Will Esports ever be more popular than football?

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Will Esports be more popular than football?

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PostRe: Will Esports ever be more popular than football?
by Curls » Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:30 pm

I think the world would have to stop sticking their noses up at sex work before Escorts are more popular than football.

I mean a lot of guys go out with their mates on the weekend to watch the football, but not many(well at least not openly)will head out with an escort for a Saturday afternoon out.

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by Gemini73 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:34 pm

No, certainly not in the UK and Europe.

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PostRe: Will Esports ever be more popular than football?
by Dual » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:05 am

OrangeRakoon wrote:"The teams have to kick that ball into the other team's goal. Whoever does that the most wins."

This here is the reason most real world sports will always be more popular than most e-sports. Trying to get into watching dota is worse than trying to get into watching cricket.


I think this is the real reason. Football is so simple and a real social leveller. Wherever that's Dave's Sunday Pub League or a World Cup it's the same game.

Constantly updated software, new technology, new games and all that would presumably mean the spectator also has to keep up with the changes. Leaving esports as a niche market.

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PostRe: Will Esports ever be more popular than football?
by NickSCFC » Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:14 am

No, but I see it overtaking the likes of darts, just think, no more pissed up morons changing along to Chelsea Dagger every 5 minutes on TV.

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PostRe: Will Esports ever be more popular than football?
by Tomous » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:35 am

Curls wrote:I think the world would have to stop sticking their noses up at sex work before Escorts are more popular than football.

I mean a lot of guys go out with their mates on the weekend to watch the football, but not many(well at least not openly)will head out with an escort for a Saturday afternoon out.


Very good :lol:

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by Tafdolphin » Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:02 pm

I detest eSports. It's everything I hate about games (macho competitiveness, a doubling-down on Nerd Culture) and everything I hate about sports (sports).

I had a housemate who used to watch LoL leagues and I asked him to walk me through a match. He did, and I came away disliking it more than I did beforehand.

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:23 pm

There is something particularly insufferable about anyone involved in eSports. I can't really put my finger on it, they just seem to be so horrendously annoying.

Edit - that sounds really mean. I guess it is :slol:.

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PostRe: Will Esports ever be more popular than football?
by Dig Dug » Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:29 pm

Esports can never grow to be as big as real sports as long as they are designed the way they are. Football as we know it now has existed for close to 150 years, it’s been steadily growing over time with modern football now being this global juggernaut.
Esports will never have that, it will never have a game that progresses over a long period of time and will endure for years. Everything either fizzes out or is eventually replaced. Games are a market product after all.

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PostRe: Will Esports ever be more popular than football?
by Qikz » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:08 pm

Dig Dug wrote:Esports can never grow to be as big as real sports as long as they are designed the way they are. Football as we know it now has existed for close to 150 years, it’s been steadily growing over time with modern football now being this global juggernaut.
Esports will never have that, it will never have a game that progresses over a long period of time and will endure for years. Everything either fizzes out or is eventually replaced. Games are a market product after all.


It already has. StarCraft Broodwar has been an eSport for 20 years now and it's not going anywhere soon. The game is still constantly evolving.

I genuinely think within about 3-4 generations eSports will be bigger than traditional sports.

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by Dig Dug » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:31 pm

Broodwar has had a resurgence but there no guarantees it can keep goijng strong or even hit the heights of the old days. If we think of Blizzard games as one big thing instead of classing each blizzard game as an esport then I supposed there’s potential there as anything new they make these days becomes an instant hit.

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PostRe: Will Esports ever be more popular than football?
by KK » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:37 pm

I initially read this as escorts.

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by OrangeRakoon » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:56 pm

There is also the fact that sports are open for anyone to play, whereas e-sports are centralised/controlled by the developer. Football has a governing body but anyone can manufacture a ball and anyone can go to a field to play it. You don't have to buy into (or in the case of F2P, still go through) a single implementation of the game.

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by Corazon de Leon » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:00 pm

OrangeRakoon wrote:There is also the fact that sports are open for anyone to play, whereas e-sports are centralised/controlled by the developer. Football has a governing body but anyone can manufacture a ball and anyone can go to a field to play it. You don't have to buy into (or in the case of F2P, still go through) a single implementation of the game.


This pretty much. The reason football has become so popular, as others have said, is because of the inclusive nature of the sport - literally anyone can do it. I don’t think there’s a gaming equivalent, and I’m not sure how there could ever be one either.

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by OrangeRakoon » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:09 pm

I think I've said it before, but I think a way forward is for there to be a governing body that defines the game rules, and then that gets licensed out to multiple developers. I can imagine "first person shooter" existing as an e-sport, which various developers create their own take on and skin how they like, but the individual games must all get approved by the governing body to show that they conform to the basic rules and gameplay. Then you introduce competition within the e-sport for who can create the best version of it, and it is no longer a completely closed system (although it is somewhat still through the governing body).

Another problem I see with e-sports is that a lot of them are hard to watch as a spectator, because each player is acting somewhat individually. Popular team sports almost all have a single ball because it acts as the point of focus for spectators. Knowing which camera to cut to in football is easy because you're always following the ball. In games like overwatch you don't have this central point of focus and it make spectating a worse experience.

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by Trelliz » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:19 pm

Not until we can go one week without some esports guy getting suspended/kicked out for being racist/pedo.

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PostRe: Will Esports ever be more popular than football?
by Pedz » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:21 pm

Celebs are involved in esports?

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PostRe: Will Esports ever be more popular than football?
by Bleachyleachy » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:33 am

I personally was very into the eSports scene a few years ago - that is to say I love Street Fighter 4 and watched tournaments regularly right up until the last Ultra Street Fighter 4 EVO games. Then when Street Fighter 5 came out sadly I lost interest. Game just isn't the same

I have never been into any other games at a competitive level however. Popular first person shooters (Counter Strike, Overwatch etc) just don't make good spectator games in my opinion, as the camera is constantly chaning between players which can be extremely disorientating and confusing. Similar problems with MOBA's and RTS games. This isn't an issue in fighting games - both characters are on screen together and the only camera changes are zooming in or and panning

Fighting games are also fairly easy to understand at a basic level - two characters punch it out until one runs out of health. Even if they're complicated to play owing to complex combos, difficult execution and often dozens of characters with unique movesets, even after watching one game the uninitiated will probably be able to explain the win state/fail state. I'll be damned if I can explain how a MOBA works after watching one game

All this said, while I doubt that eSports will become more popular than football anytime soon I wouldn't underestimate their appeal. The big names like League seem only to grow year after year, and literal stadiums have been filled by spectators coming to watch finals. (Something that's happened for quite a while in Korea with Starcraft tournaments) So who knows - maybe more popular than darts/snooker some day?

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PostRe: Will Esports ever be more popular than football?
by Dual » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:41 am

Corazon de Leon wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote:There is also the fact that sports are open for anyone to play, whereas e-sports are centralised/controlled by the developer. Football has a governing body but anyone can manufacture a ball and anyone can go to a field to play it. You don't have to buy into (or in the case of F2P, still go through) a single implementation of the game.


This pretty much. The reason football has become so popular, as others have said, is because of the inclusive nature of the sport - literally anyone can do it. I don’t think there’s a gaming equivalent, and I’m not sure how there could ever be one either.


Thinking more about this, consider how football can reach out to third world countries. A kid from the Favelas in Rio can become a superstar. I don't think video games are as inclusive.

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by Cheeky Devlin » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:51 am

I don't see them ever becoming bigger than Football (Not for a very, very long time anyway) but definitely see them surpassing smaller sports. Darts, Snooker etc I would imagine will shortly (if not already) be surpassed by them in terms of worldwide viewers.

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by NickSCFC » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:01 am

Cheeky Devlin wrote:I don't see them ever becoming bigger than Football (Not for a very, very long time anyway) but definitely see them surpassing smaller sports. Darts, Snooker etc I would imagine will shortly (if not already) be surpassed by them in terms of worldwide viewers.


Do young people have an interest in darts? Always seems to be something older people enjoy watching and seems to be linked with the demise of the local pub.

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