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PostRe: Xbox One Chat - This Weeks Deals (p247)
by myrrh heat than light » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:19 pm

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more heat than light wrote:That's it exactly. If in the future they decide they want to play online then you only need to buy one Gold account for everyone, but it's absolutely not necessary to get the setup you describe.

This is a major plus for me cos my 7year old is getting my original X1 when I have my X1X. Now, if we are to play say, Sea of Thieves or something together, do I have to buy 2 copies?


Not if you buy it digitally, no.

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PostRe: Xbox One Chat - Xbox One X pre-orders out now!!!
by Photek » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:20 pm

I buy everything digitally, thanks man.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:23 pm

Photek wrote:Other half let cat out of the bag that she's getting me an X1X for my birthday. (it launches 2 days after) :wub:


Is anybody else hoping that Photek’s missus doesn’t know much about consoles and ends up buying him a PS4 Pro? ;)

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by Photek » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:27 pm

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Photek wrote:Other half let cat out of the bag that she's getting me an X1X for my birthday. (it launches 2 days after) :wub:


Is anybody else hoping that Photek’s missus doesn’t know much about consoles and ends up buying him a PS4 Pro? ;)

She knows better than that. :lol:

MS are American, she's very patriotic! ;)

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PostRe: Xbox One Chat - Xbox One X pre-orders out now!!!
by BID0 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:27 pm

an actual divorce would be on the cards

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PostRe: Xbox One Chat - This Weeks Deals (p247)
by KingK » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:55 pm

more heat than light wrote:
Photek wrote:
more heat than light wrote:That's it exactly. If in the future they decide they want to play online then you only need to buy one Gold account for everyone, but it's absolutely not necessary to get the setup you describe.

This is a major plus for me cos my 7year old is getting my original X1 when I have my X1X. Now, if we are to play say, Sea of Thieves or something together, do I have to buy 2 copies?


Not if you buy it digitally, no.

So is Gold tied to a console or a profile? Or both, sort of?
I thought it was profile (Gamertag) so any console I signed in would allow me to play Online? But under the 2 consoles in 1 house scenario with kids using 1 console under their own Gamertags and me on a separate console on my Gamertag, surely we can't all be using Gold Live at the same time can we? I'm getting really confused on this now

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PostRe: Xbox One Chat - This Weeks Deals (p247)
by BID0 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:11 pm

KingK wrote:
more heat than light wrote:
Photek wrote:
more heat than light wrote:That's it exactly. If in the future they decide they want to play online then you only need to buy one Gold account for everyone, but it's absolutely not necessary to get the setup you describe.

This is a major plus for me cos my 7year old is getting my original X1 when I have my X1X. Now, if we are to play say, Sea of Thieves or something together, do I have to buy 2 copies?


Not if you buy it digitally, no.

So is Gold tied to a console or a profile? Or both, sort of?
I thought it was profile (Gamertag) so any console I signed in would allow me to play Online? But under the 2 consoles in 1 house scenario with kids using 1 console under their own Gamertags and me on a separate console on my Gamertag, surely we can't all be using Gold Live at the same time can we? I'm getting really confused on this now

It works the same way digital content worked on the 360

Games and Gold are tied to both

The Xbox Live account
The "home" Xbox hardware

So...

Xbox (1) & Main Account = access everything and gold member privileges

Xbox (2) and Secondary Account = if Xbox (2) is set to "home console" of the "Main Account", all secondary accounts playing on that console can access Gold online play and any digital content (games and DLC)

You can have multiple "Main Accounts" set to the same "home console"

Or you could do it in reverse so both accounts can access the others content

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PostRe: Xbox One Chat - This Weeks Deals (p247)
by myrrh heat than light » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:19 pm

KingK wrote:
more heat than light wrote:
Photek wrote:
more heat than light wrote:That's it exactly. If in the future they decide they want to play online then you only need to buy one Gold account for everyone, but it's absolutely not necessary to get the setup you describe.

This is a major plus for me cos my 7year old is getting my original X1 when I have my X1X. Now, if we are to play say, Sea of Thieves or something together, do I have to buy 2 copies?


Not if you buy it digitally, no.

So is Gold tied to a console or a profile? Or both, sort of?
I thought it was profile (Gamertag) so any console I signed in would allow me to play Online? But under the 2 consoles in 1 house scenario with kids using 1 console under their own Gamertags and me on a separate console on my Gamertag, surely we can't all be using Gold Live at the same time can we? I'm getting really confused on this now


It's called Home Gold, and is a new feature for Xbox One. Your Gold account can be shared with up to ten other profiles.

http://support.xbox.com/en-GB/xbox-one/ ... g-features

If you do the gamesharing I described a few posts ago you can absolutely play against each other on two consoles with one account.

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PostRe: Xbox One Chat - This Weeks Deals (p247)
by KingK » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:50 pm

BID0 wrote:
KingK wrote:
more heat than light wrote:
Photek wrote:
more heat than light wrote:That's it exactly. If in the future they decide they want to play online then you only need to buy one Gold account for everyone, but it's absolutely not necessary to get the setup you describe.

This is a major plus for me cos my 7year old is getting my original X1 when I have my X1X. Now, if we are to play say, Sea of Thieves or something together, do I have to buy 2 copies?


Not if you buy it digitally, no.

So is Gold tied to a console or a profile? Or both, sort of?
I thought it was profile (Gamertag) so any console I signed in would allow me to play Online? But under the 2 consoles in 1 house scenario with kids using 1 console under their own Gamertags and me on a separate console on my Gamertag, surely we can't all be using Gold Live at the same time can we? I'm getting really confused on this now

It works the same way digital content worked on the 360

Games and Gold are tied to both

The Xbox Live account
The "home" Xbox hardware

So...

Xbox (1) & Main Account = access everything and gold member privileges

Xbox (2) and Secondary Account = if Xbox (2) is set to "home console" of the "Main Account", all secondary accounts playing on that console can access Gold online play and any digital content (games and DLC)

You can have multiple "Main Accounts" set to the same "home console"

Or you could do it in reverse so both accounts can access the others content


I think I get you but the "main accounts" talk is confusing me now. Sorry :shifty:
The 3 gamertags in our family are mine, plus 2 separate ones for my boys (with own separate email addresses for all 3 of us). They are registered as Child accounts with Microsoft I believe.

They will share the new X1S and will want to play FIFA 18 against each other on the same console mostly. From previous advice I believe I have to set their console as the Home XB1. I have already set their console up with all 3 gamertags. I plan on buying FIFA 18 digitally so we can share it on both consoles.

My console will be used mainly by me with the occasional local MP game against them, or maybe the odd dabble into Live.

So, if I was to buy 1 Gold sub on my Gamertag, and as my gamertag exists on both consoles, then both consoles could use Gold and at the same time too?
What is the "main account"? Is it mine as the parent? How do I designate it as a main account and indeed why do I need to ?

Sorry for all the questions

more heat than light wrote:
KingK wrote:
more heat than light wrote:
Photek wrote:
more heat than light wrote:That's it exactly. If in the future they decide they want to play online then you only need to buy one Gold account for everyone, but it's absolutely not necessary to get the setup you describe.

This is a major plus for me cos my 7year old is getting my original X1 when I have my X1X. Now, if we are to play say, Sea of Thieves or something together, do I have to buy 2 copies?


Not if you buy it digitally, no.

So is Gold tied to a console or a profile? Or both, sort of?
I thought it was profile (Gamertag) so any console I signed in would allow me to play Online? But under the 2 consoles in 1 house scenario with kids using 1 console under their own Gamertags and me on a separate console on my Gamertag, surely we can't all be using Gold Live at the same time can we? I'm getting really confused on this now


It's called Home Gold, and is a new feature for Xbox One. Your Gold account can be shared with up to ten other profiles.

http://support.xbox.com/en-GB/xbox-one/ ... g-features

If you do the gamesharing I described a few posts ago you can absolutely play against each other on two consoles with one account.

Thx for the link. It seems to confirm the above but as it doesn't mention main accounts I'm looking for the above confirmation

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PostRe: Xbox One Chat - Xbox One X pre-orders out now!!!
by myrrh heat than light » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:08 am

Yeah, the 'main' account in this instance would be yours. Sign into the kids console (let's call this console B), and set it as your home Xbox. Then download all the games you want them to have access to. All accounts on here should now have Live access for any game.

On console A only your profile will have access to games unless you are also signed in. You'll have full online access and will be able to play games against the kids profiles on console B.

It's difficult to explain via the medium of text, but I'm sure it'll become clear when you start setting things up.

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by BID0 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:56 am

Profile A owns Halo digitally and is the 'main' account for Halo
Profile B owns FIFA digitally and is the 'main' account for FIFA

Profile B can play both games for free if Profile A sets profile b's Xbox as their Home console. Profile A could only play their game when connected online to Live (this includes single player games), Profile B could play the game online or offline.

This can also be done vice versa so Profile A can play Profile B's game (but the online/offline connection requirement is reversed obviously)

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by Fuzzy Dunlop » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:06 pm

Anybody know the reason why in the last couple of days, been getting quite a few updates for several Xbox 360 games, Doom 2, Ikaruga, Torchlight etc?

Seems a bit strange to get an update after all this time.

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by BID0 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:32 pm

I think the 360 can only store so many games updates (it's held in a different storage location to any game/dlc on the HDD).

If you haven't played a game for a while then that's likely why it popped up, because it's since been overwritten with another games title update.

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by jawafour » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:38 pm

BID0 wrote:I think the 360 can only store so many games updates (it's held in a different storage location to any game/dlc on the HDD).

If you haven't played a game for a while then that's likely why it popped up, because it's since been overwritten with another games title update.

I must admit that I've not heard of this. I've got quite a few 360 games on my hard drive... I wasn't aware of any limitation in the number of title updates that can be stored (beyond the size of the hard drive, of course).

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by Frank » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:40 pm

I had a bunch on my Xbox One today too, weird :? Kingdom/World of Keflings, Banjo Tooie and the two Zuma games are the ones I remember.

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by jawafour » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:43 pm

Ah, I think I got hold of the wrong end of the stick here - I'd thought we were talking about Xbox 360 game updates on actual 360 consoles, not the XBO. Sorry!

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by BID0 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:48 pm

jawafour wrote:
BID0 wrote:I think the 360 can only store so many games updates (it's held in a different storage location to any game/dlc on the HDD).

If you haven't played a game for a while then that's likely why it popped up, because it's since been overwritten with another games title update.

I must admit that I've not heard of this. I've got quite a few 360 games on my hard drive... I wasn't aware of any limitation in the number of title updates that can be stored (beyond the size of the hard drive, of course).

The 360 handled updates differently and in the early days had a strict size limit (which is why in the later days games started bundling their updates with free DLC... ie get a free car, or weapon etc while the rest of the download was for bug fixes and content for the people who paid to unlock the rest of the cars etc)

The limit has since been removed (which is why there was an uproar after MS had sold so many Xbox's without a HDD which meant some people couldn't play the latest games at the time without purchasing a HDD peripheral)

but...

Frank wrote:I had a bunch on my Xbox One today too, weird :? Kingdom/World of Keflings, Banjo Tooie and the two Zuma games are the ones I remember.

It sounds like it's Xbox 360 games on Xbox 1 so what I said is completely irrelevant.

Maybe during testing it's been found these games don't play nice with a future OS update, or the new Xbox 1 X hardware itself and these patches are just to stop a crash etc.

ie don't expect a 4k update.

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PostRe: Xbox One Chat - Xbox One X pre-orders out now!!!
by KingK » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:56 pm

more heat than light wrote:Yeah, the 'main' account in this instance would be yours. Sign into the kids console (let's call this console B), and set it as your home Xbox. Then download all the games you want them to have access to. All accounts on here should now have Live access for any game.

On console A only your profile will have access to games unless you are also signed in. You'll have full online access and will be able to play games against the kids profiles on console B.

It's difficult to explain via the medium of text, but I'm sure it'll become clear when you start setting things up.

Great. I get it now :fp:
Also Thx BID0.

I'd forgotten I've bought Halo5 digitally too in the past but your post reminded me of that. Looks like my boys will have some more XB1 games to play at Xmas :toot:

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PostRe: Xbox One Chat - Xbox One X pre-orders out now!!!
by Frank » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:00 pm

BID0 wrote:Maybe during testing it's been found these games don't play nice with a future OS update, or the new Xbox 1 X hardware itself and these patches are just to stop a crash etc.


That could be it! Does that mean the next new dashboard update is imminent? :o

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