Xbox One Chat - May Xbox Update Available & Introducing the Xbox Adaptive Controller (p289)

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by Peter Crisp » Fri May 18, 2018 2:05 pm

Ironhide wrote:I'm very impressed that MS have actually thought about disabled gamers.

Its early days but I genuinely hope both Sony and Nintendo take note of this significant development towards breaking down the barriers many disabled people face.

Edit: I think I might be able to use it with the accessibility switches I already have, if the USB port on the back works with the mouth joystick/mouse I have then this could be a real game changer for me :toot:


Great stuff.
This is what more companies should be doing as there's really zero downside in helping people to get involved in the hobby we all love :D .

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by Photek » Fri May 18, 2018 2:40 pm

KjGarly wrote:That last update made the home screen snappy whereas before it would slightly lag.

Popped out for a spot of nosh on my lunch break and snapped up Wolfenstein 2 and Fallout 4 both for £15 I know Wolfenstein is X Enhanced due to it saying on the box and I'm sure Fallout is isn't it?

Yeah Fallout 3 & 4 are 4K

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by Ironhide » Fri May 18, 2018 3:51 pm

In depth info about the Xbox One Adaptive controller explaining the design and features.

https://news.microsoft.com/stories/xbox-adaptive-controller/

I'll definitely be getting one to have a fiddle around with as that's really the only way to know if I can use it or not.

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by bear » Fri May 18, 2018 5:43 pm

Fingers crossed it works out for you.
One thing that has surprised/impressed me while reading up about the controller is that they don't seem to trying to get people to buy Microsoft peripherals to plug into the base. The Arstechnica video shows a demo where a Rock Band pedal is being used for acceleration in Rocket League. If people had to invest in a whole new ecosystem that'd limit this devices appeal so it's good that Microsoft aren't going down that road.

On the other end of the scale I am curious to see just what sort of crazy custom control setups people come up with for titles like Elite using this as the base.

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by captain red dog » Sat May 19, 2018 2:31 pm

Can't wait for this controller to be released. I managed to get a decent controller for my wife to play on the 360 but it wasn't compatible on the Xbox One. By contrast the Switch controller joycons are perfect for her held horizontally as they are small enough for her to use one handed with limited use of her right hand.

So ill probably invest quite heavily in this controller and some addons so that she can game properly on the Xbox One.

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by KK » Sat May 19, 2018 4:21 pm

Apparently Amazon has gone and strawberry floated up AGAIN with deliveries, this time with the Duke controller. It officially came out yesterday but they’re emailing pre-order customers to say they now can’t deliver it until next week.

Gone to gooseberry fool this company.

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by Ironhide » Sat May 19, 2018 4:43 pm

The main problem I can see people having isn't to do with the controller but sourcing the accessibility switches themselves isn't easy, most can be obtained by healthcare professionals such as Occupational Therapists but as they can be expensive (especiallly the ultra sensitive ones I need) most health authorities will only provide a single switch at a time and most don't see gaming as a necessity to daily life.

There are charities like the wonderful SpecialEffect who provide equipment and advice to disabled gamers who can obtain the switches but obviously can't help everyone as they don't have infinite resources.

I recently managed to buy some of the ultra sensitive switches myself at a reasonable price (£22 each) but I had to import them from the US and the import fees were ridiculous,, three switches ended up costing me around £115. Tried looking at UK suppliers but the switches I needed were £60 each so importing was the cheapest option available.

These are the ones I need as I have very little finger mobility:
http://www.inclusive.co.uk/tash-microlight-switch-p2608

The ones I got were a cheaper alternative unavoidable in the UK but aren't as durable or as easy to position as the above.

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by Gemini73 » Sat May 19, 2018 5:05 pm

Really hope this new controller works out, Iron. As you suggest it could really open up the range of games you can play.

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by kerr9000 » Sat May 19, 2018 5:44 pm

My Fiancee has Fibromyalgia, and this can bring a whole bunch of pain and sensitivity etc with it which can ebb and flow. She finds it very tiring at times to hold a pad up etc so I am thinking maybe with this she could put it on a table at a comfy level and it might make things easier. I think its great and im intrested in it on multiple levels

I read the whole link and the bit I really like was when it says......

''An adaptive controller wouldn't necessarily generate a significant return on investment. But it was important to Microsoft's goal of making gaming more accessible to people with disabilities, and it spoke directly to the company's mission, to enable every person and organization on the planet to achieve more.''

I find it great that they know its not a money spinner but there basically saying there is more to life/business than profit....

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by KjGarly » Fri May 25, 2018 10:55 am

Got myself a nice selection of X Enhanced games on disc now. Resident Evil 7, Wolfenstein 2, Doom, Witcher 3, Red Dead Redemption and Fallout 4. Now I just need the time to play them. Played about an hour of Resident Evil and it looks great in 4k, same with Wolfenstein 2 except the framerate doesn't seem to hold at 60fps which is a shame.

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by Photek » Fri May 25, 2018 11:37 am

Man I need a 4K TV, I mean several games look stunning just down sampled to 1080p. SoT's, Gears 4, AC Origins, Forza Horizon 3 and The Witcher 3 look ridiculously good, I can only imagine they'll look peerless in 4K.

A few games that got enhanced didn't really hit me as much as others, Mafia 3, Skyrim, Fallout 4, Dishonored 2, Resident Evil 7 and Hitman all got bumped to 4K but as far as I can tell, they didn't get anything else enhanced. Don't get me wrong, they all look clean and crisper than before but I think a 4K TV would really show off the enhancements.

It did smooth out the framerate in Dishonored 2 and Mafia 3 though so still worth while. I like the option to have a higher frame rate, Gears 4, Hitman and Rise of the Tomb Raider in performance modes are genuinely trans-formative experiences. The Witcher 3 has a performance mode but I literally can't tell the difference, it's smooth AF in either mode (on X) and 1440p looks as clean as 4K to my eyeballs in 1080p.

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by KjGarly » Fri May 25, 2018 12:35 pm

Res Evil gets better shadows (better than PS4 Pro's) along with an almost stable 60fps unlike OG Xbone which was low 50's alot, extra bump mapping or something on skin and a higher resolution than PS4's Pro.

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New to Xbox One? This might answer some questions you have -https://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/5k26th/merry_christmas_rxboxone_found_a_new_console/

[b][u]Non-Games Xbox Threads[/u][/b]

Inside Xbox Thread - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnsGU9YZz4Q
Xbox Game Pass - http://grcade.co.uk/t:ms-announce-xbox-game-pass-subscription-service?f=2
EA Access - http://grcade.co.uk/t:ea-access-for-xbox-one-subscription-service?f=2&st=0
Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - http://grcade.co.uk/t:xbox-one-backwards-compatibility?f=2
2017 E3 Xbox Briefing - http://grcade.co.uk/t:2017-e3-xbox-media-briefing-sunday-june-11th-at-10pm?f=2
Xbox One X - http://grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=39690&p=3968065&hilit=xbox+one+s#p3968065
Original Xbox Back Compatibilty - http://grcade.co.uk/t:original-xbox-back-compatibilty-announced---out-later-this-year-with-crimson-skies?f=2
Xbox One S - http://grcade.co.uk/t:xbox-slim-leaks?f=2
Xbox Smaller Game thread - http://grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34049&p=3116515&hilit=xbox+one+smaller+games#p3116515
Elite controller - http://grcade.co.uk/t:the-most-insane-thing-at-e3-130-controller?f=2
Xbox Game Preview - http://grcade.co.uk/t:xbox-game-preview-chat---elite-dangerous-amp-the-long-dark-out-today?f=2
Mixer - http://grcade.co.uk/t:beam-renamed-to-mixer---now-has-4-player-streaming-crowd-play-amp-4k-streaming?f=2
Xbox Design Lab controller - http://grcade.co.uk/t:xbox-design-lab-controller-now-available-for-uk?f=2
Xbox One to Stream to Oculus Rift - http://grcade.co.uk/t:xbox-one-to-stream-to-oculus-rift-announced?f=2&p=3762286#p3762286

[b][u]Xbox One Console Exclusive games[/u][/b]

State of Decay 2 - http://grcade.co.uk/t:state-of-decay-2-win10-xbox-one?f=2&p=4063883#p4063883
Sea of Thieves - http://grcade.co.uk/t:sea-of-thieves-xbox-one---rare-pirate-game?f=2
Forza 7 - http://grcade.co.uk/t:forza-motorsport-7-xb1win10---out-october-3rd?f=2
Player Unknowns Battlegrounds - http://grcade.co.uk/t:player-unknowns-battlegrounds-pc--xbox-one-late-2017?f=2
Cuphead - http://grcade.co.uk/t:cuphead--1930s-cartoon-spectacular?f=2
Halo Wars 2 - http://grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38643&p=3797889&hilit=halo+wars#p3797889
Gears of War 4 - http://grcade.co.uk/t:gears-of-war-4-announced---out-holiday-2016?f=2
Forza Horizon 3 - http://grcade.co.uk/t:forza-horizon-3-xb1win10---out-27th-sep?f=2&p=3968103#p3968103
Super Lucky Tale - http://grcade.co.uk/t:super-luckys-tale-xb1win10---free-with-game-pass?f=2
Dead Rising 4 - http://grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=39677&p=3966234&hilit=dead+rising+4#p3966234
Halo 5: Guardians - http://grcade.co.uk/t:halo-reveal-at-11am?f=2&st=0
Recore - http://grcade.co.uk/t:recore-xbox-one---out-spring-2016-from-keiji-inafune?f=2
Inside - http://grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=36305&p=3471969&hilit=inside#p3471969
We Happy Few - http://grcade.co.uk/t:we-happy-few-xb1pc---out-26th-july-on-xbox-game-preview?f=2&p=4000013#p4000013
Quantum Break - http://www.grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=33839
Phantom Dust - http://grcade.co.uk/t:phantom-dust-announced-xbox-one?f=2&st=0
Rise of the Tomb Raider - http://grcade.co.uk/t:rise-of-the-tomb-raider?f=2
Forza Motorsport 6 - http://grcade.co.uk/t:forza-6-xbox-one-announced?f=2
Rare Replay - http://grcade.co.uk/t:rare-replay--4th-august-2015--30-games-for-30?f=2
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition - http://grcade.co.uk/t:gears-of-war-ultimate-edition-announced---out-25th-aug-beta-out-now?f=2
Halo: The Master Chief Collection - http://grcade.co.uk/t:halo-the-master-chief-collection-coming-to-xbox-one?f=2&p=3445868#p3445868
Forza Horizon 2 - http://grcade.co.uk/t:forza-horizon-2-xb1--xb360-this-fall-screens-page-3?p=3460540
Sunset Overdrive - http://www.grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34027
Titanfall - http://www.grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=33988
State of Decay: Year-One Survival Edition - http://grcade.co.uk/t:state-of-decay-year-one-survival-edition-xbox-one?f=2
Ori and the Blind Forest - http://grcade.co.uk/t:ori-and-the-blind-forest-xbox-one-amp-pc---out-11th-march?f=2
Ryse: Son of Rome - http://www.grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34024
Forza Motorsport 5 - http://www.grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=33851
Minecraft Xbox One Edition
Dead Rising 3 - http://www.grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34022
Killer Instinct - http://grcade.co.uk/t:killer-instinct-season-2---out-15th-of-october?f=2
Crimson Dragon - http://www.grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21339=34021
Project Spark - http://www.grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34152
D4 - http://grcade.co.uk/t:d4-dark-dreams-dont-die---out-now-destructiod-9?f=2
Fantasia: Music Evolved - http://www.grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=33964
Xbox Fitness - http://grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34813&p=3231887&hilit=xbox+fitness#p3231887
Kinect Sports Rivals
Cities Skyline
Zoo Tycoon
Fighter Within
Lococycle
Powerstar Golf
Elite Dangerous
Max: The Curse of Brotherhood (also available on 360)
Kinnect Sports Rivals

[b][u]Some notable future console exclusive games[/u][/b]

Ori and the Will of the Wisps - http://grcade.co.uk/t:ori-and-the-will-of-the-wisps-xb1win10---e3-2017---4k-teaser-trailer?f=2
Crackdown 3 - http://grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=33841&p=3085653&hilit=crackdown#p3085653
Below - http://grcade.co.uk/t:below-xbone-first-other-platforms-after-a-period-of-t?f=2&t=34162
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Ashen
Tacoma

Fable Legends (Cancelled) - http://grcade.co.uk/t:fable-legends----is-this-the-new-fable-game?f=2
Untitled Black Tusk game (Cancelled) - http://www.grcade.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=34026&p=3113099&hilit=black+tusk#p3113099
Scalebound (Cancelled) - http://grcade.co.uk/t:scalebound-from-platinum-games-announced-xbox-one?f=2
Gears of War acquired - http://grcade.mobi/t:microsoft-acquires-rights-to-gears-of-war-from-epic-ga?f=2&st=0&sid=6813111dd472849e52f55e995067dfa3

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[b][u]Xbox One Games trailer[/u][/b]

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[b][u]Xbox One Unboxing video[/u][/b]

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[b][u]Xbox One Reveal Trailer[/u][/b]

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[b][u]Dashboard demo[/u][/b]

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[quote][b]Xbox One: The Complete All-in-One Games and Entertainment System[/b]

Since we unveiled Xbox One in May as the all-in-one games and entertainment system, we’ve been highlighting all the great games coming at launch and beyond.  We’ve talked about the award-winning Titanfall – an Xbox platform and PC exclusive; shared content exclusives we’ll have from hit titles like Call of Duty: Ghosts and Battlefield 4; discussed new features from hotly anticipated titles like Forza Motorsport 5, Ryse: Son of Rome, and Dead Rising 3; and highlighted cross-platform blockbusters like Destiny, Watch Dogs, and Assassin’s Creed 4: Black Flag.

We’ve talked about how Xbox One was designed for gamers – with the most active multiplayer community and new features like Smart Match, Game DVR and Upload that will continue to make the Xbox Live community the best place to play and connect with other gamers. We also talked about our shared vision with key gaming entertainment partners like Twitch and Machinima that will take your gaming experience to a level not available anywhere else.

We’re proud of our Xbox One games line-up. And we’re proud of the innovative features we’re delivering to make gaming great on Xbox One. Today, we’re adding to the story – and sharing how Xbox One is as good at TV & entertainment as it is at gaming. Because we know gamers love both.

As we head toward Nov. 22, we’re showcasing the all-in-one capabilities of Xbox One. This is the real Xbox One in action. Corporate Vice President of Marketing and Strategy, Yusuf Mehdi, and Chief Product Officer Marc Whitten show the best of Xbox One in this new video. And, you can see 10 of our favorite new features below.

[b]#1 – Unleashing the Power of Your Voice[/b]
A simple voice command turns on your Xbox One, your TV, your set-top box and your AV system because Kinect for Xbox One is an Infra-Red blaster. And when you say “Xbox On,” your game is always ready to resume from wherever you left off. You can start playing your favorite game, find your favorite show, change channels, turn up the TV volume and more – with the sound of your voice, powered by Bing voice recognition technology.  Just say “Xbox, go to ESPN” and your TV will change directly to the ESPN channel. Or, “Xbox, go to Hulu Plus,” “Xbox, Volume Up,” “Xbox, Mute,” "Xbox, go to Music” – it’s simple. Kinect “talks to” your TV, set-top box and AV receiver, making it easier than ever to navigate entertainment in your living room.

[b]#2 – Biometric Sign In[/b]
Kinect can recognize you and instantly log you into your personalized home screen. Your favorite games, shows, TV channels, movies, albums, Skype contacts, recently-played apps and more can be pinned right to your home page – so you can find everything you love quickly. Biometric sign in and personalization extends to everyone in your house – each person has a home screen tailored just for them.

[b]#3 – Instant Resume and Instant Switching[/b]
We’ve talked about instant switching before, but now you can see it for yourself in action. The video showcases how quickly you can jump from one experience to another and right back where you left off. You can literally jump from a game to live TV, music, movies, sports, Web sites and back again in seconds, just by using your voice.

[b]#4 – Watch Live TV via Xbox One[/b]
Xbox One lets you watch live TV from your HDMI-compatible cable or satellite box, making it easy to switch from games to live TV – all with the sound of your voice, and without having to switch TV inputs. No more multiple remotes, missed multiplayer matches while you’re watching TV, or frustrating delays. Just connect your set top box to your Xbox One and you can watch live TV through your Xbox One.

[b]#5 – Get a Multiplayer Invite, while you are Watching a movie or live TV[/b]
Imagine never missing a multiplayer invite, or an epic game battle while engrossed in a movie or TV episode. With Xbox One, TV and games are not separate. You can be watching your favorite show, the big game, or a movie like "Star Trek Into Darkness," and still receive an invite to play a game with your friends. You will always be connected to your gaming community and with features like Smart Match and reputation management in Xbox One, you don’t have to choose between your games and entertainment.

[b]#6 – Game DVR and Upload Studio Let You Record and Share Your Greatest Moments[/b]
Imagine you’re in the middle of an intense race or a battle and you want to record this ultimate gaming moment. With Game DVR on Xbox One, you can capture your greatest moments, add your own creative touch with Upload Studio and share with your friends. By simply saying “Xbox, record that” your gameplay is recorded. Or, you can take advantage of a five-minute buffer that’s constantly recording in case something remarkable happens and you weren’t expecting it. With the Upload Studio, you can turn your gameplay footage into a work of art, record a taunt over the segment, add a skin and share it with your friends.

[b]#7 – Do Two Things at Once[/b]
You can also choose to snap two experiences together – so you can play a game while you watch TV or listen to Xbox Music. Or, watch the big NFL game while you manage your fantasy football team. For gamers, snapping Machinima opens up a whole new world of opportunity. Just by saying “Xbox, Snap Machinima,” the Machinima app will be snapped next to “Dead Rising 3” or your favorite game, and walk-throughs, game reviews, help videos and more will appear.

[b]#8 – Skype on the Big Screen, With Groups and Free Long Distance[/b]
Skype is amazing on Xbox One, offering the only big screen experience with Group Video Chat with up to four people. Kinect is the only camera in the world that will follow the caller and pan and zoom automatically as if you had your own camera man. You can talk with your friends while surfing the Web or checking the latest stats of a sports team. And have full 1080p video calls for one-to-one chats on your TV.

[b]#9 – OneGuide Delivers Personalized Guide to TV, Apps and More[/b]
Xbox One has its own TV listings guide that can be navigated with your voice. Say “Xbox, what’s on Discovery Channel?” and boom, there you have the list of shows.  Call out your favorite TV show by name and start watching it instantly.  And, Xbox One is the only system that brings together your favorite TV channels and entertainment app channels into one screen.  Create your own personal Favorites in OneGuide, so you can easily choose what you want to watch – whether it’s on Fox, CBS, NBC, ESPN, Hulu Plus or the NFL on Xbox One app. For the first time you don’t have to juggle multiple screens across cable TV, video streaming services and other entertainment apps to quickly find the entertainment you’re looking for.

[b]#10 – Xbox SmartGlass Enhances Gaming in New Way[/b]
You can use the Xbox SmartGlass app for Xbox One to stay connected with the Xbox Live community to check your Achievements and game progress, watch Game DVR clips and message your friends in the living room or on the go. Xbox SmartGlass can be used to navigate the Home screen, search, or browse the web. And, on Xbox One, Xbox SmartGlass displays game help and hints during gameplay and can support up to 16 devices at one time across your favorite games and entertainment. You can also search the entire Xbox catalog and pin content so it’s waiting for you when you turn on your console. The Xbox SmartGlass app is a free download for Windows 8, Windows Phone 8, iOS and Android devices and will be available on Nov. 22.[/quote]
http://news.xbox.com/2013/11/xbox-one-complete-games-entertainment

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