Xbox One X

Moggy wrote:...It all comes down to the X will be a little bit prettier. Which is not worth paying £250 extra for.

Peter Crisp wrote:

NickSCFC wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:One of the huge benefits of the extra power will be for VR so once they reveal that I think they'll have an easier time showing why people need an Xbox X.

About that...

https://www.cnet.com/news/microsofts-xb ... l-reality/

What an odd decision if true given that PSVR seems to be doing pretty well and the X could manage VR easily.

jawafour wrote:

Moggy wrote:...It all comes down to the X will be a little bit prettier. Which is not worth paying £250 extra for.

Perhaps a wee bit harsh, Moggy! The X is a beast of a machine and what we've seen hasn't really demonstrated the potential. If developers were to utilise that power, the games would look and move far better than on other consoles. I suspect that the infamous "nobody gets left behind" quote is a nice phrase rather than a strict rule; rather like in the days when games would appear on both the Spectrum and the Amiga or the Master System and the Mega Drive... you can play the "same" game but there is no doubting which offers the better experience.

The cost aspect, whilst a reasonable argument, doesn't really stand as a blocking point in the longer term. All new machines cost more and, realistically, on that basis we could suggest that it wasn't worth getting an XBO or a PS4 over the previous gen consoles. Maybe it was a valid point in the first six months or so after launch but, in time, the games showcase the benefits of the newer machines.

jawafour wrote:

Moggy wrote:...It all comes down to the X will be a little bit prettier. Which is not worth paying £250 extra for.

Perhaps a wee bit harsh, Moggy! The X is a beast of a machine and what we've seen hasn't really demonstrated the potential. If developers were to utilise that power, the games would look and move far better than on other consoles. I suspect that the infamous "nobody gets left behind" quote is a nice phrase rather than a strict rule; rather like in the days when games would appear on both the Spectrum and the Amiga or the Master System and the Mega Drive... you can play the "same" game but there is no doubting which offers the better experience.

The cost aspect, whilst a reasonable argument, doesn't really stand as a blocking point in the longer term. All new machines cost more and, realistically, on that basis we could suggest that it wasn't worth getting an XBO or a PS4 over the previous gen consoles. Maybe it was a valid point in the first six months or so after launch but, in time, the games showcase the benefits of the newer machines.

Moggy wrote:

jawafour wrote:

Moggy wrote:...It all comes down to the X will be a little bit prettier. Which is not worth paying £250 extra for.

Perhaps a wee bit harsh, Moggy! The X is a beast of a machine and what we've seen hasn't really demonstrated the potential. If developers were to utilise that power, the games would look and move far better than on other consoles. I suspect that the infamous "nobody gets left behind" quote is a nice phrase rather than a strict rule; rather like in the days when games would appear on both the Spectrum and the Amiga or the Master System and the Mega Drive... you can play the "same" game but there is no doubting which offers the better experience.

The cost aspect, whilst a reasonable argument, doesn't really stand as a blocking point in the longer term. All new machines cost more and, realistically, on that basis we could suggest that it wasn't worth getting an XBO or a PS4 over the previous gen consoles. Maybe it was a valid point in the first six months or so after launch but, in time, the games showcase the benefits of the newer machines.

The Xbone and PS4 played games that weren't available on 360 and PS4. That's the difference.

If XboneX and PS4Pro have exclusive games, then the machines have a point. Otherwise it's £100s extra for something that just makes things a little prettier.

Moggy wrote:The Xbone and PS4 played games that weren't available on 360 and PS4. That's the difference.

If XboneX and PS4Pro have exclusive games, then the machines have a point. Otherwise it's £100s extra for something that just makes things a little prettier.

NickSCFC wrote:

Moggy wrote:

jawafour wrote:

Moggy wrote:...It all comes down to the X will be a little bit prettier. Which is not worth paying £250 extra for.

Perhaps a wee bit harsh, Moggy! The X is a beast of a machine and what we've seen hasn't really demonstrated the potential. If developers were to utilise that power, the games would look and move far better than on other consoles. I suspect that the infamous "nobody gets left behind" quote is a nice phrase rather than a strict rule; rather like in the days when games would appear on both the Spectrum and the Amiga or the Master System and the Mega Drive... you can play the "same" game but there is no doubting which offers the better experience.

The cost aspect, whilst a reasonable argument, doesn't really stand as a blocking point in the longer term. All new machines cost more and, realistically, on that basis we could suggest that it wasn't worth getting an XBO or a PS4 over the previous gen consoles. Maybe it was a valid point in the first six months or so after launch but, in time, the games showcase the benefits of the newer machines.

The Xbone and PS4 played games that weren't available on 360 and PS4. That's the difference.

If XboneX and PS4Pro have exclusive games, then the machines have a point. Otherwise it's £100s extra for something that just makes things a little prettier.

We're bound to get £350 PS5 and Xbox Two in 2020 anyway.

jawafour wrote:

Moggy wrote:The Xbone and PS4 played games that weren't available on 360 and PS4. That's the difference.

If XboneX and PS4Pro have exclusive games, then the machines have a point. Otherwise it's £100s extra for something that just makes things a little prettier.

The launch games for the XBO and PS4 rarely demonstrated technical or gameplay style improvements over last gen titles. In time, developers learn to exploit the new technology and I'm sure that'll happen with the Pro and the X. I feel that both manufacturers will, over time, work to better demonstrate the benefits of the newer machines in a bid to create a competitive edge and garner attention. In the longer term, and particularly as the production costs are lowered, I could see the two "boosted" machines becoming the standard.

Moggy wrote:...This is not the same thing under the current strategy of “nobody left behind”.

NickSCFC wrote:Microsoft have shifted their attention towards Mixed Reality, which they're partnering on with HP, Acer, Asus, Dell and Lenovo.

https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/w ... ed-reality

Peter Crisp wrote:

NickSCFC wrote:Microsoft have shifted their attention towards Mixed Reality, which they're partnering on with HP, Acer, Asus, Dell and Lenovo.

https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/w ... ed-reality

Marvellous.
Did they look at the already high price of entry for VR and decide they didn't want to get involved with those peasants?
PSVR with camera and remotes is about £450 so I can't wait to see what Mixed Reality costs as it's bound to be way more expensive.

Here’s a list of games that run at 4K on Xbox One X

Yesterday, Microsoft revealed the Xbox One X, the most powerful console ever created. Since its launch, the PlayStation 4 Pro has struggled to reach the 4K resolution with only a handful of titles supporting it on Sony’s console. However, Microsoft blew expectations out of the water when they announced dozens of 4K games for Project Scorpio…we mean Xbox One X. Here’s a list of all games that we know are going to be 4K. From our understanding, the games mentioned below—barring any changes—will run at 3840 by 2160 pixels (4K UHD) on Xbox One X.

Anthem
Ashen
Ark: Survival Evolved
The Artful Escape
Assassin’s Creed Origins
Astroneer
Battlerite
Black Desert
Brawlout
Chess Ultra
Conan Exiles
Crackdown 3
Dark and Light
The Darwin Project
Dead Rising 4
Deep Rock Galactic
Dishonored 2
Dovetail Games Euro Fishing
Doom
Dragon Ball Fighter Z
Dunk Lords
The Elder Scrolls Online
Everspace
Fable Fortune
Fallout 4
Farming Simulator 17
Final Fantasy XV
For Honor
Forza Horizon 3
Forza Motorsport 7
Gears of War 4
Ghost Recon Wildlands
Halo Wars 2
Hello Neighbor
Hitman
Homefront: The Revolution
Injustice 2
Killer Instinct
Killing Floor 2
The Last Night
Madden NFL 18
Mantis Burn Racing
Metro Exodus
Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Minecraft
Minion Masters: Forced to Duel
Need for Speed Payback
Observer
Ooblets
Ori and the Will of the Wisps
Osiris: New Dawn
Outlast 2
Paladins
Path of Exile
PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds
Portal Knights
Raiders of the Broken Planet
ReCore
Resident Evil 7
Rime
Riverbond
Robocraft Infinity
Rocket League
Sea of Thieves
Shift
Skyrim: Special Edition
Slime Rancher
State of Decay 2
Strange Brigade
Super Lucky’s Tale
Superhot
Surviving Mars
The Surge
Titanfall 2
Unruly Heroes
Warhammer: Vermintide
We Happy Few
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
World of Tanks

We would include games like Call of Duty: WWII, Code Vein, Destiny 2, Far Cry 5 and Star Wars: Battlefront II but the developers haven’t revealed details about the resolution. Given the fact that even a game like The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt can run at 4K on Xbox One X, Call of Duty: WWII, Destiny 2 and others should also run at 4K on the console. It’s surprising how in a day Microsoft has over 60 confirmed 4K games for Xbox One X. If we go with some of the rumored titles, then that number approaches 100. The Xbox One X is definitely the ultimate console and absolutely blows Sony’s attempt away!

Monkey Man wrote:(Here’s a list of games that run at 4K on Xbox One X)

Albear wrote:I wonder at what frame rate though.

Monkey Man wrote:

Here’s a list of games that run at 4K on Xbox One X

Yesterday, Microsoft revealed the Xbox One X, the most powerful console ever created. Since its launch, the PlayStation 4 Pro has struggled to reach the 4K resolution with only a handful of titles supporting it on Sony’s console. However, Microsoft blew expectations out of the water when they announced dozens of 4K games for Project Scorpio…we mean Xbox One X. Here’s a list of all games that we know are going to be 4K. From our understanding, the games mentioned below—barring any changes—will run at 3840 by 2160 pixels (4K UHD) on Xbox One X.

*Huge list of games*

https://mspoweruser.com/heres-a-list-of ... box-one-x/

Not sure about all of them running at Native 4K but we shall see.