanted to highlight that a lot of people, especially on here, seem to have done pretty well without degrees. When you're young, you kind of get pushed towards the academics while profitable career path like catering, plumbing, etc are largely ignored.


I definitely agree with the sentiment here - the idea that so many people should go to University is ridiculous and has led to an increase in pointless degrees or certainly degree programmes for things that would certainly work better as part of an apprenticeship or other more "hands-on" learning mechanism. Academia is definitely not the right route for everyone, but similarly I wouldn't want to suppress anyone's desire to want to push themselves on and learn everything they can to be an expert in their field, that is a great thing, I just don't think that it is necessary or the best approach for all vocations.

On the flip side whilst I know several people who work in "trades" - builders, plumbers etc. and they have all done well for themselves (to varying degrees) there are also certain drawbacks to those kinds of jobs that you may not see in the kind of work that graduates from "mainstream" courses tend to go into. A key one which is becoming an increasing topic of conversation with the friends I have who do this kind of work is the physical and demanding nature of it - there is a natural shelf life to being able to work as a builder or plumber, or at least as time goes on you need to become more limited in the kinds of jobs you take one.

One friend who works as a self employed plumber was recently discussing how he simply doesn't think his body can take the level of work any more and how it is as a combination of the work itself and the need to constantly be available - he feels like turning of his phone or saying no to someone is a direct loss of income (which it is effectively) and so he's pushing himself to keep doing the same amount or more each week, month and year. He's only in his 40's and yet is at a point where he either needs to find something else to do for the next 20+ years (not necessarily easy when you've spent the last 20 odd years working at that one activity) or accept that he will need to do less and therefore the second half of his career is going to see a steady decline in his income.


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