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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Rex Kramer » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:31 pm

<]:^D wrote:the state of Spain :lol: :lol:

Well somebody had to step up and be Holland this time.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Moggy » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:34 pm

Rex Kramer wrote:
<]:^D wrote:the state of Spain :lol: :lol:

Well somebody had to step up and be Holland this time.


:lol:

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by <]:^D » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:40 pm

its a real shame and it sounds like Lopetegui is completely to blame; its unprofessional, lacking in class, and disrespectful to be negotiating your next job on the eve of the biggest part of your current role. i dont know if Real pushed him but hes come out of this looking terrible.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Tomous » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:53 pm

Parksey wrote:A bit annoying that the USA are getting a second world cup so soon. For all FIFA say they want to take the world cup to new places, they opted against Morocco for some reason. Might be because it was promosing double the £4bn profit the African bid cited. America will have had two in my lifetime now.

It'll be Mexico's third since 1970 too, albeit they got one when Colombia pulled out.

I'm a little bitter as it just seems to unfairly pass England by. We've had one Euros and one WC. In contrast, since we've held the WC, France have had three Euros and one WC. The last one, Platini basically admitted was rigged to give it to France while he was UEFA President.

There are noises that an England bid would be welcomed for 2030. But no doubt there'll be a bid that lines FIFA's pockets a little bit more.


To be fair, I think the Morocco bid had a lot of bid attached to it. They needed a lot of investment in stadium and infrastructure and I'm not sure it would have been good for the country to host it. Would have been a risk all round.

England have a right to be bitter. The bid really should have won in 2018 and probably would have on a fair playing field without corruption.

A 2030 bid will have to go up against Uruguay who are going to bid with Argentina and have the advantage of it being the 100 year anniversary of the first.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Tomous » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:55 pm

Lotus wrote:Spain :slol:

As for 2026, bit odd having 3 countries - do they all automatically qualify? Would've been nice if it'd just been one country, or maybe a joint US-Mexico or US-Canada. 3x the bribes though, so every cloud...


Yes but it's a 48 team World Cup in 2026 so....

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Moggy » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:57 pm

Tomous wrote:
Parksey wrote:A bit annoying that the USA are getting a second world cup so soon. For all FIFA say they want to take the world cup to new places, they opted against Morocco for some reason. Might be because it was promosing double the £4bn profit the African bid cited. America will have had two in my lifetime now.

It'll be Mexico's third since 1970 too, albeit they got one when Colombia pulled out.

I'm a little bitter as it just seems to unfairly pass England by. We've had one Euros and one WC. In contrast, since we've held the WC, France have had three Euros and one WC. The last one, Platini basically admitted was rigged to give it to France while he was UEFA President.

There are noises that an England bid would be welcomed for 2030. But no doubt there'll be a bid that lines FIFA's pockets a little bit more.


To be fair, I think the Morocco bid had a lot of bid attached to it. They needed a lot of investment in stadium and infrastructure and I'm not sure it would have been good for the country to host it. Would have been a risk all round.

England have a right to be bitter. The bid really should have won in 2018 and probably would have on a fair playing field without corruption.

A 2030 bid will have to go up against Uruguay who are going to bid with Argentina and have the advantage of it being the 100 year anniversary of the first.


England should have bid for 2026, I think they’d have had a good chance against USEXADA and Morocco.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Tomous » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:00 pm

Moggy wrote:
Tomous wrote:
Parksey wrote:A bit annoying that the USA are getting a second world cup so soon. For all FIFA say they want to take the world cup to new places, they opted against Morocco for some reason. Might be because it was promosing double the £4bn profit the African bid cited. America will have had two in my lifetime now.

It'll be Mexico's third since 1970 too, albeit they got one when Colombia pulled out.

I'm a little bitter as it just seems to unfairly pass England by. We've had one Euros and one WC. In contrast, since we've held the WC, France have had three Euros and one WC. The last one, Platini basically admitted was rigged to give it to France while he was UEFA President.

There are noises that an England bid would be welcomed for 2030. But no doubt there'll be a bid that lines FIFA's pockets a little bit more.


To be fair, I think the Morocco bid had a lot of bid attached to it. They needed a lot of investment in stadium and infrastructure and I'm not sure it would have been good for the country to host it. Would have been a risk all round.

England have a right to be bitter. The bid really should have won in 2018 and probably would have on a fair playing field without corruption.

A 2030 bid will have to go up against Uruguay who are going to bid with Argentina and have the advantage of it being the 100 year anniversary of the first.


England should have bid for 2026, I think they’d have had a good chance against USEXADA and Morocco.


I think European bids were banned due to it being in Russia in 2018. Can't go to the same confederation within 2 World Cups-hence why Asia are banned from bidding in 2030 due to Qatar in 2022.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Moggy » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:04 pm

Tomous wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Tomous wrote:
Parksey wrote:A bit annoying that the USA are getting a second world cup so soon. For all FIFA say they want to take the world cup to new places, they opted against Morocco for some reason. Might be because it was promosing double the £4bn profit the African bid cited. America will have had two in my lifetime now.

It'll be Mexico's third since 1970 too, albeit they got one when Colombia pulled out.

I'm a little bitter as it just seems to unfairly pass England by. We've had one Euros and one WC. In contrast, since we've held the WC, France have had three Euros and one WC. The last one, Platini basically admitted was rigged to give it to France while he was UEFA President.

There are noises that an England bid would be welcomed for 2030. But no doubt there'll be a bid that lines FIFA's pockets a little bit more.


To be fair, I think the Morocco bid had a lot of bid attached to it. They needed a lot of investment in stadium and infrastructure and I'm not sure it would have been good for the country to host it. Would have been a risk all round.

England have a right to be bitter. The bid really should have won in 2018 and probably would have on a fair playing field without corruption.

A 2030 bid will have to go up against Uruguay who are going to bid with Argentina and have the advantage of it being the 100 year anniversary of the first.


England should have bid for 2026, I think they’d have had a good chance against USEXADA and Morocco.


I think European bids were banned due to it being in Russia in 2018. Can't go to the same confederation within 2 World Cups-hence why Asia are banned from bidding in 2030 due to Qatar in 2022.


Ahh ok, that makes sense.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Lotus » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:11 pm

Tomous wrote:
Lotus wrote:Spain :slol:

As for 2026, bit odd having 3 countries - do they all automatically qualify? Would've been nice if it'd just been one country, or maybe a joint US-Mexico or US-Canada. 3x the bribes though, so every cloud...


Yes but it's a 48 team World Cup in 2026 so....

:dread:

I read the other day that 2022 could be 48 teams as well, which would mean Qatar having to co-host with other Middle Eastern countries. Such a clusterfuck. :fp:

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Tomous » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:13 pm

Lotus wrote:
Tomous wrote:
Lotus wrote:Spain :slol:

As for 2026, bit odd having 3 countries - do they all automatically qualify? Would've been nice if it'd just been one country, or maybe a joint US-Mexico or US-Canada. 3x the bribes though, so every cloud...


Yes but it's a 48 team World Cup in 2026 so....

:dread:

I read the other day that 2022 could be 48 teams as well, which would mean Qatar having to co-host with other Middle Eastern countries. Such a clusterfuck. :fp:


I believe they've voted against that

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Vermilion » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:42 pm

Qatar should never have been awarded it in the first place, though it should still be an interesting setting nethertheless.

Should mean the Panini sticker album will be sandy coloured with pictures of camels.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by more heat than light » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:48 pm

PatSharpsMullet wrote:
Moggy wrote:I just had another go on the work sweepstake.

Peru.

:fp:

Peru haven't lost a game since losing to Brazil to November 2016.

Believe.


I've got a fiver on Peru at 200/1. You picked a winner.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Moggy » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:56 pm

more heat than light wrote:
PatSharpsMullet wrote:
Moggy wrote:I just had another go on the work sweepstake.

Peru.

:fp:

Peru haven't lost a game since losing to Brazil to November 2016.

Believe.


I've got a fiver on Peru at 200/1. You picked a winner.


Paddington will not let us down mate. :toot:

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Lotus » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:28 pm

Tomous wrote:
Lotus wrote:
Tomous wrote:
Lotus wrote:Spain :slol:

As for 2026, bit odd having 3 countries - do they all automatically qualify? Would've been nice if it'd just been one country, or maybe a joint US-Mexico or US-Canada. 3x the bribes though, so every cloud...


Yes but it's a 48 team World Cup in 2026 so....

:dread:

I read the other day that 2022 could be 48 teams as well, which would mean Qatar having to co-host with other Middle Eastern countries. Such a clusterfuck. :fp:


I believe they've voted against that

Oh, that was quick. :lol:

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Lotus » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:04 pm

Just reading about 2026 and it sounds pretty shitty. The groups of 3 teams still sounds terrible, but 75% of the matches will be hosted in the US, and Mexico and Canada don't get any games after the round of 16 (and even that is only 1 game each). The US was always going to host more but I didn't think it'd be that skewed.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Tomous » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:35 pm

Lotus wrote:Just reading about 2026 and it sounds pretty shitty. The groups of 3 teams still sounds terrible, but 75% of the matches will be hosted in the US, and Mexico and Canada don't get any games after the round of 16 (and even that is only 1 game each). The US was always going to host more but I didn't think it'd be that skewed.


USA were unsuccessful in 2022, so it was their way of strengthening their bid for 2026. Probably wasn’t needed to be fair, USA alone would have most likely beaten Morocco.

48 team format is nonsense and purely designed to make more money by selling the TV rights for higher value, as countries with teams attending will pay more.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018
by Parksey » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:36 am

Was just listening to Three Lions on the way to work. Ergo I now believe we are going to win the whole thing.

Depressingly though, we won't have another summer World Cup for eight years after this.

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by Preezy » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:53 am

The World Cup is here! :toot: :toot: :toot:

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - RUS v KSA 4pm ITV
by Dual » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:14 am

We're going to win it. Believe.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - RUS v KSA 4pm ITV
by Vermilion » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:35 am

Dual wrote:We're going to win it. Believe.


https://youtu.be/ZIJ92NbW82M?t=6s


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