World Cup 2018

-----------Vardy-------Kane-------Sterling----------
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-------------------Alli--------------Lingard---------------
Young-------------------------------------------Walker
------Maguire--------Stones---------Dier-----------
--------------------------Pickford-------------------------

Drumstick wrote:Southgate does not and should not play Henderson as he's going to play with 5 defenders (3 CBs and two FBs/WBs.

This is my starting XI based on the squad selected and GS's likely starting formation.

-----------Vardy-------Kane-------Sterling----------
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-------------------Alli--------------Lingard---------------
Young-------------------------------------------Walker
------Maguire--------Stones---------Dier-----------
--------------------------Pickford-------------------------

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Drumstick wrote:Southgate does not and should not play Henderson as he's going to play with 5 defenders (3 CBs and two FBs/WBs.

This is my starting XI based on the squad selected and GS's likely starting formation.

-----------Vardy-------Kane-------Sterling----------
-----------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------Alli--------------Lingard---------------
Young-------------------------------------------Walker
------Maguire--------Stones---------Dier-----------
--------------------------Pickford-------------------------

There’s no way Alli and lingard will play in CM together, the best we can hope for is one of them alongside Henderson. I have a feeling Dier will be used in a back three though like you’ve put.

The problem is both Alli and Lingard are more suited to playing in a front three in this type of formation. Alli though normally plays in a completely different formation 4231 where he plays as part of a three behind a striker so there isn’t really a place in this formation that best suits him.

Drumstick wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Drumstick wrote:Southgate does not and should not play Henderson as he's going to play with 5 defenders (3 CBs and two FBs/WBs.

This is my starting XI based on the squad selected and GS's likely starting formation.

-----------Vardy-------Kane-------Sterling----------
-----------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------Alli--------------Lingard---------------
Young-------------------------------------------Walker
------Maguire--------Stones---------Dier-----------
--------------------------Pickford-------------------------

There’s no way Alli and lingard will play in CM together, the best we can hope for is one of them alongside Henderson. I have a feeling Dier will be used in a back three though like you’ve put.

The problem is both Alli and Lingard are more suited to playing in a front three in this type of formation. Alli though normally plays in a completely different formation 4231 where he plays as part of a three behind a striker so there isn’t really a place in this formation that best suits him.

I didn't say it was likely, I said it's what my personal starting XI would be. Henderson should absolutely not be anywhere near the starting XI if we are playing this formation. You do not need a DM when playing 3 CBs, hence why I went for two midfielders that like to attack.

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Drumstick wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Drumstick wrote:Southgate does not and should not play Henderson as he's going to play with 5 defenders (3 CBs and two FBs/WBs.

This is my starting XI based on the squad selected and GS's likely starting formation.

-----------Vardy-------Kane-------Sterling----------
-----------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------Alli--------------Lingard---------------
Young-------------------------------------------Walker
------Maguire--------Stones---------Dier-----------
--------------------------Pickford-------------------------

There’s no way Alli and lingard will play in CM together, the best we can hope for is one of them alongside Henderson. I have a feeling Dier will be used in a back three though like you’ve put.

The problem is both Alli and Lingard are more suited to playing in a front three in this type of formation. Alli though normally plays in a completely different formation 4231 where he plays as part of a three behind a striker so there isn’t really a place in this formation that best suits him.

I didn't say it was likely, I said it's what my personal starting XI would be. Henderson should absolutely not be anywhere near the starting XI if we are playing this formation. You do not need a DM when playing 3 CBs, hence why I went for two midfielders that like to attack.

Oh I know that, I was just having a conversation. I agree with you that we don’t need a defensive midfielder with a back three but I meant the chances are that Southgate will pick him.

I wonder though if he may go for 352 rather than 343. Personally I don’t know what I would pick as so many of our players now play regular football at clubs that play very different formations. Gone are the days when they all pretty much played 442 and they could just play the same position that they played for their clubs.

Drumstick wrote:So with a goalkeeper, two wingbacks and three centre backs charged with defending, you believe additional defensive personnel are required?

Blue Eyes wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Drumstick wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Drumstick wrote:Southgate does not and should not play Henderson as he's going to play with 5 defenders (3 CBs and two FBs/WBs.

This is my starting XI based on the squad selected and GS's likely starting formation.

-----------Vardy-------Kane-------Sterling----------
-----------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------Alli--------------Lingard---------------
Young-------------------------------------------Walker
------Maguire--------Stones---------Dier-----------
--------------------------Pickford-------------------------

There’s no way Alli and lingard will play in CM together, the best we can hope for is one of them alongside Henderson. I have a feeling Dier will be used in a back three though like you’ve put.

The problem is both Alli and Lingard are more suited to playing in a front three in this type of formation. Alli though normally plays in a completely different formation 4231 where he plays as part of a three behind a striker so there isn’t really a place in this formation that best suits him.

I didn't say it was likely, I said it's what my personal starting XI would be. Henderson should absolutely not be anywhere near the starting XI if we are playing this formation. You do not need a DM when playing 3 CBs, hence why I went for two midfielders that like to attack.

Oh I know that, I was just having a conversation. I agree with you that we don’t need a defensive midfielder with a back three but I meant the chances are that Southgate will pick him.

I wonder though if he may go for 352 rather than 343. Personally I don’t know what I would pick as so many of our players now play regular football at clubs that play very different formations. Gone are the days when they all pretty much played 442 and they could just play the same position that they played for their clubs.

Not sure I buy this idea that playing 3-4-3 means you don’t need a defensive screen in midfield. Chelsea won the league with that formation and they had Kante doing that job for them. We probably shouldn’t need one against Panama and Tunisia but against someone proper it’ll be essential.

Drumstick wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Drumstick wrote:Southgate does not and should not play Henderson as he's going to play with 5 defenders (3 CBs and two FBs/WBs.

This is my starting XI based on the squad selected and GS's likely starting formation.

-----------Vardy-------Kane-------Sterling----------
-----------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------Alli--------------Lingard---------------
Young-------------------------------------------Walker
------Maguire--------Stones---------Dier-----------
--------------------------Pickford-------------------------

There’s no way Alli and lingard will play in CM together, the best we can hope for is one of them alongside Henderson. I have a feeling Dier will be used in a back three though like you’ve put.

The problem is both Alli and Lingard are more suited to playing in a front three in this type of formation. Alli though normally plays in a completely different formation 4231 where he plays as part of a three behind a striker so there isn’t really a place in this formation that best suits him.

I didn't say it was likely, I said it's what my personal starting XI would be. Henderson should absolutely not be anywhere near the starting XI if we are playing this formation. You do not need a DM when playing 3 CBs, hence why I went for two midfielders that like to attack.

Drumstick wrote:Southgate does not and should not play Henderson as he's going to play with 5 defenders (3 CBs and two FBs/WBs.

This is my starting XI based on the squad selected and GS's likely starting formation.

-----------Vardy-------Kane-------Sterling----------
-----------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------Alli--------------Lingard---------------
Young-------------------------------------------Walker
------Maguire--------Stones---------Dier-----------
--------------------------Pickford-------------------------

The narrative from The Sun’s Neil Ashton is clear: This is a young squad.

Look, there’s a headline saying ‘CHILDREN OF THE REVOLUTION’ underneath another that says ‘SOUTHGATE’S YOUTH OPPORTUNITY SCHEME’.

Have you got the gist yet, or do you need the sub-headline calling them ‘young ones’?

Then Ashton’s piece begins:

‘THE youth of today are ready to create a a bit of a stir.

‘Gareth Southgate, picking his final 23 for the World Cup in Russia. is relying on a group of players with an average age of just 26.

‘It is a bold and brave call for England’s head coach.’

Pesky fact: Roy Hodgson’s England squad was the youngest at Euro 2016 with an average age of 25.8. Was he ‘bold and brave’ too?

Oh and his 2014 World Cup squad had an average age of 26 too. We can’t remember him being described as ‘bold and brave’.

Ashton continues…

‘Trent Alexander-Arnold (19) and Ruben Loftus-Cheek (22), plus the established figure of Marcus Rashford (20) will be wearing England shirts on the world stage this summer.

‘Southgate trusts them.’

We are pretty sure Hodgson trusted Jack Wilshere (22), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (20), Phil Jones (22), Raheem Sterling (19), Ross Barkley (20) and Luke Shaw (18) in 2014 too. And that’s a list that is literally twice as long.

Still, what a breath of fresh air from the ‘bold and brave’ Southgate.

Preezy wrote:Oh ok, sorry.

Watching this makes me wish we hadn’t bothered to qualify