Xbox handheld?

Errkal wrote:Streaming viable. We had this discussion in the OK most people have access to Internet fast enough for streaming. The average UK speed is like 30Mb which is plenty think of how many stream movies now on Netflix or use iplayer streaming a game is no different to that and if Netflix is viable so is game streaming.

For a handheld, streaming needs to be available when you are out and about. If you don't have access to WiFi, you will need a sim or a big capacity for downloads.

Then even if you had this, when on a plane or somewhere without internet access, it becomes an utterly pointless device.

Death's Head wrote:

Errkal wrote:Streaming viable. We had this discussion in the OK most people have access to Internet fast enough for streaming. The average UK speed is like 30Mb which is plenty think of how many stream movies now on Netflix or use iplayer streaming a game is no different to that and if Netflix is viable so is game streaming.

For a handheld, streaming needs to be available when you are out and about. If you don't have access to WiFi, you will need a sim or a big capacity for downloads.

I was thinking more home handheld and streaming stick stuff not a portable like the switch. Xbox games aren't really out and a about type games. There is too much going on screen to play on a piddly screen properly that I don't think they would have much of a call for it.

However streaming a game to your home I think would work l, people then have the option of a sub like the game pass and a cheap game device like a TV stick to play on or no sub but heffer price local hardware.

It could be a way of changing up home consoles and preventing the massive cost of entry to modern consoles due to the hardware needs.

Errkal wrote:

Death's Head wrote:

Errkal wrote:Streaming viable. We had this discussion in the OK most people have access to Internet fast enough for streaming. The average UK speed is like 30Mb which is plenty think of how many stream movies now on Netflix or use iplayer streaming a game is no different to that and if Netflix is viable so is game streaming.

For a handheld, streaming needs to be available when you are out and about. If you don't have access to WiFi, you will need a sim or a big capacity for downloads.

I was thinking more home handheld and streaming stick stuff not a portable like the switch. Xbox games aren't really out and a about type games. There is too much going on screen to play on a piddly screen properly that I don't think they would have much of a call for it.

However streaming a game to your home I think would work l, people then have the option of a sub like the game pass and a cheap game device like a TV stick to play on or no sub but heffer price local hardware.

It could be a way of changing up home consoles and preventing the massive cost of entry to modern consoles due to the hardware needs.

Yes, streaming to your home will definitely work, we do it now. But if MS were to launch a handheld the expectation is that it will be a portable that you can take out and about. I don't think there will be a big market for a "stay at home handheld", that will be competing with lots of other "stay at home" entertainment and misses the point of a handheld.

Death's Head wrote:

Errkal wrote:

Death's Head wrote:

Errkal wrote:Streaming viable. We had this discussion in the OK most people have access to Internet fast enough for streaming. The average UK speed is like 30Mb which is plenty think of how many stream movies now on Netflix or use iplayer streaming a game is no different to that and if Netflix is viable so is game streaming.

For a handheld, streaming needs to be available when you are out and about. If you don't have access to WiFi, you will need a sim or a big capacity for downloads.

I was thinking more home handheld and streaming stick stuff not a portable like the switch. Xbox games aren't really out and a about type games. There is too much going on screen to play on a piddly screen properly that I don't think they would have much of a call for it.

However streaming a game to your home I think would work l, people then have the option of a sub like the game pass and a cheap game device like a TV stick to play on or no sub but heffer price local hardware.

It could be a way of changing up home consoles and preventing the massive cost of entry to modern consoles due to the hardware needs.

Yes, streaming to your home will definitely work, we do it now. But if MS were to launch a handheld the expectation is that it will be a portable that you can take out and about. I don't think there will be a big market for a "stay at home handheld", that will be competing with lots of other "stay at home" entertainment and misses the point of a handheld.

I dunno, I'd have one. Handheld to play in bed, stick on the main TV both streaming from azure.

There will never be an out and about xbox local processing handheld the hardware would weight too much, produce too much heat and the battery requirements would be insane.

Errkal wrote:I dunno, I'd have one. Handheld to play in bed, stick on the main TV both streaming from azure.

You can sort of do this now. My son sometimes streams his XB1 to his tablet.

Death's Head wrote:

Errkal wrote:I dunno, I'd have one. Handheld to play in bed, stick on the main TV both streaming from azure.

You can sort of do this now. My son sometimes streams his XB1 to his tablet.

Yeah I used to, but I think there would be value in not needing any local hardware especially with the price of really good gaming hardware will be.

No.

Green Gecko wrote:No.

Hmm good point, lots to think about there

Errkal wrote:I dunno, I'd have one. Handheld to play in bed, stick on the main TV both streaming from azure.

There will never be an out and about xbox local processing handheld the hardware would weight too much, produce too much heat and the battery requirements would be insane.

Long time that 'never'.

I think it probably could be done now, but it'd be compromised. But in the future? I don't see why not, as the mass production of 7nm and smaller scale CPUs becomes viable the power and cooling requirements go down to produce the same outcomes. Couple that with advances in processor design and batteries that are coming down the line and at some point it will become trivial to produce such a device.

If there was a proper handheld xbox then it would probably be the first xbox I would buy.

But it's never going to happen.

Errkal wrote:

Green Gecko wrote:No.

Hmm good point, lots to think about there

I done a succinct.

Green Gecko wrote:

Errkal wrote:

Green Gecko wrote:No.

Hmm good point, lots to think about there

I done a succinct.

You did, I'm impressed

Handheld? No. Maybe a rectal implant?

I cant see it happeneing, Microsoft as a whole is a services company, they have the Surface and the Xbox and not much else on the hardware side of things. Making a whole new kind of device doesnt seem to gel with what they want to do as a company, couple that with the fact they dont see the Switch as a competitor and Phil Spencers mantra of gaming wherever, as long as its our games then I dont see them ever making a handheld gaming machine. I think theyre more likely to embrace the Switch and make some games available on that, maybe not the big stuff that they will want to keep Xbox exclusive but some back catalogue stuff, specifically Rares older stuff and possibly some smaller download only titles, especially if they have an emphasis on multiplayer, just to stick it to Sony on the cross play thing.

I think there are a lot of areas Microsoft could do well with in regards to a handheld, I bet they'd be a lot like Sony in the way that if a game was on the Xbox and Xbox handheld then if you purchased it digitally for one you'd get it for both, you'd have one login name/account for all games and services etc

kerr9000 wrote:I think there are a lot of areas Microsoft could do well with in regards to a handheld, I bet they'd be a lot like Sony in the way that if a game was on the Xbox and Xbox handheld then if you purchased it digitally for one you'd get it for both, you'd have one login name/account for all games and services etc

They already do that with store purchases across pc and xbox so odds are.

Yeah that's part of my thinking behind saying it, that and the fact when digital Xbox 360 games are made backcomptable you can just instantly instal them if you've brought them in the past etc.