X-Men: Apocalypse - From the director of the two best X-movies (X2 and DOFP)

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by Buffalo » Tue May 10, 2016 11:14 pm

chalkitdown wrote:It's almost as if different people review different movies for the magazine. Attack of the Clones was once given a 5 Star review, remember. :lol:


Cool. Empire are hardly alone in thinking this is drivel, though.

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by Mafro » Tue May 10, 2016 11:17 pm

As much as I'm dying to see Olivia Munn as Psylocke, I'll probably be giving this a miss in the cinema and just wait till it's out on Blu-ray unless one of my friends is absolutely desperate to see it.

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by suzzopher » Wed May 11, 2016 9:27 am

Weirdly my wife can't wait to see this despite the reviews, she has no interest in the comics but has loved the last two movies.

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by Skippy » Mon May 16, 2016 10:38 pm

Saw this tonight. While I can see why some might give it a lower score, I thought this was good fun and better than expected. The major flaw is Apocalypse. There's no character to him, and that'd be fine if it drew character development from his horsemen, but he doesn't work as this benevolent force either because the make-up is so terrible it regularly breaks the illusion, and the vocal effects are all over the place. He should have been a seven foot tall CG mo-cap character with a booming voice who just wanted to wreck gooseberry fool. Done. None of the faults are really Oscar Isaac's fault, he does his best.

Otherwise good fun though. It descends into a CGI blurr for the first half of the final fight, but then the characterisation comes through and gives the action more meaning. Once that happens it's pretty good, as has been the case with most of this trilogy.

Decent - ***

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by Cheeky Devlin » Mon May 16, 2016 11:12 pm

Skippy wrote:Saw this tonight. While I can see why some might give it a lower score, I thought this was good fun and better than expected. The major flaw is Apocalypse. There's no character to him, and that'd be fine if it drew character development from his horsemen, but he doesn't work as this benevolent force either because the make-up is so terrible it regularly breaks the illusion, and the vocal effects are all over the place. He should have been a seven foot tall CG mo-cap character with a booming voice who just wanted to wreck gooseberry fool. Done. None of the faults are really Oscar Isaac's fault, he does his best.

Otherwise good fun though. It descends into a CGI blurr for the first half of the final fight, but then the characterisation comes through and gives the action more meaning. Once that happens it's pretty good, as has been the case with most of this trilogy.

Decent - ***

So on a scale of comic book movies in 2016 so far.

Civil War>Deadpool>X-Men>>>>>>>BVS?

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by Skippy » Tue May 17, 2016 6:02 am

Cheeky Devlin wrote:
Skippy wrote:Saw this tonight. While I can see why some might give it a lower score, I thought this was good fun and better than expected. The major flaw is Apocalypse. There's no character to him, and that'd be fine if it drew character development from his horsemen, but he doesn't work as this benevolent force either because the make-up is so terrible it regularly breaks the illusion, and the vocal effects are all over the place. He should have been a seven foot tall CG mo-cap character with a booming voice who just wanted to wreck gooseberry fool. Done. None of the faults are really Oscar Isaac's fault, he does his best.

Otherwise good fun though. It descends into a CGI blurr for the first half of the final fight, but then the characterisation comes through and gives the action more meaning. Once that happens it's pretty good, as has been the case with most of this trilogy.

Decent - ***

So on a scale of comic book movies in 2016 so far.

Civil War>Deadpool>X-Men>>>>>>>BVS?


Yep.

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by Corazon de Leon » Tue May 17, 2016 11:18 pm

Film Four have been showing the X-Men chronology in preparation for the new film coming out, and I just caught The Wolverine again. Maybe it's just me, but I thought it was really good on repeat viewing. A solid action film and probably the most faithful representation of Wolverine on screen. A shame it came out on the back of it's shitty predecessor and a really good Wolverine-free X-Men film.

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by Mafro » Tue May 17, 2016 11:20 pm

Some of the Silver Samurai stuff was a bit dodgy but other than that I really enjoyed The Wolverine.

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by SerialCeler » Wed May 18, 2016 12:07 pm

Corazon de Leon wrote:Film Four have been showing the X-Men chronology in preparation for the new film coming out, and I just caught The Wolverine again. Maybe it's just me, but I thought it was really good on repeat viewing. A solid action film and probably the most faithful representation of Wolverine on screen. A shame it came out on the back of it's shitty predecessor and a really good Wolverine-free X-Men film.


I also rewatched it last night, and totally agree. Wolverine actually gets a character arc.

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by chalkitdown » Wed May 18, 2016 12:15 pm

The Wolverine is a great movie. R rated version is even better.

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by CuriousOyster » Wed May 18, 2016 1:18 pm

+1 for enjoying The Wolverine, didn't get the hate for it. The tone of it is great and felt properly in tone to how Wolverine should.

Looking forward to this new film, may see it friday.

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by Skippy » Wed May 18, 2016 2:03 pm

I liked The Wolverine just fine but maybe I should give it another shot. Too late for it to move up my X-Men rankings though - https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/post/144506 ... t-to-worst

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by Corazon de Leon » Wed May 18, 2016 2:11 pm

I'd put it in fifth, without having seen Apocalypse, behind X2, DofP, First Class and probably just about on a par with Deadpool, although I still need to see that again.

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by Hyperion » Wed May 18, 2016 3:48 pm

Is Wolverine in this or is it the first one he's not in?

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by Skippy » Wed May 18, 2016 3:48 pm

Hyperion wrote:Is Wolverine in this or is it the first one he's not?


He is, briefly. It's basically confirmed in a trailer but I've spoilered it anyway to be safe

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by Dual » Wed May 18, 2016 10:02 pm

How do they explain storm being in this when she's an x woman in the other films?

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by Dual » Thu May 19, 2016 7:28 am

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Dual wrote:How do they explain storm being in this when she's an x woman in the other films?


There's no reason she can't be in this? All it means is that she joins the X-Men before X1. That's assuming you treat this as one big collection of interlinked movies the way they want you to... I treat the prequels as their own thing.


I just thought it might have been something they would have mentioned in the first films. Being a horsemen of the apocalypse seems like a pretty big deal.

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by BID0 » Thu May 19, 2016 8:38 am

They've retconned all of those original movies now. They never happened. But you probably knew that :shifty:

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(everything along the top row is retconned and never happened). The only things that have happened is First Class, along with the events set in the Past of DofP.

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by Wedgie » Thu May 19, 2016 11:04 am

Lucien wrote:Saw it there. It's ok. Not great, not terrible. Jennifer Lawrence didn't take the film over like I feared, though there's too much Magneto Magneto's feelings in it. Apocalypse isn't very bright either.

Not really a spoiler but I might not have seen it it if I'd known they only fight Apocalypse and his pals in the last twenty minutes.

Good bits:

- The start, set in ancient Egypt, was really enjoyable.
- The movie flowed pretty well.
- Cyclops, Jean and Nightcrawler feel like a team.
- Jennifer Lawrence doesn't take over like she did in the last movie.


Bad bits:
- Magneto kills a bunch of people and nobody cares, again.
- Apocalypse looks silly at times and does nonsensical things, like recruiting a girl who doesn't like killing as his first horseman.
- Magneto's/everyone's feels.
- Apocalypse looks at people like he wants to have sex with them for the first hour.


Plus it doesn't help that Apocalyse escaped from the Power Rangers The Movie.

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