Xbox 360 launch (22/11/2005) - A retrospective

It puts everything into perspective. It makes the PS3's £425 launch price look absolutely insane. Complete and utter madness.

Not that it needed any help, but it also makes the Wii U's £300 launch price look ridiculous.



I don't know why, but the PS4 still seems to represent good value to me, and I'm not really sure why that is, other than perhaps that I've got far more disposable income now than I did then. I think Plus also factors into it. The console immediately seems to have more value when I know that I'll be getting a game a month - even if it's just an indie game.

I paid 280 snoops in '08 with Gears, Forza 2 and (I think) a 2nd pad. That was pretty good value, to me. Couldn't tell you how big the HDD was.

Harry Bizzle wrote:I don't know why, but the PS4 still seems to represent good value to me, and I'm not really sure why that is, other than perhaps that I've got far more disposable income now than I did then. I think Plus also factors into it. The console immediately seems to have more value when I know that I'll be getting a game a month - even if it's just an indie game.

I think quite a few of us are all of a similar age, and probably have a decent amount of disposable income now with few real-life monetary commitments. I agree, you do look at the price tag and convince yourself that it doesn't represent bad value (the higher Xbox One price helps).

I personally think the Wii U is decent value now for the sub-£200 price tag it has dropped too. It was way too high. I bought one at £249 and that was a rash, impulse purchase. I don't regret it, but it wasn't the price I told myself I would get one at.

Conversely, I never regretted buying the Premium 360 at about that price. I would struggle to justify spending over £300 on a console, though. It isn't about how much disposable income I have, as I could afford one. I just feel it is too much.

HSH28 wrote:

Moggy wrote:

HSH28 wrote:

Moggy wrote:I just checked and I got the following games with my 360.

Call of Duty 2
Condemned
Kameo
Perfect Dark Zero
King Kong

While some of those are dodgy/rubbish, it still kicks the gooseberry fool out of the launch titles for the PS4/Xbone.

A single stand out title? I completely disagree with you. Though to be fair you can add PGR3 and Geometry Wars to Call of Duty 2 to get a better lineup.

You disagree? What a shock.

I think you misunderstand my post though. I am saying a couple of those games were crap. (King Kong) but it was a great launch lineup and better than the PS4 and Xbones.

I understand (King Kong was actually OK), but yeah my point is that it was an ok lineup and it looks to be about on par with Xbox One at least.

Dead Rising 3
Forza 5
Ryse: Son of Rome
Killer Instinct
Crimson Dragon
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Battlefield 4
FIFA 14
Lego Marvel Super Heroes
Need for Speed: Rivals
Call of Duty: Ghosts

The idea that lineup is somehow bad is utterly insane.

I think you will find that I said the 360 launch kicks the gooseberry fool out of the Xbone launch, not that the Xbone launch is bad.

A lot of those are probably good games but AC4, FIFA, CoD, Killer Instinct, NfS are not games that excite me, either because they are current generation titles or because they are boring franchises that I am no longer interested in.

Moggy wrote:I think you will find that I said the 360 launch kicks the gooseberry fool out of the Xbone launch, not that the Xbone launch is bad.

A lot of those are probably good games but AC4, FIFA, CoD, Killer Instinct, NfS are not games that excite me, either because they are current generation titles or because they are boring franchises that I am no longer interested in.

Its implied, if you think an average lineup 'kicks the gooseberry fool' out of another one, then you can imply you think that lineup is bad.

Just because a game might not excite you doesn't mean it can't be counted amongst a good lineup in general. I think its clear that any objective 'kicking the gooseberry fool' out of lineups goes the other way.

I had no interest in the 360 before it came out, nor for a while after it's launch. I'd had a PS2, and was pretty set on getting a PS3. I think it was E3 2006 that changed things. Almost everything I was looking forward to on the PS3 was being announced for the 360, such as Assassins Creed, Virtua Fighter 5, GTA IV, but then on top of that you had all these exclusive new IPs such as Gears of War, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Viva Pinata (yes, I thought it looked great!), as well as continuations of series that I'd never played but had always wanted to play like Halo, Fable and Forza.

I think I'd already made the decision to buy a 360, but probably late in the year, when I saw people posting online about a coupon in the Sun for something like £60 off the Premium 360 at ASDA, so one evening after work I popped down and picked one up. First console I'd ever bought that was not either a Christmas present or bought with birthday/Christmas money. I ordered Oblivion and GRAW online as I'd found cheap deals for them, so popped into Game and bought Halo and Halo 2, and blasted through them with a friend over the next couple of days.

I was blown away by Oblivion in particular, and found GRAW pretty enjoyable too despite not being a fan of shooters back then. I picked up Dead or Alive 4 and played that online quite a bit, and then got Dead Rising, completing it about 4 or 5 times in a couple of weeks. After that it was a steady flow of games until Christmas. Splinter Cell: Double Agent in October I think. I'd never had an Xbox to experience the 'superior' Splinter Cell multiplayer so I thought it's version of Spies vs Mercs was pretty good. Gears of War was next probably remains my favourite online experience. I'd be on it with GRCaders every night. Got my first HD TV the same day Viva Pinata and Rainbow Six: Vegas came out.

HSH28 wrote:

Moggy wrote:I think you will find that I said the 360 launch kicks the gooseberry fool out of the Xbone launch, not that the Xbone launch is bad.

A lot of those are probably good games but AC4, FIFA, CoD, Killer Instinct, NfS are not games that excite me, either because they are current generation titles or because they are boring franchises that I am no longer interested in.

Its implied, if you think an average lineup 'kicks the gooseberry fool' out of another one, then you can imply you think that lineup is bad.

Just because a game might not excite you doesn't mean it can't be counted amongst a good lineup in general. I think its clear that any objective 'kicking the gooseberry fool' out of lineups goes the other way.

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Better now?

Condemned was amazing the first time I played it. Scared the hell out of me.

Didn't join the online till Around the summer after it launched. Then I got my HDTV with oblivion too

Is it really 9 years ago

I was 22...WTF.