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Cheeky Devlin wrote:

IAmTheSaladMan wrote:I have a program that converts the ECM files, UNecm I think it's called.

Yeah I found the ones I needed for PS1 stuff at the time.

Saturn files are in bizarre bin/cue/iso/wav combinations which gives an "Uncollated data at sector 0" error in Retroarch. Found a way to fix them though using a program called CDMage which essentially repackages the bin and cue files together. Seems to work so far.

Ironhide wrote:Unless of course the hardware did something weird with the data, like compiling everything separately then reassembled it on the fly - which knowing how crazy SEGA were at the time is probably fairly close to the truth.

Trelliz wrote:

Ironhide wrote:Unless of course the hardware did something weird with the data, like compiling everything separately then reassembled it on the fly - which knowing how crazy SEGA were at the time is probably fairly close to the truth.

Here's some footage from SEGA's Saturn technology department at the time:

Rax wrote:Interesting, I have 2 pads from them and neither has a loose dpad. A bad dpad would be gooseberry fool, it was one of the reasons I got their controller in the first places instead of using a 360 pad.

Johnny Ryall wrote:

Rax wrote:Interesting, I have 2 pads from them and neither has a loose dpad. A bad dpad would be gooseberry fool, it was one of the reasons I got their controller in the first places instead of using a 360 pad.

I'm being VERY nitpicky, but it's the sort of thing that can sometimes register diagonals instead of straight directions.

Original 8bitdo FC30 impressions wrote:- The dpad's proving terribly inaccurate for Street Fighter, with unintended directions frequently registering. Just moving between left and right causes many jumps and crouches.

- I've had a bugger of a time trying to connect it to the Switch, often getting no dice on the sync screen and sometimes not linking up even after I've gone through that process. Especially maddening when going between using it on PC and then on Switch.

- The USB lead it came with would only charge the pad and nothing more, I had to use my mobile's charge cable to update the firmware or play games with it on PC.

- I'm not keen on the face buttons, they're not particularly easy on the thumb and require more force compared to the pro controller or joycons.

- Perhaps most alarming of all, today my Switch starting locking with an error message when I'd turn the pad on to connect it

Until I desynced and resynced the controller, I was getting this error every time I'd try to hook up the FC30. As of now the controller's linked up fine, but it wouldn't surprise me if this came up again in the future or I'd have trouble connecting it again.

Ironhide wrote:

Cheeky Devlin wrote:

IAmTheSaladMan wrote:I have a program that converts the ECM files, UNecm I think it's called.

Yeah I found the ones I needed for PS1 stuff at the time.

Saturn files are in bizarre bin/cue/iso/wav combinations which gives an "Uncollated data at sector 0" error in Retroarch. Found a way to fix them though using a program called CDMage which essentially repackages the bin and cue files together. Seems to work so far.

What madness is this?

Considering Saturn games were on standard CD-ROMs I always assumed they'd be ripped as an iso file.

Unless of course the hardware did something weird with the data, like compiling everything separately then reassembled it on the fly - which knowing how crazy SEGA were at the time is probably fairly close to the truth.

Jazzem wrote:

Johnny Ryall wrote:

Rax wrote:Interesting, I have 2 pads from them and neither has a loose dpad. A bad dpad would be gooseberry fool, it was one of the reasons I got their controller in the first places instead of using a 360 pad.

I'm being VERY nitpicky, but it's the sort of thing that can sometimes register diagonals instead of straight directions.

Yeah I had a pretty rotten experience with an 8bitdo pad, namely due to sync issues and indeed a terrible dpad. My original impressions at the time:

Original 8bitdo FC30 impressions wrote:- The dpad's proving terribly inaccurate for Street Fighter, with unintended directions frequently registering. Just moving between left and right causes many jumps and crouches.

- I've had a bugger of a time trying to connect it to the Switch, often getting no dice on the sync screen and sometimes not linking up even after I've gone through that process. Especially maddening when going between using it on PC and then on Switch.

- The USB lead it came with would only charge the pad and nothing more, I had to use my mobile's charge cable to update the firmware or play games with it on PC.

- I'm not keen on the face buttons, they're not particularly easy on the thumb and require more force compared to the pro controller or joycons.

- Perhaps most alarming of all, today my Switch starting locking with an error message when I'd turn the pad on to connect it

Until I desynced and resynced the controller, I was getting this error every time I'd try to hook up the FC30. As of now the controller's linked up fine, but it wouldn't surprise me if this came up again in the future or I'd have trouble connecting it again.

Have heard other positive impressions like Rax's though so maybe it's a mix of mileage and/or build quality varying.

Johnny Ryall wrote:I assume the reason they are doing these PCBs it that they can't get their own plastic molds up to the same par.

If I couldn't sync my SNES classic controller with my PC over a wiimote I'd probably try one of those PCBs but I'm not going to bother.

Johnny Ryall wrote:I really am gonna miss emuparadise, tried grabbing metroid prime trilogy from one site and the download started a .exe file YIKES! Found another and it's gonna take 6 hours.

Maybe I should just get the Wii U download version but like hell am I hooking that thing up again. This is about convenience not money. Put it out on switch.

Johnny Ryall wrote:Ah man don't change your schedule on my behalf! It was more of a comment on the state of things as they are now.

Johnny Ryall wrote:Aw well thanks dude.

I should have grabbed it earlier but I didn't anticipate this blitz on sites.

The thing is if Nintendo pledged to have their full back catalogue for sale with a guarantee that buying a license means you get to play that game on any future console I'd waste LOADS of money. But they don't think that way. Oddly Microsoft are the only ones to get that right and even then it's only because they had to stand out. It sucks.

Johnny Ryall wrote:Nope but googling says it's no longer a thing.