Xbox One X - out now!

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PostXbox One X - out now!
by Garth » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:05 pm

New Xbox console coming towards the end of 2017!



8 Cores
6 TFlops
320GB/s memory bandwidth
4K/VR Gaming
BC and forward compatible with controllers and games
Releasing late 2017

Leaker says Oculus and Vive VR support.

Games will work across Scorpio, Xbox One and Xbox One S:
Microsoft has slowly been adding Xbox 360-game support to the Xbox One, but now it plans to radically expand that initiative. Moving forward, Microsoft wants to bring the PC approach to consoles, treating all Xbox One games the same: they’ll all work no matter which iteration of the hardware you own. The next Halo will look better if you have Project Scorpio and a new 4K television to take advantage of all its capabilities, but it will still work on your current machine. "The idea is that wherever we are from the 360 generation on," Spencer says of the ability to carry over your library to new devices, "we’re investing in Xbox Live and content so that as you upgrade the experience moves with you."

Spencer says he expects new games will continue to work on older consoles "for a long time." And while I may technically be able to run the latest Xbox One games on my original hardware, that doesn’t mean I won’t be looking at the splendid 4K visuals on Project Scorpio with envy. But Spencer believes that choice is the key factor to this paradigm shift.

"What we’re saying is that we’re going to ship Xbox One games, and those games will run on Xbox One, run on Xbox One S, and run on Scorpio"


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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 320GB/s bandwidth, 4K+VR gaming, full BC
by Floex » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:09 pm

I said God damn.

Glad they're moving on from the Flopbox as soon as. They couldn't compete with what they currently have.

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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 320GB/s bandwidth, 4K+VR gaming, full BC
by HSH28 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:14 pm

Floex wrote:Glad they're moving on from the Flopbox as soon as. They couldn't compete with what they currently have.


They aren't moving on, this is all the 'Xbox One Family', no one gets left behind.

The end of generations.

I'd imagine this thing is going to be expensive...PS3 expensive. Basically as powerful as a PC with a 1070 in it.

Interesting that they didn't announce a partnership with any particular VR company I thought.

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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 320GB/s bandwidth, 4K+VR gaming, full BC
by Garth » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:14 pm

HSH28 wrote:Interesting that they didn't announce a partnership with any particular VR company I thought.


It would be pretty awesome if it supports multiple VR options.

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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 320GB/s bandwidth, 4K+VR gaming, full BC
by jawafour » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:18 pm

HSH28 wrote:...I'd imagine this thing is going to be expensive...PS3 expensive. Basically as powerful as a PC with a 1070 in it...

Definitely. All that talk about POWER (roar!); I'm anticipating a price around £549 to £599.

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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 320GB/s bandwidth, 4K+VR gaming, full BC
by HSH28 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:21 pm

jawafour wrote:
HSH28 wrote:...I'd imagine this thing is going to be expensive...PS3 expensive. Basically as powerful as a PC with a 1070 in it...

Definitely. All that talk about POWER (roar!); I'm anticipating a price around £549 to £599.


Maybe, that would be a risk though. I guess it stamps it as the proper high end of console gaming (they need to bundle an Elite controller).

I wouldn't be surprised if its a little less than that though, £450ish perhaps. Remember that tech is really expensive now, but then they aren't launching now, its another 18 months away.

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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 4K+VR gaming, full BC, 320GB/s memory bandwidth
by Return_of_the_STAR » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:22 pm

Wow. I'll stick with my xbox one for a while.

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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 320GB/s bandwidth, 4K+VR gaming, full BC
by jawafour » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:23 pm

HSH28 wrote:...Remember that tech is really expensive now, but then they aren't launching now, its another 18 months away.

That's a good point. I still think it'll be very steep; I wouldn't be surpised by a £550 price ticket.

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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 4K+VR gaming, full BC, 320GB/s memory bandwidth
by Rog » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:24 pm

So is this still AMD chips? They have the R9 480 but if MS are to be believed this is a little more powerful.

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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 320GB/s bandwidth, 4K+VR gaming, full BC
by Peter Crisp » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:27 pm

jawafour wrote:
HSH28 wrote:...Remember that tech is really expensive now, but then they aren't launching now, its another 18 months away.

That's a good point. I still think it'll be very steep; I wouldn't be surpised by a £550 price ticket.


I suppose times have moved on but I remember the Amiga 1200 being £400 so £550 today doesn't seem that outrageous to me.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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by jawafour » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:30 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:I suppose times have moved on but I remember the Amiga 1200 being £400 so £550 today doesn't seem that outrageous to me.

Amiga A1200 :wub: . Still got it in the loft.

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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 4K+VR gaming, full BC, 320GB/s memory bandwidth
by ITSMILNER » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:34 pm

Thing is, I'm happy with the way my games look already, if devs can't use this power for other features in games then I see no point in the upgrade

Am I missing something?

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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 320GB/s bandwidth, 4K+VR gaming, full BC
by Peter Crisp » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:36 pm

jawafour wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:I suppose times have moved on but I remember the Amiga 1200 being £400 so £550 today doesn't seem that outrageous to me.

Amiga A1200 :wub: . Still got it in the loft.


Same here.
It was one of the few machines I had left after I got burgled and they swiped a 20 year collection of machines. It's why I'm now not that bothered about having a collection.

Do you remember Atari 2600 games costing £60 each that was bloody stupid.

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jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 320GB/s bandwidth, 4K+VR gaming, full BC
by _/\_YUNGSTAR_/\_ » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:37 pm

Floex wrote:I said God damn.

Glad they're moving on from the Flopbox as soon as. They couldn't compete with what they currently have.

strawberry floating moron.

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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 320GB/s bandwidth, 4K+VR gaming, full BC
by jawafour » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:39 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:...It was one of the few machines I had left after I got burgled and they swiped a 20 year collection of machines. It's why I'm now not that bothered about having a collection.

Bloody hell, that sucks, Peter. Burglers really are scum.

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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 320GB/s bandwidth, 4K+VR gaming, full BC
by Glowy69 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:41 pm

_/\_YUNGSTAR_/\_ wrote:
Floex wrote:I said God damn.

Glad they're moving on from the Flopbox as soon as. They couldn't compete with what they currently have.

strawberry floating moron.

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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 320GB/s bandwidth, 4K+VR gaming, full BC
by Peter Crisp » Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:45 pm

jawafour wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:...It was one of the few machines I had left after I got burgled and they swiped a 20 year collection of machines. It's why I'm now not that bothered about having a collection.

Bloody hell, that sucks, Peter. Burglers really are scum.


It was a while ago and I was more pissed of by my Mum having her jewellery stollen.
It puts things in perspective and I'm less bothered about my stuff now.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 320GB/s bandwidth, 4K+VR gaming, full BC
by Delusibeta » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:09 pm

Assuming that backwards compatibility holds, the transition towards incremental console generations means that ecosystems and game collections become a large factor. The big problem Microsoft faces is convincing people to abandon their PS4 games collection. That, I suspect, will be a far larger problem than they anticipate. Likewise, I can see Sony having similar issues convincing Xbox users. I suspect the end result would be that incremental console generations will cement the current status quo, which would be disastrous for Microsoft.

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HSH28 wrote:Interesting that they didn't announce a partnership with any particular VR company I thought.


It would be pretty awesome if it supports multiple VR options.

I would be surprised if they supported the Vive. Certainly, Oculus certainly doesn't. :lol:

Rog wrote:So is this still AMD chips? They have the R9 480 but if MS are to be believed this is a little more powerful.

Unconfirmed, but it would be a safe assumption.

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PostRe: RE: Re: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 320GB/s bandwidth, 4K+VR gaming, full BC
by Death's Head » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:15 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:
jawafour wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:I suppose times have moved on but I remember the Amiga 1200 being £400 so £550 today doesn't seem that outrageous to me.

Amiga A1200 :wub: . Still got it in the loft.


Same here.
It was one of the few machines I had left after I got burgled and they swiped a 20 year collection of machines. It's why I'm now not that bothered about having a collection.

Do you remember Atari 2600 games costing £60 each that was bloody stupid.

No. I only remember Atari VCS games costing £30, with the exception of one space game that came with an odd controller for about £45. Atari must have loved it when Activision arrived on the scene with £10 games.

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PostRe: Xbox Project Scorpio - 6Tflops console, 4K+VR gaming, full BC, 320GB/s memory bandwidth
by Peter Crisp » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:17 pm

So how near to that snazzy new 1080 pc graphics card will that make this?
Has the 1080 been benchmarked?

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.

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