Xbox Game Pass now get Xbox Exclusives on Day of Release that will stay permanently.

Venom, you’re way off with your assumptions. Like a million miles off.

Edit: I listed all the facts and figures but don’t want to derail thread.

Peter Crisp wrote:The games now aren't going to just vanish and someone somewhere will archive them and some people will pay to use the service and they'll live on.

Some games are already impossible to get hold of, the idea that everything will just magically be available at some point doesn't seem likely to me.

In fact there was an article about this very issue on Eurogamer over the weekend (its about to be impossible to buy WiiWare games for instance)...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018- ... n-they-die

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HSH28 wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:The games now aren't going to just vanish and someone somewhere will archive them and some people will pay to use the service and they'll live on.

Some games are already impossible to get hold of

Again though, this is only an issue for some and as such is not applicable to everyone. You might find it a difficult train of thought to grasp Hugo, but you also have to accept that some gamers really couldn't care less where the games industry may or may not be ten years or more from now, or where the availability of games from previous generations may or may not stand in a similar time frame. Personally I'd rather just enjoy my gaming for the moment, not worry about what may be happening X amount of years down the line. It's just not that important.

If they are in the Game Pass for any considerable amount of time you’ll get em for Half price in a sale. Several games in game pass have been in MS sales already for more than half off.

Thanks MS, you just saved me a bundle on buying your games. Will now just sub for a month as those games come out.

You showed them man.

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Photek wrote::lol:

You laugh, but there are obviously going to be people that would have purchased those games that are now going to spend less money on them. There are also folk like me that might have bought those games a few months down the line at a reduced price who can now play them day one for around the same money. And then of course there are those that had no interest in the games but now will play them because of the sub.

It's a totally new way of buying games, and the financial model is going to be better for some people and worse for others. It's a brave move by MS, but it seems to have had a positive first impression from most. Forums are littered with comments like 'I'm subscribing right now!' even though there aren't any new games out till March. That's a really good sign.

I'm laughing because I'm sure greater minds than ours factored this into things when making the decision. Does it benefit me? Massively but Microsoft is a business and want that steady revenue stream.

Oh yeah, I'm sure there's been a massive number of graphs and financial projections done, but it's still a risk. There is absolutely the chance that they make less money doing this than selling their games at retail, and they also risk alienating retailers and losing shelf space that way. I hope it's a success as I think it's a great idea but we're in unknown territory here.

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If it does succeed (and I think it will tbh) I can see it being amalgamated into the Live Gold sub in the future. I also think it's success may see other publishers climbing on board game pass.

I initially got Game pass because when I got a new phone, vodafone gave me Spotify for free so I rationalized using that €10 on gamepass. The best thing about game pass is trying games I'd never buy, The Golf Club, Blood Bowl 2, Mad Max and a few others that have surprised me how excellent they are. It's now become essential.

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Photek wrote:Venom, you’re way off with your assumptions. Like a million miles off.

Edit: I listed all the facts and figures but don’t want to derail thread.

I didn't say anything attacking Microsoft or controversial. On this one I think your disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing!

It's not about attacking Microsoft, I don't care about MS anymore than I care about Sony. You seem to have an opinion that Xbox One is some sort of vacous black hole that is sucking MS' money and profits which is misguided and factually inaccurate.

A quick number:
MS' Xbox Division generated nearly 2billlion in revenue last year.
https://venturebeat.com/2017/04/27/microsofts-xbox-gaming-division-generated-1-9-billion-last-quarter/

Now the Xbox Division and it's profits are chump change to MS but it's generating a profit and growing 4% year on year so MS and the head of MS is very happy about it.
https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-reports-higher-gaming-revenue-xbox-live-users-last-quarter/

Photek wrote:It's not about attacking Microsoft, I don't care about MS anymore than I care about Sony.

Did you type that with a straight face?

Moggy wrote:
Photek wrote:It's not about attacking Microsoft, I don't care about MS anymore than I care about Sony.

Did you type that with a straight face?

With the same face as my avatar below. Why would I care? Games and game cancellations are things I care about. Delaying Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2 to this year was a disaster but I wonder if they had this announcement in mind.

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Photek wrote:It's not about attacking Microsoft, I don't care about MS anymore than I care about Sony. You seem to have an opinion that Xbox One is some sort of vacous black hole that is sucking MS' money and profits which is misguided and factually inaccurate.

Comparatively Sony most definitely is a 'small-time' company. Financially it finally has it's head above water but Columbia Pictures is not as profitable as it use to be, so there is an expectation by the public of the need for profitability. Microsoft is the third wealthiest company (by market capitalisation) in the world and with that there is the assumption that they have a bottomless cheque book to spend on whatever they want. However many insider reports on MS have said, understandably, that that isn't the case and different divisions do have spending limits and like smaller companies aim for profitability.

Photek, judging from your previous posts I believe we share the same view - that the Xbox One does not have the same level of unit sales as the 360 had at the four year mark, nor the level of marketshare. Behind the scenes this translates to less income for Microsoft; less unit sales means less Xbox Live subscription revenue and less percentage profits from third party games. So I think it's fair for 'armchair-analysts' to discuss the reasoning for Microsoft's surprising but very exciting decision!

Photek wrote:Why would I care?

Most of us have been asking that for years.

You said a couple of things wrong Venom but yeah it's an exciting decision, the reason for it is what we are disagreeing on but let the good times roll! :toot:

_/\_YUNGSTAR_/\_ wrote:Thanks MS, you just saved me a bundle on buying your games. Will now just sub for a month as those games come out.

To be honest i'll be doing the same, for this years what...3 exclusives? If more, better exclusives down the line then I'd definitely be in.

Looked through the game pass list and nothing would really make me sign up usually. Playing 360 games is good in theory but I play them on X1 for a day then forget about them.

Mind you if Sea of Thieves has legs I'd probably just buy it.

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Photek wrote:You said a couple of things wrong Venom but yeah it's an exciting decision, the reason for it is what we are disagreeing on but let the good times roll!

So you are of the opinion that the Xbox One is outperforming the Xbox 360? I'm so sorry I misinterpreted your viewpoint - how did that make you feel?

It'll be fun to get in on launch day buzz and activity again without having to pay full price.

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