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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Tomous » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:22 pm

Spindash wrote:Rankings mean nothing. Poland and Switzerland are ranked above England. Tunisia are one place below Croatia.


Indeed. Poland basically played the system with friendlies to improve their ranking and get into the top seed pot.

They’ve had to revise the system because of it.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Somebody Else's Problem » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:22 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
Qikz wrote:tottenham are gooseberry fool


You raise a good point, if this was the fa cup people would be laughing at spurs saying they bottled it again, so have England just bottled it?


Ah, but going into this tournament the expectations were more like Sunderland than Spurs.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Tomous » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:24 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
Qikz wrote:tottenham are gooseberry fool


You raise a good point, if this was the fa cup people would be laughing at spurs saying they bottled it again, so have England just bottled it?

Is anyone bothered by the 3rd place playoff? What the hell is the point in it?



I mean it was a Spurs player who bottled the chance to double England’s lead...


Plus Spurs helped turn Modric into the greatest centre midfielder in the world.

It’s basically all Spurs fault.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Return_of_the_STAR » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:25 pm

We also have the UEFA nations league to look forward to. Our group only features Spain and a small team called Croatia. We will be fine.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Return_of_the_STAR » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:26 pm

Tomous wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
Qikz wrote:tottenham are gooseberry fool


You raise a good point, if this was the fa cup people would be laughing at spurs saying they bottled it again, so have England just bottled it?

Is anyone bothered by the 3rd place playoff? What the hell is the point in it?



I mean it was a Spurs player who bottled the chance to double England’s lead...


Plus Spurs helped turn Modric into the greatest centre midfielder in the world.

It’s basically all Spurs fault.


I do not deny this theory.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Return_of_the_STAR » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:27 pm

Let’s start building for this

https://www.uefa.com/community/news/newsid=2079553.html

This time next year we could be the inaugural UEFA nations league champions.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Roonmastor » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:30 pm

I still remember 97. Good year for England

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Tournoi_de_France

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Photek » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:38 pm

Spindash wrote:Colombia and Sweden were good teams until England beat them.

They really weren’t both limped into the last 16 and Quarters.

I predicted every England result right, should have put bets on.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Mafro » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:40 pm

Kanbei wrote:

Thank god for Croatia, could hardly put up with all the nonsense for a day more :lol: First decent team England come up against all tournament and they lose.

Second decent team (Belgium beat them). Not surprised at all.

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by Dig Dug » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:43 pm

https://www.facebook.com/Slavorum/video ... 063060558/
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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Blue Eyes » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:49 pm

This was all just a build-up for 2020. Final Wembley. It’s in the bag.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by PES Fan » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:22 am

Photek wrote:
Spindash wrote:Colombia and Sweden were good teams until England beat them.

They really wheren’t both limped into the last 16 and Quarters.

I predicted every England result right, should have put bets on.


Limped? How?

They both got 6 points in their group in a 3 game group, which were both tough groups. Colombia could have got 9 points if they didn’t get a sending off 4 mins into their first game.

Sweden should have beaten Germany. They beat a Swiss team that Brazil couldn’t beat. They beat France and knocked out Italy during qualifying.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Parksey » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:37 am

PES Fan wrote:
Photek wrote:
Spindash wrote:Colombia and Sweden were good teams until England beat them.

They really wheren’t both limped into the last 16 and Quarters.

I predicted every England result right, should have put bets on.


Limped? How?

They both got 6 points in their group in a 3 game group, which were both tough groups. Colombia could have got 9 points if they didn’t get a sending off 4 mins into their first game.

Sweden should have beaten Germany. They beat a Swiss team that Brazil couldn’t beat. They beat France and knocked out Italy during qualifying.


This is what I don't understand. First Photek says how poor Colombia and Sweden are, whilst simultaneously hinting he's some kind of oracle for predicting England would beat them.

It's a matter of perception. No matter how poor and underwhelming the likes of Spain and Germany are (let's face it, Germany were fortunate they still had a chance going in to that last game), it's somehow more of an achievement to beat a big team playing abysmally than it is to beat a "lesser" team who has been playing well and getting results are a tournament.

We weren't given a bye. We were on the side of the draw of Spain and Germany (and the FIFA rankings meant Poland and Switzerland were there too). Those teams didn't perform and were sent packing. They didn't play well enough to act get to the point where they could face England.

None of the sides we played in the knockouts didn't deserve to be there, with a "bigger" side replacing them.

Yes, the disappointing thing is that such a draw might not happen for a while. And big teams might not disappoint again, but why not focus on that aspect? It becomes "oh England have played crap teams" instead of "Spain and Germany were so bad they didn't even get to the knockouts". You can't use the standard of the opposition to knock England, when we had absolutely no say in who that opposition were.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by DML » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:48 am

Kanbei wrote:

Thank god for Croatia, could hardly put up with all the nonsense for a day more :lol: First decent team England come up against all tournament and they lose.


First semi final since 1990, kindly get strawberry floated you gloating wanker.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Alvin Flummux » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:55 am

There's been a lot of talk about this England team being very young, inexperienced. Does that mean it'll be much the same team in 4 years time, but more mature and better able to handle decent opponents?

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Knoyleo » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:47 am

DML wrote:
Kanbei wrote:

Thank god for Croatia, could hardly put up with all the nonsense for a day more :lol: First decent team England come up against all tournament and they lose.


First semi final since 1990, kindly get strawberry floated you gloating wanker.

So angry. :lol:

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Squinty » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:17 am

Kanbei wrote:


:lol:

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Corazon de Leon » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:22 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:There's been a lot of talk about this England team being very young, inexperienced. Does that mean it'll be much the same team in 4 years time, but more mature and better able to handle decent opponents?


You’d certainly hope so - the average age of the squad was one of the youngest at the tournament(I think it was 26) and a lot of the players who started should only get stronger in the next four years.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Parksey » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:35 am

DML, don't you gloat when Southampton lose or failure?

That's what I am always getting at. People have predictably came in and started posting GIFs and doing the usual gloating. Probably had them stockpiled for a few weeks waiting for the chance to use them and feel good about themselves.

As I have said to you before DML, I watch sport to see my own team win, not to see another team lose. If you're winning you don't care what other sides are doing. Maybe it feels different to others, but unless a team is directly competing with your own, or impeding your team's progress in someway, there's no meaningful victory in celebrating someone else getting beat. Sport's about winning not about somebody else losing.

Still, it's exactly what DML does with Southampton so it seems a little hypocritical of him to moan when Scotland/Ireland/Wales fans do it to England.

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PostRe: World Cup 2018 - CRO-ENG
by Corazon de Leon » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:38 am

I wouldn’t underestimate the ultimate joy of schadenfreude. Not just in football, but in life. Those of us who are not happy love to see the misery spread. :slol:

As an aside, I felt my nationality flip from English to Scottish the second Mandzukic’s goal went in last night. My sadness became glee. :lol: :dread:

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